I would never presume to go to another forum and teach them like that. For example I'd be stupid to go to the Catholic forum and start teaching. Do we know the same God? Yes. Do we follow the same doctrine? No. And what happens when the person comes along (and there are denominations such) that don't believe the Holy Ghost is present today.
It would be smart to go to other forums and start teaching, particularly on the baptism of the Holy Spirit, with evidence of tongues, which they deny to their own hurt.
In the Bible, we see believers in the book of acts, and the apostles are speaking to them and asking about the Holy Spirit, and they are like, "We haven't even heard of the Holy Spirit."
Well, those people need to hear about the baptism of the Holy Spirit now more than ever.
When someone refuses to identify their faith it can only be for a few reasons ... for example ... one would be to move from forum to forum teaching ... which means it's one man's teaching. The Pentecostal as other denominations AS A WHOLE believe these things with a few minor differences. As for non-denomination ... well, they have their forum as well. And by sheer definition non-denom means non-Pentecostal.
See, no it doesn't. I have been baptized in the Holy Spirit with evidence of tongues for half my life now, am I not allowed to teach or to debate?
"I speak in tongues more than you all."
Second work of grace? LoL. More like infinite works of grace. Every time the Spirit moves it is a work of grace.
I preach the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and more importantly I preach Jesus Christ Crucified, because without Christ Crucified I am a dead man.
But the number 1 reason I identify myself as "non-denominational" is for just this reason. I'm tired of being labeled by what a denomination does or does not teach, or being told that I have to sign a statement of faith to be allowed to teach somewhere, then getting banned or censored over technicalities.
It so happens that I agree with everything in this particular forums official "forum specific guidelines" (at least the current version as of the time I'm writing this,) but the problem is, if I were to say, "I agree with that" and put an icon by my name or sign some sheet or whatever, and it's later changed with or without my knowledge, then It looks bad on me.
And just using Christian as your icon doesn't work, either. Everyone on the site clainming their denomination is Christian. Everyone who believes in Christ and walks to the best of their ability is a Christian. So if they can teach hear ... just open the door ... or better yet, remove it. I don't mean to be sarcastic. I'm just trying to make my case. I was baptized in the Assembly of God church. It's Pentecostal. Why wouldn't I feel this way. For a year this forum has graciously welcomed all. It was never a problem in here until someone wanted it their way according to no one's rules but their own.
I was first baptized in the ticfaw river, and I was too young to even know what a denomination was, and thank God for that, but I was definitely already born again by then. I don't think it matters where someone was baptized. Whether in a ditch, or in a river, whether in a hole in the wall church, or in the biggest, holiest church of them all. "Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel..."
I absolutely believe the right thing to teach in this forum should be the same right afforded the Pentecostal church. Not any pastor can walk in there and just start teaching. If we aren't going to abide by the faith and what it represents ... why even bother.
What faith are you talking about?
Are you talking about "the faith" of Jesus Christ?
or are you talking about "the faith" in a man made creed or denomination?
Very subtle indeed.
We say, "a man is justified by faith, without the works of the law," yet we turn around and slap a few laws of our own on them.
"Jump through two hoops and over a hurdle, and by the way, if you slip up and sin, you're disqualified for two years..."
when "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
and "Let him that is without sin cast the first stone."
Do you know that the Azusa revival, where the Baptism of the Holy Spirit was first restored in modern times, looked absolutely nothing like any of the "pentecostal" or "apostolic" churches today? In fact, that was exactly what they were getting away from: denomination creeds. They began to read the book of acts, and 1 corinthians, and simply seek God for it.
Frank Bartleman, one of the pastors, later wrote the book "Azusa Street", in which he stated, "the biggest mistake they made was putting a name on the building," or words to that effect. Though that happened several years after the fact. Why? Because it turned "pentecost" back into just another denomination.
Now, once again, we aren't allowed to preach in church because you have to go through so much red tape before anyone will allow you to do anything, that is, except pay tithe and offering, those are always welcome.
But if a person wants to do anything besides sit on a pew and pay tithe and offering, they are expected to go to bible colleges for years on end, and sign their name to all sorts of oaths to be bound by to denominations and individual congregations. Then, if the church or denomination don't recognize the bible college/seminary or other ordaining body, then they aren't going to let you do anything anyway.
"...them that were entering in ye hindered."
So just go on from here ... it was my mistake
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