Fresh from his pardon, G. Flynn retweets call for Trump to declare Martial Law

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Anyway, this too is quite fascinating.

It appears martial law only applies to the national guard, but the president can declare it at a whim, although obviously it's the side benefits that Trump would be looking for:

While no precise definition of martial law exists, a precedent for it exists wherein, “certain civil liberties may be suspended, such as the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, freedom of association, and freedom of movement. And the writ of habeas corpus [the right to a trial before imprisonment] may be suspended,"

Apparently Lincoln did a whole bunch of this.
 
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If Lincoln were with us today, I would love to hear how he would respond to their use of his words in our situation which is in no way comparable to his.

The optimist in me sees this as a massive troll job.
I’d like to think he’d probably just chokeslam
them.
 
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What is "limited" martial law, as opposed to full blown martial law?

Maybe we can let these people define what they mean from their writing (underlining is mine):

"When the legislators, courts and/or Congress fail to do their duty under the 12th Amendment, you must be ready Mr. President to immediately declare a limited form of Martial Law, and temporarily suspend the Constitution and civilian control of these federal elections, for the sole purpose of having the military oversee a national re-vote. A vote that assures a fair election in every jurisdiction and reflects the true will of the people. Federal candidates only. Paper ballots. No computers. Hand-counted with both parties watching every vote. Only registered voters. Photo ID to prove residence. Conducted safely with everyone wearing masks and six feet apart, just like we did in Ohio. Only then can the winning candidate be accepted as legitimate by a true majority of We the People who must give our consent to be justly governed! Unfortunately we are at a point where we can only trust our military to do this because our corrupt political class and courts have proven their inability to act fairly and within the law."
 
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What's truly scary is the many commenters below who seem to agree fully with this ... and in some way or another say that God is totally for going to this extreme as well.

With so many coming forth testifying of the irregularities (or fraud, or illegalities, or whatever one chooses to call them), and with many millions of people saying the vote was compromised (or ??), what should be done? IF truly fraudulent, it seems an extreme act against the country. So, with what extreme should it be opposed? Currently it seems the Supreme Court is where it's headed???????
 
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Fresh from his pardon, G. Flynn retweets call for Trump to declare Martial Law

You don't say... who woulda thunk Trump might garner public outcry to support this action?

Evidence of Election Fraud

 
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Maybe we can let these people define what they mean from their writing (underlining is mine):

"When the legislators, courts and/or Congress fail to do their duty under the 12th Amendment, you must be ready Mr. President to immediately declare a limited form of Martial Law, and temporarily suspend the Constitution and civilian control of these federal elections, for the sole purpose of having the military oversee a national re-vote. A vote that assures a fair election in every jurisdiction and reflects the true will of the people. Federal candidates only. Paper ballots. No computers. Hand-counted with both parties watching every vote. Only registered voters. Photo ID to prove residence. Conducted safely with everyone wearing masks and six feet apart, just like we did in Ohio. Only then can the winning candidate be accepted as legitimate by a true majority of We the People who must give our consent to be justly governed! Unfortunately we are at a point where we can only trust our military to do this because our corrupt political class and courts have proven their inability to act fairly and within the law."

Wow, so their limited martial law includes the one thing the president cannot order with martial law, the military. It's quite frightening how much more I know about the US system than alot of people that live there.
 
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Fresh from his pardon, G. Flynn retweets call for Trump to declare Martial Law

You don't say... who woulda thunk Trump might garner public outcry to support this action?

What are your thoughts on the matter?
 
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It appears martial law only applies to the national guard, but the president can declare it at a whim, although obviously it's the side benefits that Trump would be looking for:

While no precise definition of martial law exists, a precedent for it exists wherein, “certain civil liberties may be suspended, such as the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, freedom of association, and freedom of movement. And the writ of habeas corpus [the right to a trial before imprisonment] may be suspended,"

Where'd you get your info, especially re: the National Guard statement?

I just did a quick read here and see military involvement:

Martial Law legal definition of Martial Law (thefreedictionary.com)
 
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Where'd you get your info, especially re: the National Guard statement?

I just did a quick read here and see military involvement:

Martial Law legal definition of Martial Law (thefreedictionary.com)

How the president could invoke martial law

Martial law does have limits. The Posse Comitatus Act, passed on June 18, 1878, prevented federal troops from supervising Confederate state elections during Reconstruction. Though initially it only applied to the Army, it has been amended to include the Defense Department and, of course, the other service branches. That act prevents troops from enforcing domestic law, preventing such actions as searching and seizing property or dispersing crowds. However, National Guard units, which take their direction from state governors, are exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act.
 
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Martial Law:
While no precise definition of martial law exists, a precedent for it exists wherein, “certain civil liberties may be suspended, such as the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures, freedom of association, and freedom of movement. And the writ of habeas corpus [the right to a trial before imprisonment] may be suspended,"

Sovereignty. To protect individual freedoms and rights. I do not ascribe to a globalist world viewpoint in the least.

Outstanding.
 
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