Free Will or God's Plan?

[BBAS 64]

if free will can carry us to hell, it can carry us to heaven if we choose Jesus, Praise God!

Only after God has done His work of Grace... to both will and to do.

 

[StillGods]

Only after God has done His work of Grace... to both will and to do.

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if you're not a calvinist you can choose who to follow of your own free will, if you are a calvinist you have no choice at all.

 

[timothyu]

With the odds of our existence being 1 in 100 million at the time of conception, 100 million being the number of sperm cells making the trip, if God had His eye on specifically us from the beginning, then there would be absolutely no need for those other 99,999,99 sperms

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

With the odds of our existence being 1 in 100 million at the time of conception, 100 million being the number of sperm cells making the trip, if God had His eye on specifically us from the beginning, then there would be absolutely no need for those other 99,999,99 sperms

I beg your pardon, but there are an infinite number of alternatives. Anyone could have been born in your place, limited only by God's imagination, which is no limit at all.

 

[timothyu]

Anyone could have been born in your place, limited only by God's imagination

Exactly meaning foreknowledge of 99,999,999 others is wasted.

 

[Sovereign Grace]

I think if God "loved" us enough to give us free will (free from predestination)...we would cease to exist. I think our continued existence is a continued act of creation, and every act of creation is an act of predestination. We live not by bread alone, but by the words that come from the mouth of God, now, even as in the beginning.

Seems like I heard a R.C. Sproul quote that someone posted on another forum that all God has to do to destroy us is give us more freedom. Look at the USA right now. In the 1960's, God was legislated out of schools, now kids have no idea what restroom to use, being taught evolution, there are multiple genders, &c. In 1993, Roe v. Wade was made law and the USA has murdered >60,000,000 babies and counting. In 2015, the SCOTUS violated its own constitution and made same sex marriage legal. You can't tell me that God's hand is removed from us as a country. They wanted freedom from religion(in reality it was them wanting freedom from God) and Brother, they got it. Look at the chaos now.

 

[Sovereign Grace]

God sent the good news of the Kingdom. We have the free will to accept or reject it. In doing so we either accept or reject the ways of man. Simple.

Free will is a myth. No one possesses a free will saved or lost. A person's will is tied to their nature. A fallen nature has a person whose will is bound in sin and Satan. The saved person's will is bound to Christ. Romans 6:16-20.

 

[Sovereign Grace]

Actually He is loving enough to give us total freedom and what we chose is up to us. However in the end like the prayer says He will get His way as His will will be done in earth as it is in heaven. Whether or not you are a part of that is on your head, not His.

Free Will:

==voluntary choice or decision
==freedom of humans to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or by divine intervention

Free will is a misnomer. The will is never free, as there is something that is always driving it to will that which is most pleasing. Something is always at the front of the will leading it.

 

[timothyu]

Free will is a misnomer. The will is never free, as there is something that is always driving it to will that which is most pleasing. Something is always at the front of the will leading it.

I wasn't talking about free will.

 

[WebersHome]

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I found out later that free will doesn't come with a right to privacy.

I also found out later that God's free will trumps our free will.
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