FOX news confirms that Trump disparaged veterans ...

[Fantine]

The cartoonists are having a field day.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

So, he's guilty of it even if he is not guilty of it. I'm not completely surprised that this finally came out.

If he admitted to it the only shocking thing would be that he had the integrity to come clean.

 

[Sparagmos]

In case you haven't figgered it out not all "leaks" are true....

The thing is, if it’s not true, why would Trump assume the info came from someone close to him? I’m just speculating. His complete meltdown on Twitter yesterday also points to this being true.

 

[Sparagmos]

Kelly, being the way more honorable of the two....

AND Trump is likely freaking out because he fears losing more military votes. Then he goes on a mean tirade against a 4 star general. SMART!

 

[Albion]

AND Trump is likely freaking out because he fears losing more military votes. Then he goes on a mean tirade against a 4 star general. SMART!

When you're the object of a big and pre-planned lie that's sprung in the middle of a campaign, you're going to be upset. It doesn't really matter who the candidate is.

 

[Sparagmos]

When you're the object of a big and pre-planned lie that's sprung in the middle of a campaign, you're going to be upset. It doesn't really matter who the candidate is.

Being upset is understandable. Bringing even more attention to the lie by tweeting about it 20 times in a day is just stupid. Successful leaders know that when the enemy ridicules you with something untrue, ignoring it is the best strategy. Giving it attention shows they “got” to you.

Isn’t there an illustrated “art of war for dummies“ they can give him?

 

[durangodawood]

Choked on a Big Mack?

A marble statue of himself fell on him during a hurricane at Mar-A-Lago.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

To be fair I have listened to several Republicans that voted for him and are sorry that they did. What they say is that they thought he was putting on a show, it wasn't how he really is and that he would be different when he was elected.

I didn't vote for Trump. But I thought he was putting on an act. Nobody could be that horrible or wrong.

 

[Albion]

Being upset is understandable. Bringing even more attention to the lie by tweeting about it 20 times in a day is just stupid.

That's possibly so, but as others have noted the candidate, any candidate, is on the horns of a dilemma when this happens to him. If he brushes it off and offers no defense, he is sure to be accused of verifying the charges since it will be said that "he couldn't refute what was charged."

Successful leaders know that when the enemy ridicules you with something untrue, ignoring it is the best strategy. Giving it attention shows they “got” to you.

Maybe with other kinds of leadership, but usually not in the case of election campaigns. However, I'm open to being proven wrong if you can think of a few cases in which some bombshell of an accusation was sprung on a presidential candidate and he did just brush it off and benefit from having taken that course of action.

 

[durangodawood]

How can this be a surprise after the way he treated McCain's military service for all to see?

 

[Sparagmos]

That's possibly so, but as others have noted the candidate, any candidate, is on the horns of a dilemma when this happens to him. If he brushes it off and offers no defense, he is sure to be accused of verifying the charges since it will be said that "he couldn't refute what was charged."

. You let others refute it. For instance, a bunch of ppl tweeted in his support. He didn’t have to retweet all of those.

Maybe with other kinds of leadership, but usually not in the case of election campaigns. However, I'm open to being proven wrong if you can think of a case where some bombshell of an accusation was sprung on a presidential candidate and he did just brush it off and benefit from having taken that course of action.

I’ll go as far as to say that the norm is for politicians to brush it off and let others come to their defense. You don’t see Joe Biden tweeting about not being sleepy. Obama sustained all kinds of attacks, the birther conspiracy being the most prominent, without stooping to indulge them. Hillary ignored all kinds of attacks.
Let’s be real - do you think that Trump gathered his smartest advisors to come up with the best strategy for responding to this accusation, and they chose the strategy of Trump tweetbombing us for 5 hours? That was no strategy, that was pure emotional impulse. Politics is war, and in war the lack of discipline and strategy will kill you.

 

[durangodawood]

Why was it safe for President Macron and Chancellor Merkel and an entire American delegation led by John Kelly? The picture from the cemetery with Macron and Merkel looks pretty dry.
Trump cancels Armistice cemetery visit 'due to bad weather'

Hairdo malfunctions are for losers.

 

[Albion]

. You let others refute it. For instance, a bunch of ppl tweeted in his support. He didn’t have to retweet all of those.

I agree with the part about tweets, but if the accused says nothing significant in his own defense, he usually is still subject to being thought guilty.

And then, look what the opposition does with those other people who spoke up and said something that did not confirm the charges--John Bolton, in this case, who only a month ago was hailed by the same folks as a paragon of truth, unimpeachable, and so on? You know.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

When you're the object of a big and pre-planned lie that's sprung in the middle of a campaign, you're going to be upset. It doesn't really matter who the candidate is.

We’ve established that it’s a lie? Do you have a link to that evidence? I have a few friends reposting this story, but since you’re saying that it’s in fact lies, I’ll have to let them know...

 

[Pommer]

Can this finally be his Elmer Gantry moment?

More like Lonesome Rhodes, from “A Face in the Crowd”.

 

[Albion]

We’ve established that it’s a lie?

The question was about the best course of action for a candidate who has been victimized by some sensationalist lie.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

The question was about the best course of action for a candidate who has been victimized by some sensationalist lie.

Oh, ok. So we haven’t established that any of this is a lie. Gotcha.

 

[Pommer]

When you're the object of a big and pre-planned lie that's sprung in the middle of a campaign, you're going to be upset. It doesn't really matter who the candidate is.

Well, at least it’s Americans who are “interfering with our elections” this time.

 

[Albion]

Oh, ok. So we haven’t established that any of this is a lie. Gotcha.

And we haven't established that any of it is true. There's no particular reason to think it is but there are several reasons for thinking it's not.

That's why the discussion turned to what a candidate is best off doing when he is attacked like this.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

And we haven't established that any of it is true. There's no particular reason to think it is but there are several reasons for thinking it's not.

That's why the discussion turned to what a candidate is best off doing when he is attacked like this.

Why is there no particular reason to think that it’s true?