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Found: Anti-Regulation Liberals

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Rion, Jun 25, 2012.

  1. Rion

    Rion An actual Liberal Supporter

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    Found: Anti-Regulation Liberals | Washington Free Beacon

    In the case of Penn. the existing regulations should be observed, not add new rules if there are laws already on the books to deal with it. Overall, I think it's a good idea to require these clinics to meet the same standards as hospitals, why shouldn't they?
     
  2. RedPaddy

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    Liberals are not opposed to regulations, just regulation on things they favor.
     
  3. Icewater

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    I think you're a little confused, it isn't liberals who claim to be ideologically opposed to regulation.
     
  4. RedPaddy

    RedPaddy Well-Known Member

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    did you even read the OP? lol
     
  5. rivertree

    rivertree Teach me to speak the truth in love.

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    Yes, and hopefully those laws will require more oversight for the abortion clinics.
     
  6. variant

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    Yes and conversely it shows some conservatives who are not against regulateing things like abortion clinics (which seems to be the only thing they actually want to be regulated).

    Oh, I forgot womens bodies, thats the other thing they want to regulate..

    [​IMG].
     
  7. Rion

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    How cute! Wanting the clinics to be safe, sanitary, and prepared in case of complications is now evil? :doh1:
     
  8. DaisyDay

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    Even that isn't true.

    Outpatient clinics are not hospitals. This is patently disingenuous as this bill applies to only one kind of clinic which provides a particular service. If this were genuinely about the health and safety of women, then the same regulations would apply to other types of clinics such as sports injury clinics which also do minor surgery.

    And do you think that the current regulations allow clinics to be unsafe and filthy? In case of complications, patients can currently be sent to emergency rooms of the local hospitals - what is the point of having the abortion doctor and only the abortion doctor admit the patient and continue the emergency care? No, this bill is clearly meant to limit abortions - perhaps sending women back to back alley operators, not known for sanitation or safety, or to self-abort.

    See: An Update on Tennessee’s HB 3808, Another Legislative Attempt to Limit Access to Abortion « Women's Health News
     
  9. Rion

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    I love how it's a "war on women" when the only ones endangering women are those claiming to be fighting for them. It's pretty obvious by their response that PP is only concerned with themselves, and their profitability, rather than helping women.
     
  10. IzzyPop

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    I love how it is not a war on women when only women's health is under attack like this. As mentioned above, if this was honestly a health issue then these regulations would cover all offices that provide outpatient services such as sports clinics and dentists. But when these bills single out abortion providers and then people lie about why they are being singled out it is hard for women to not feel attacked.
     
  11. Rion

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    They were "singled out" because of instances like in Penn. It's not uncommon for politicians to focus on a single aspect of an industry, when that aspect is getting all of the attention. Let a few people die from bad dentists in a single state and you'll get their congress on the bandwagon as well. Apparently "War against women" is the left's new favorite strawman.
     
  12. DaisyDay

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    Apparent the "War against women" is the right's new cause.
     
  13. Rion

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    Except it isn't happening. The left's attempt to demonize the right, rather than actually run on issues, has failed utterly.
     
  14. kermit

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    If that's truly the case, then it should be easy to show that those things have been a problem at abortion clinics. Please show us.

    Since I doubt that you can, that means that this regulation is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. In government terms, that means that the true intent is something else.
     
  15. Alexb

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    Could you remind us which side wants to take birth control and abortion away from women? Whether you agree or disagree with the issues, it is the right side of the isle wanting to tell women what to do with their bodies. I suppose one can call it demonization while another calls it a war. It all depends on which side one is on.
     
  16. DaisyDay

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    Yeah, the one's who want to regulate abortions out of legal, affordable existence.

    It's just the opposite. PP provides necessary health care for under-served women. In many areas, they are the only ones providing affordable birth control, mammograms, PAP smears and STD screening.
     
  17. DaisyDay

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    It is happening:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/20/opinion/sunday/the-attack-on-women-is-real.html

    Reproductive Health Laws Prove GOP 'War on Women' Is No Fiction | Debate Club | US News Opinion (health laws)

    Wisconsin's Repeal of Equal Pay Rights Adds to Battles for Women - The Daily Beast

    The Republican 'War on Women' Is Real - Chicago Tribune (re ultrasound bill)



    Women's health and welfare IS an issue to us women - and even to some men.
     
  18. RedPaddy

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    How many of the abortions PP has done have been necessary? If not a true number, how about a percentage, or maybe even a swag?
     
  19. Gumper

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    You tell her! Only necessary abortions should be allowed. You got to pay to play.
     
  20. kermit

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    Who decides what the criteria for "nessesary" is?

    Abortions are one of many services that PP provides.