Forms of Sola Fide

[JesusLovesOurLady]

Hello, I just want to ask what are the forms of Sola Fidei? I want to know how many forms there are, and what their biblical and logical justifications are for each of them.

 

[Tree of Life]

I'm not familiar with different forms of Sola Fide. I'm only familiar with the true doctrine and its misunderstandings.

 

[JesusLovesOurLady]

I'm not familiar with different forms of Sola Fide. I'm only familiar with the true doctrine and its misunderstandings.

What is the "true doctrine" and what are it's biblical and logical justifications?

 

[jax5434]

Hello, I just want to ask what are the forms of Sola Fidei? I want to know how many forms there are, and what their biblical and logical justifications are for each of them.

I also know of only one sola fide. There are however 5 other solas
Sola Fide, by faith alone.

• Sola Scriptura, by Scripture alone.

• Solus Christus, through Christ alone.

• Sola Gratia, by grace alone.

• Soli Deo Gloria, glory to God alone.

God Bless
Jax

 

[JesusLovesOurLady]

I've heard of at least two, Once Saved Always Saved and something called Lordship Salvation, but pretty sure there are various Calvinist and Arminian version of both.

Am I understanding this correctly?

 

[jax5434]

I've heard of at least two, Once Saved Always Saved and something called Lordship Salvation, but pretty sure there are various Calvinist and Arminian version of both.

Am I understanding this correctly?

Sola Fide is the belief that we are saved only by faith. Not by works or any combination faith and works. Both Calvinist and Arminians are Sola Fide (generally) but disagree on how that grace is applied by God.
Here is a link on Lordship Salvation What is lordship salvation?
OSAS is the belief that once a person is saved; they can never lose their salvation.

God Bless
Jax

 

[Albion]

I've heard of at least two, Once Saved Always Saved and something called Lordship Salvation, but pretty sure there are various Calvinist and Arminian version of both.

Am I understanding this correctly?

Sola Fide means that salvation is by Faith, not our good works. The "two" that you refer to here are not actually two; different opinions on how we might lose salvation or if that is possible, exactly what constitutes Faith, or exactly what happens to a person who has received saving Faith are merely related issues.

 

[klutedavid]

Hello, I just want to ask what are the forms of Sola Fidei? I want to know how many forms there are, and what their biblical and logical justifications are for each of them.

Hello JesusLovesOurLady

Sola fide (Latin: by faith alone), also known as justification by faith alone, is a Christian theological doctrine that distinguishes most Protestant denominations from the Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, and some parts of the Restoration Movement. (wikipedia)

Ephesians 2
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

Saved by the Grace of God but through the instrument of faith, as opposed to any justification by legal works, or any other works.

 

[JesusLovesOurLady]

Sola Fide is the belief that we are saved only by faith. Not by works or any combination faith and works. Both Calvinist and Arminians are Sola Fide (generally) but disagree on how that grace is applied by God.
Here is a link on Lordship Salvation What is lordship salvation?
OSAS is the belief that once a person is saved; they can never lose their salvation.

God Bless
Jax

So the disagreement on Salvation among Protestants is over Sola Gratia? Not Sola Fide?

 

[jax5434]

So the disagreement on Salvation among Protestants is over Sola Gratia? Not Sola Fide?

I would say not even that. Both Calvinists and Arminians agree we ae saved by Grace alone thru Faith alone. The difference would be that Calvinists believe that God applies that saving grace to only those that he chose before creation, while Arminians believe that that grace is applied the moment that you acknowledge Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
But again there are some in both camps I'm sure will disagree with me.

God Bless
Jax

 

[shakewell]

Hello, I just want to ask what are the forms of Sola Fidei? I want to know how many forms there are, and what their biblical and logical justifications are for each of them.

There's a saying that I and many others agree with: "faith alone saves; but the faith that saves is never alone". Meaning that good works don't cause or help cause salvation, but are the natural result of salvation.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

 

[EmSw]

There's a saying that I and many others agree with: "faith alone saves; but the faith that saves is never alone". Meaning that good works don't cause or help cause salvation, but are the natural result of salvation.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Are you saying if no good works are present with man, he is unsaved?

 

[klutedavid]

Are you saying if no good works are present with man, he is unsaved?

Hello EmSw.

I don't think that he said that.

 

[EmSw]

Hello EmSw.

I don't think that he said that.

Hello klute. A careful reading will reveal that is exactly what he said.

I will ask you, is a man saved without good works?

 

[klutedavid]

Hello klute. A careful reading will reveal that is exactly what he said.

I will ask you, is a man saved without good works?

Hello EmSw.

Of course, we are saved because we believe in the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ. By Grace through faith, meaning the transfer of the sinner to saint is a free gift, a result of God's kindness and mercy.

Good works are what we were saved to perform, yet the justification before God is always a free gift.

 

[EmSw]

Hello EmSw.

Of course, we are saved because we believe in the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ. By Grace through faith, meaning the transfer of the sinner to saint is a free gift, a result of God's kindness and mercy.

Good works are what we were saved to perform, yet the justification before God is always a free gift.

So if one doesn't perform good works, is he saved?

 

[jax5434]

Hello klute. A careful reading will reveal that is exactly what he said.

I will ask you, is a man saved without good works?

A person is saved by grace alone. But every saved person will have good works, not to earn anything but because good works are the natural by-product of faith.
God Bless
Jax

 

[klutedavid]

So if one doesn't perform good works, is he saved?

Hello EmSw.

Once again, we are saved by Grace and not by good works.

Is it possible for a Spirit led believer to be devoid of good works?

 

[EmSw]

Hello EmSw.

Once again, we are saved by Grace and not by good works.

Is it possible for a Spirit led believer to be devoid of good works?

YES! Many continue is evil works.

 

[EmSw]

A person is saved by grace alone. But every saved person will have good works, not to earn anything but because good works are the natural by-product of faith.
God Bless
Jax

Why have good works then? Do you believe a person void of good works is saved?