Forget about climate change, loss of soil and insects will doom us first.

[Goonie]

Insectageddon: farming is more catastrophic than climate breakdown | George Monbiot
Warning of 'ecological Armageddon' after dramatic plunge in insect numbers
With less than 60 years of harvests left in what remains of fertile soil, and a dramatic 75% decline in insects in some of the best protected nature reserves in Germany pointing towards the end of habitable life on earth.

Doommongering? Just stating the observed facts.

 

[tstor]

Doommongering? Just stating the observed facts.

I wasn't aware that atheists also had doomsday prophecies.

 

[AV1611VET]

I wasn't aware that atheists also had doomsday prophecies.

Yup.

(I think someone forgot to tell those scientists you don't "spring forward" until 2 a.m.)

 

[Goonie]

I wasn't aware that atheists also had doomsday prophecies.

Not a doomsday prophecy. It’s entirely possible to judge how much fertile soil is available, and that has been done. Now it is possible for a scientific breakthrough to comealong to improve fertility and prolong the lifespan, but 90% of agricultural science research at the moment is on maximising yealds, for maximum profit, whilst increasing soil deterioration.

This is observable science.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not a doomsday prophecy.

Just 'ecological Armageddon' ... right?

 

[Goonie]

Just 'ecological Armageddon' ... right?

It’s a projection based on observed evidence. If you have a finite amount of something, say fertile soil, and you are using it up at an ever increasing rate to feed an ever increasing population, at some point it will run out.

 

[AirPo]

Just 'ecological Armageddon' ... right?

No, just people using their brains. Sorta like driving slower when it's snowing.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

The irony being that I had to walk over a bed of moth caterpillars just to get here and be told that the flying insect population is dwindling. In a few days, I'll be driving through many miles of California farmland, where my car always comes out covered in bugs, and every bridge is coated in the adobe dwellings of those bug-eating birds. Yeah, those farms are really putting a dent in the bug population.

But, if you wish me to be afraid, then you've got a long line to wait in. I've got a crazy fat boy with a nuke. After that is a hole in a cancer-causing layer of gas that no one knows how it got there in the first place. After that is a swiftly depleting jungle in South America that seems to be forever running out of trees, without ever really running out. Then, I've got predictions from my childhood that summer temperatures would be 118 degrees Fahrenheit by now (my thermometer must be broken). There's some dude claiming that the end of the world came last September. Then there was Harold Camping. Then there was the 1998 prediction, and the Mayans, and the turn of the first millennium.

And you want me to worry about bugs.

 

[AV1611VET]

It’s a projection based on observed evidence. If you have a finite amount of something, say fertile soil, and you are using it up at an ever increasing rate to feed an ever increasing population, at some point it will run out.

Well China has four times our population, so they'll go before we do.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, just people using their brains. Sorta like driving slower when it's snowing.

Interesting how we're accused of "doomsday prophecies," but when academia gets involved, it gets plutoed to "ecological Armageddon," which is somehow not a doomsday prediction.

Science at its best.

 

[AirPo]

Interesting how we're accused of "doomsday prophecies," but when academia gets involved, it gets plutoed to "ecological Armageddon," which is somehow not a doomsday prediction.

Science at its best.

Interesting that's not at all what happened.

 

[AV1611VET]

And you want me to worry about bugs.

When I was a kid, I made the mistake of going to see The Hellstrom Chronicle, which is basically the exact opposite of this thread.

If everything scientists say would have come to pass, earth would look like the moon by now.

Evidently the teachings of Thomas Malthus has somehow gone silent in the halls of academia.

That way they can scare the Y2K out of us with "ecological disasters".

 

[Goonie]

When I was a kid, I made the mistake of going to see The Hellstrom Chronicle, which is basically the exact opposite of this thread.

If everything scientists say would have come to pass, earth would look like the moon by now.

Evidently the teachings of Thomas Malthus has somehow gone silent in the halls of academia.

That way they can scare the Y2K out of us with "ecological disasters".

Malthus is taught in regard to the history of science. The thing is he never took account of developments in technology and agriculture.

The ecological disasters are being observed in the here and now.

 

[AV1611VET]

The ecological disasters are being observed in the here and now.

And according to Malthus, nature will find a way to compensate for any 'ecological Armageddon' she throws at herself.

Have you ever met someone who cuts himself?

Your mother nature is like that person.

 

[HitchSlap]

Not a doomsday prophecy. It’s entirely possible to judge how much fertile soil is available, and that has been done. Now it is possible for a scientific breakthrough to comealong to improve fertility and prolong the lifespan, but 90% of agricultural science research at the moment is on maximising yealds, for maximum profit, whilst increasing soil deterioration.

This is observable science.

I'm not surprised in the least that your typical Christian would be so confused with mythical biblical prophecies, and solid science.

Meh.

 

[juvenissun]

Insectageddon: farming is more catastrophic than climate breakdown | George Monbiot
Warning of 'ecological Armageddon' after dramatic plunge in insect numbers
With less than 60 years of harvests left in what remains of fertile soil, and a dramatic 75% decline in insects in some of the best protected nature reserves in Germany pointing towards the end of habitable life on earth.

Doommongering? Just stating the observed facts.

I don't know about the insects. But the soil part is a sheer nonsense and an ignorant lie.

 

[Strathos]

I don't know about the insects. But the soil part is a sheer nonsense and an ignorant lie.

Can you elaborate on this? I am not an expert on the subject.

 

[Goonie]

I don't know about the insects. But the soil part is a sheer nonsense and an ignorant lie.

Evidence? Mine comes from the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation.

 

[juvenissun]

Can you elaborate on this? I am not an expert on the subject.

Fertile soil WILL NOT be significantly reduced in human era. I am not even sure it would be reduced or not.

 

[Goonie]

Fertile soil WILL NOT be significantly reduced in human era. I am not even sure it would be reduced or not.

Evidence, the science says otherwise. Denying it in capital letters is not a valid argument.