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For the Conservatives: There is no “conservative" case to be made for Harris, so let me put that obtuse idea to rest

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Yep.

But, your lack of an answer does tell me something. Care to elaborate on that?

-- A2SG, be nice to know....
What does it tell you?
 
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That you don't want to answer the question.

-- A2SG, we'll have to speculate on the reasons why....
Funny, since I’ve already addressed this with you. Care to revise your assessment?
 
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Funny, since I’ve already addressed this with you.
You did? Wow, did I miss a post or something?

Care to revise your assessment?
Not yet, but we'll see what happens if new information comes to light.

-- A2SG, assessments get revised all the time....
 
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Wait a minute.....

Did you mean to say it's possible to disagree with a candidate on some things, or even disapprove of him for some things, but still vote for him anyway? And in doing, still be able to call yourself whatever you want to?

Because that contradicts what you said in the OP.

So you can see why I asked the question you're still avoiding answering.

-- A2SG, thought I forgot, didn't ya?
 
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Wait a minute.....

Did you mean to say it's possible to disagree with a candidate on some things, or even disapprove of him for some things, but still vote for him anyway? And in doing, still be able to call yourself whatever you want to?

Because that contradicts what you said in the OP.

So you can see why I asked the question you're still avoiding answering.

-- A2SG, thought I forgot, didn't ya?
Remember when I said I doubt it? Yeah. Good times.
 
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Remember when I said I doubt it? Yeah. Good times.
Remember when you continued to avoid answering the question? Yeah, I do too.

-- A2SG, you're not giving me any reason to reevaluate my assessment, you know....
 
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Remember when you continued to avoid answering the question? Yeah, I do too.

-- A2SG, you're not giving me any reason to reevaluate my assessment, you know....
I have already addressed this.
 
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It's a fallacy, in my opinion, to look at Federal Government budgets and talk about them based only who was the POTUS at the time. For example, who was the majority party in the House of Representatives during the Clinton and Obama years when annual deficits were lowered?

Except that if it was a fallacy, we'd have examples of a Republican President cutting deficits, particularly with a Republican Congress. Instead, Republican Presidents still have increased the deficit (to include Trump) when both the House and the Senate were Republican controlled.

To me, this is a great argument that directly contradicts the OP; that it can actually make sense for a Conservative to vote Democrat for President, particularly if they are concerned about the deficit. Republicans (the party as a whole) only appear to care about deficit spending when a Democrat is in office. And if you care about deficits, it is a great reason to vote against Trump -- who was close to doubling deficit spending annually even before COVID (from half a trillion to a trillion), in what he claimed was "the best economy ever" and at a time that we should be reducing debt.
 
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That’s like saying that I don’t want Freddy Kruger for president, so I will vote for Hannibal Lecter instead.
Sot that's why Trump was referencing him so much.
 
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True. Their convictions at that point are concerned with maintaining an ever farther left leaning status quo
Weird how different the far right claims about what voters' motivations are differs from what actual voters here are saying their motivations are.
 
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The first term of the Trump administration was leaps and bounds superior to the first term of the Joe Biden and the Kamala Harris administration.
I guess we'll have to wait and see if Biden also conspires to have fake electors sent after he doesn't win the election to be sure.
 
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The point I believe Hammster was trying to make, though I think they did a poor job making it due to being unnecessarily argumentative, is that since you don't (as far as I know) identify as a conservative or claim to vote for candidates from a conservative standpoint, you saying you plan to vote for Harris isn't really an argument against his point, the claim being advanced that was while it's understandable for a conservative to not vote for Donald Trump and instead vote third party or not vote at all, it's incoherent for a conservative to vote for Kamala Harris.
If a conservative votes conservative in every other contest on the ballot, and only votes for Harris because he feels Trump is too great a threat to the Constitution, is that incoherent? I'll agree that there is no conservative case that can be made for Harris. Sometimes one should put the country as a whole above the party or the political path. Trump is an anomaly, and he should be treated as such.
 
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