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For many come in His name, saying "I am Christ" and shall deceive many...

Discussion in 'Exposition & Bible Study' started by orbiter, Jun 3, 2017.

  1. orbiter

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    Peace to those who may read.

    The good news is being hid from the minds of those who are preaching themselves (who come in their own name …in their own authority…preaching for pay in order to get their earthly needs met: what to eat, drink and what to wear).

    They preach for doctrines the commandments of men as they come forth to deceive us and cause divisions among us as they serve their own belly rather than Christ Jesus our Lord . Their teachings and commandments of men are contrary to us getting along with one another. This is a very profitable situation for them…for us to be divided and not united together in the name of Christ.

    2 Corinthians 4:1-11 KJV
    (1) Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
    (2) But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.


    The good news of the life of Jesus (that is to be made manifest in our mortal flesh giving us His eternal life in this earth) is hid to those that are “lost”...that is, PERISHING from off this earth.

    (3) But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

    The Light of the glorious good news of Christ is not shining in them nor is it shining in the hearts of any that are being deceived by them and sitting together with them in their churches. The "god" of this age is their belly which they are serving in order to feed it with the earthly necessities. They can not understand the good news (gospel) because of this. The shepherds are only literally feeding themselves and not the flock with the good news.

    (4) In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    The truly sent (apostle = sent) of the Lord works with his own hands to support his own needs (Paul was a tentmaker….Jesus was a “carpenter”...one who works with his hands) rather than come forth to preach themselves in order to get gain from those they preach to…serving their own belly.

    The falsely sent (false apostle) is not following the commandment of the Lord who sent His disciples out to “freely give” as they have freely received. The falsely sent are not sent in His authority but come in their own authority (preaching themselves). Yet, MANY receive those who falsely claim that they come in His name (authority).

    They preach things that they ought not be (the teachings and commandments of men) for money’s sake and have NO UNDERSTANDING of the Scriptures that they are wresting to their own mortal destruction from this earth. They are taking many down to the grave with them because many see themselves as “wise” and receive those who come in their own authority and many see themselves as “wise” in the keeping of their teachings and commandments.

    (5) For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
    (6) For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
    (7) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
    (8) We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
    (9) Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;


    The falsely sent (false apostles) who come in their own authority come to take away the keeping of the “daily sacrifice” out of our lives so that the life of Jesus is never made manifest in this earth.

    If we keep the “daily” sacrifice….ALWAYS bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus…then the LIFE also of Jesus should be made manifest (SHINE) in our mortal flesh….our mortal body. We keep His death so that His life is made manifest in this earth….the eternal life of our Lord appears in our mortal flesh. The antichrist denies this and prevents His life appearing as he comes to take away the keeping of the daily sacrifice out of our lives. This good news is hid to those who are perishing from this earth as their mortal flesh is not being saved.

    (10) Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
    (11) For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.


    Satan (and his ministers) uses schemes in order to deceive us into the worship of him and keep the life of Jesus from ever appearing in this earth. The antichrist denies that Jesus IS COMING (present, continuous tense) in the mortal flesh….our mortal flesh.

    One of those devices used is the “handwriting of ordinances” (Greek: dogmas)….that is, the handwriting of church dogmas that the church scribes engraved for us to keep and be brought into their bondage where NO FLESH is being saved.

    The false prophets who promote them to us want us to go and keep company with them and serve and worship their dogmas because that is how they can extract money from us….making a gain of us….making merchandise of us.

    Their teachings and commandments cause divisions among us and are used to judge others who do not keep them. They set aside the commandment of God that was delivered to us to keep (to have love for one another) in order to keep the doctrines and commandments of men.

    MANY find fault in others who do not keep their “traditions”…that is, “transmissions”...of their church “elders”. The Pharisees found fault in the disciples of the Lord as they did not keep their elders’ tradition of the washing of their hands before they ate bread.

    Mark 7:1-9 KJV
    (1) Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
    (2) And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
    (3) For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.


    They “received to hold” their traditions…that is, their fathers gave them their engraved transmissions for them to keep and use them to judge others (finding fault in others). we are not redeemed with the traditions of the church elders and scribes.

    (4) And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.

    The church “scribes” are those who have graven their teachings and commandments for us to keep and cause us to find fault in others who do not keep them. They are contrary to us. They are against us as we cannot get along with each other with the keeping of them as they are used as a basis to find fault in others…speaking evil of those who do not keep them.

    (5) Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
    (6) He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.


    In vain do they worship God, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Going to “church” and keeping the teachings and commandments of men is in vain for NO FLESH is being saved among them.

    (7) Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    MANY lay aside the commandment of God (to have love for one another) in order to hold the transmission of men.

    (8) For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
    (9) And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.


    Satan’s ministers come along posing as ministers of righteousness as they preach the doctrines and commandments of men for us to keep instead of keeping the Holy Commandment to have love for one another that was delivered to us to keep from the Lord. They deceive us into turning from the Holy Commandment that was delivered to us to keep and be brought into bondage where we are entangled again in the envy and strife.

    Their end is according to their works as they perish to the grave without the life of Jesus being made manifest in their mortal flesh which would give them His eternal life in this earth. Their works of so-called righteousness (the keeping of their teachings and commandments) do not save the mortal flesh of anyone as all are perishing away with the using of them.

    2 Corinthians 11:13-15 KJV
    (13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
    (14) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    (15) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.


    The commandments and teachings of men are not saving the mortal flesh of anyone for “all are to perish with the using” of them.

    Why are we subject to their ordinances that are not saving the flesh of anyone? The “unlearned and unstable” are wresting the Scriptures to their own destruction…the destruction of their mortal flesh. Let us not be led astray with the wicked in their destruction of their mortal flesh...perishing away to the grave without the life of Jesus being made manifest.

    Colossians 2:18-23 KJV
    (18) Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
    (19) And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
    (20) Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
    (21) (Touch not; taste not; handle not;
    (22) Which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men?
    (23) Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.


    BEWARE lest any man “spoil” (lead you away as prey, merchandise) through his “wisdom” and vain deceit …after the tradition (transmission) of men….after the rudiments of the world and not after Christ.

    Colossians 2:8-23 KJV
    (8) Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
    (9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
    (10) And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
    (11) In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
    (12) Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.


    We were dead in our churches but our Lord forgives us of all of our trespasses…

    (13) And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

    …as He blots out the handwriting of church dogmas which are against us and are contrary to us. He takes it out of the way…nailing it to His cross. He forgives us for doing these things in our ignorance and we depart from those who once deceived us into the keeping of them. He spoils the "principalities and powers". We depart from them openly in Christ who gives us the victory over their "powers" to keep us in their churches.

    (14) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
    (15) And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
    (16) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
    (17) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


    Let no man beguile you of your reward….His appearing life in the mortal flesh…by those teachings and commandments of men of which men are vainly puffed up in their own fleshly mind. They do not have the mind of Christ but have a fleshly mind that wrests the Scriptures to their own destruction.

    (18) Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
    (19) And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.


    The world has rules, laws, ordinances because they do not have the mind of Christ. They do not serve our God by having love for one another. Why should we who serve our God (who is our King) serve the church ordinances of men that are patterned after the rudiments of the world?

    (20) Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
    (21) (Touch not; taste not; handle not;


    ALL are to PERISH with the using of the commandments and doctrines of men because they set aside the commandment of God (to have love for one another) in order to serve and worship the ordinances of men…..using them to judge others which is not having love for others.

    (22) Which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men?
    (23) Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.


    MANY falsely sent men have come saying that they come supposedly in His name (authority). They do not come in the Lord’s authority as servants (who work with their own hands to support their own earthly necessities) but come in their own authority (preaching themselves) and serve themselves and MANY receive them.

    John 5:43 KJV
    (43) I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

    If another (the super apostle) comes in his own name preaching another Jesus…preaching another gospel, many bear with him. They do not come with them doctrine of Christ (the teaching: have love for one another as He loved us and gave Himself for us) as they preach the doctrines and commandments of men for money’s sake.

    2 Corinthians 11:1-14 KJV
    (1) Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.
    (2) For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
    (3) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
    (4) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
    (5) For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.

    (6) But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.


    The falsely sent (false apostle) are deceitful workers as they do not preach the good news of God freely. They do not "freely give" as directed by the Lord and Master. They do not come in His authority as they do not follow His command to preach the gospel of God freely.

    (7) Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?

    Paul thought it was robbery even for those brothers from Macedonia who came to help him out once when he was in need.

    (8) I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.
    (9) And when I was present with you, and wanted, I was chargeable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied: and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself.
    (10) As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.
    (11) Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.
    (12) But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.


    The falsely sent (false apostles) say they come in the name of the Lord . They transform themselves into the apostles (sent) of Christ by SAYING that they come in His authority. They do not come in His authority but their own.

    (13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
    (14) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.


    There are MANY who are falsely sent as they say that they come in His name….His authority…and deceive MANY.

    They transform themselves into the apostles (sent) of Christ by saying that they come in His name (I am Christ). MANY come in their own authority and not His…and MANY receive them. MANY give them a “crown” to wear as they let men exalt themselves over them and let men take of them and they are not getting fed with the Word of Truth and are suffering from “famine”.

    Matthew 24:3-5 KJV
    (3) And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
    (4) And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
    (5) For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.


    The false prophet (who falsely prophesies “peace” where there is truly no peace in their false gathering) serves the “church”…the handwriting of church ordinances ….where the people gather together supposedly in His name (false gatherings supposedly in His name). The judgment of God is upon them (the four horses of Revelation) as they are gathered together not for the good but for the worse. Many are sick and dying in the churches of men where they are gathered together not for the good.

    The false gatherings….the denominations of men…are really gatherings that serve the dragon who uses the handwriting of their church dogmas which are patterned after the rudiments of the world (rising up out of the “sea”) to get people to set aside the commandment of God and therefore not serve the Creator who is blessed forever. They serve the “creature”…the ordinance of men…more than the Creator.

    The false prophet has his authority based on that handwriting of ordinances. The false prophet rises up out of the earth because he is earthly-minded… “serving” the church in order to get his earthly needs met….yet he is only serving himself as he has no understanding of the good news of Christ and is not preaching it to those who listen to him.

    They all preform outward signs (for example: literal water baptism) of supposedly inward realities in order to deceive us into keeping company with them as they perish from this earth with the keeping of their teachings and commandments.

    They bewitch us with “great signs”…. pictures of Christ crucified…a representation…performed before our very literal eyes (literal water baptism). Having began in the Spirit, are we now made complete in the flesh…the performing of literal water baptism? It is used as a gateway sign to fascinate us into keeping company with them in their bondage of the keeping of the teachings and commandments of men. Who God has cleansed with the giving of His Spirit from heaven, let no man call unclean.

    That is all that they have to show this world…outward signs (behold, He is out in the desert) of supposed inward realities (behold He is in the secret chamber).

    They perform wonders…speaking great swelling words having men’s admiration (wonders) in mind for their own gain. Their voice is used to deceive us.

    Matthew 24:23-27 KJV
    (23) Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
    (24) For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    (25) Behold, I have told you before.
    (26) Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.


    But what is the real sign of the coming of the Son of man?

    When we truly hear His voice, the light comes out of the “east” (meaning “RISING OF LIGHT”) and shines unto the “west” (the setting of the sun).

    (27) For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    When we hear His voice from heaven, we have a more sure word of prophecy within our very own hearts that says “this is my Son, hear Him”. The disciples heard the voice from heaven…but we have a more sure word as we hear His voice and have the witness of God about His Son (whom we are to listen to) within our very own hearts as He commands the Light to shine in the darkness of our own hearts.

    2 Peter 1:17-21 KJV
    (17) For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
    (18) And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.


    When we hear His voice, the light shines in a dark place (our very own hearts). He is the “bright and morning star” arising in our hearts. The sign of coming of the Son of man who is in heaven arises in our hearts when we hear the Son speaking to us from heaven. A false prophet does not have the “bright and morning star” but only has outward signs and words of flattery in order to deceive us.

    (19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

    The Son opens up the Scriptures to our minds in the Spirit. He sends out His disciples (the “strangers”...the “least brothers of His”) to speak His words to our hearing ears as they are moved by the Spirit.

    (20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
    (21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


    He sends out His disciples in His name…His authority… to speak His words of Truth in the Spirit.

    Luke 10:16 KJV
    (16) He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.


    He sends His messenger out to testify of these things to the churches…and He is the “bright and morning star” arising in our very own hearts when we hear His voice in the Spirit…the water of life. We receive the testimony of men sent out by Him to speak what they hear the Spirit saying but the witness of God (this is my Son, hear Him) is within our very hearts as the "bright and morning star" arises there.

    Revelation 22:16-17 KJV
    (16) I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
    (17) And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.


    Blessed is He that comes in the authority of the LORD.

    Psalms 118:26-29 KJV
    (26) Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.

    God shows His light…within our very hearts…and we are to sacrifice the praises with our lips… thanking Him and praising Him.

    (27) God is the LORD, which hath shewed us light: bind the sacrifice with cords, even unto the horns of the altar.
    (28) Thou art my God, and I will praise thee: thou art my God, I will exalt thee.
    (29) O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever
    .

    The coming of the Son of man will be evident within our very own hearts…and His life shall be made manifest (shine) in our outer mortal flesh in due time so that this dark and dying world may see His appearing life (the light). His coming is very apparent within our hearts and to this world.

    The light shall shine in this dark world as they shall see the living proof that Jesus IS ALIVE as we are alive in this world being blessed with His eternal life in this life.

    The light comes out of the “east”..the rising of light within our very own hearts…and will shine to the “west”…the darkness of this world that has no understanding (the west where the sun has set). We are to hold forth Word of life in this dark world in which we shall shine as the stars of heaven.

    Yet, the false prophets and false gatherings supposedly in His name only have outward “signs” of inward realities as they perish from off this earth. There is nothing else made visible with them as the life of Jesus is not made manifest in the flesh of any of them.

    NO FLESH is being saved in any “church” of man as MANY receive those who are coming in their own authority and have no understanding of the good news of Christ whose life is to appear in our outer mortal flesh for others to see and believe.

    Those who rejoice now in their church things and deceptions shall have their joy turn to darkness…deep gloom. Their “sun” shall be darkened as their joy turns to gloom. They will be shaken as many shall hear and believe the Word of Truth and depart from their churches in “clouds”. They will see the evidence of the coming of the Son of man in the true believers who will depart from their gatherings in “clouds” of people. This will cause them to mourn and speak evil of those who depart.

    Matthew 24:29-31 KJV
    (29) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    At that time, the sign of the Son of man who is in heaven appears in the hearts of those who hear His voice. They will believe in the light and become children of the light while they have the light. They will depart from their “churches” in “clouds” of people.

    But the “tribes of the earth” (who will not deaden their tongues which dwell on earthly things in their envy and strife) shall mourn what they hear as the things that they enjoy now will depart. Their joy shall be turned to sorrow. They will not hear and believe and they will mourn it as many will hear and believe and depart from their gatherings. There will be weeping…mourning… and gnashing of teeth…rage as they will persecute those who depart for the Son of man’s sake and the good news.

    (30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    The Son of man in heaven sends His “angels”…His words of spirit spoken by His disciples….and they shall gather together His elect from EVERY WIND (the four winds) of doctrine that men are preaching deceptively as they handle the Word of God deceitfully and retailing it. Men shall hear and those who believe will be gathered out of all of the churches of men for the Word of truth.

    (31) And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    The sun of righteousness shall arise with healing in his wings. We shall go forth from the churches of men….rejoicing as calves released from the stalls of men. Our faith in Him shall heal us.

    Malachi 4:2-3 KJV
    (2) But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
    (3) And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
     
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  2. ByTheSpirit

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    Yikes... that would take me an hour to read all that. Might want to break it down into easier to digest chunks next time...
     
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  4. orbiter

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    We are to set our affection on things above and not on things on the earth. Peace, joy, love, patience, gentleness, etc…..all things which are of above in Heaven where God’s will is ALWAYS done. We don’t have to leave this earth to be citizens of Heaven when we do those things from above.

    But those who “dwell on the earth” are those who live according to the earthly wisdom: envy, strife, wrath, covetousness etc.

    Colossians 3:1-7 KJV
    (1) If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
    (2) Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.

    (3) For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
    (4) When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
    (5) Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
    (6) For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
    (7) In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.


    Those who “dwell on the earth” are being deceived by false prophets (who say they come in the authority of Christ) who arise from the “earth” (as they are minding only the earthly things) as those who “dwell on the earth” become weary in well doing.

    The false prophets falsely prophesy “peace, peace” to those who are forgetful to have brotherly love (those who fall “asleep”) and are deceived into joining the churches of the false prophets where NO FLESH is being saved.

    There is no peace in their churches. What we find is the judgment of God upon them: the sword, famine, and sickness/dying. NO FLESH is being saved as the life of Jesus is being prevented from appearing in their congregations. We must not be attached to the “dead body” of their gatherings or we perish along with them.

    Jeremiah 14:11-16 KJV
    (11) Then said the LORD unto me, Pray not for this people for their good.
    (12) When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.


    The false prophets falsely prophesy “peace” in their midst when there is none.

    (13) Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place.
    (14) Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.


    The “son of perdition”….the son of destruction…has been given over to destruction and those who join them are also perishing along with him in their gatherings.

    (15) Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.
    (16) And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them
    .

    It would have been better to not have known the Way of righteousness than after having known it and turn from the Holy Commandment (to have love for one another) which was given to us from the Lord to keep….to ALWAYS keep. The false prophets use great swelling words to deceive those (who become “weary” in well doing) who are just escaping the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

    2 Peter 2:18-22 KJV
    (18) For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
    (19) While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
    (20) For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
    (21) For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

    (22) But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.


    The spiritual “Amalek” (Amalek means “people who lick”) comes forth just as we are escaping from the pollutions of this world (Egypt) in order to deceive us into sitting together with them in their churches. They want us to turn from the Holy Commandment that was delivered unto us to keep.

    Deuteronomy 25:17-19 KJV
    (17) Remember what Amalek did unto thee by the way, when ye were come forth out of Egypt;

    They meet us by the Way of righteousness just as we are escaping the pollutions of the world (Egypt). They speak great, swelling words with the flattering tongue (“Amalek”= the people who lick…..the people who have a flattering tongue). When we become “faint and weary” in well doing, then they have the power to deceive us.

    (18) How he met thee by the way, and smote the hindmost of thee, even all that were feeble behind thee, when thou wast faint and weary; and he feared not God.
    (19) Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget it.


    The “Amalek” loves to have the preeminence among men. They love to be first…but their latter end is that they perish.

    Numbers 24:20 KJV
    (20) And when he looked on Amalek, he took up his parable, and said, Amalek was the first of the nations; but his latter end shall be that he perish for ever.


    Their end is destruction….destruction of their mortal bodies.

    Philippians 3:18-19 KJV
    (18) (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
    (19) Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)


    Their end shall be according to their works.

    2 Corinthians 11:13-15 KJV
    (13) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
    (14) And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    (15) Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.



    Let us not be “weary” in well doing…for in due season we shall reap His everlasting life in this earth.

    Galatians 6:7-9 KJV
    (7) Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
    (8) For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
    (9) And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.


    Those who “dwell on the earth” are easily deceived by the false prophet whose presence is in accordance to the working of Satan and uses all power and signs and lying wonders and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that PERISH from this earth because they do not receive the love of the truth so that they might be saved. If we love the Truth, we DO it.

    The mystery of iniquity is ALREADY at work in every church gathering. It takes one bad apple to spoil the whole group. NO FLESH is being saved in the churches of men as all are perishing because of the men who have crept in unawares while men “slept” . They use this power of darkness to deceive those who become forgetful to have love for one another. They become weary in well doing and are led astray.

    2 Thessalonians 2:7-12 KJV
    (7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
    (8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
    (9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
    (10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.


    The false prophets arise and preach “peace” in their churches where there is none. Instead, we find the judgment of God…the wrath of God…that comes upon the children of disobedience. There is NO PEACE in their gatherings. The wrath of God is revealed from heaven upon those who hold down the truth in their unrighteousness as many set aside the commandment of God to have love for one another in order to keep the teachings and commandments of men (as the churches fight among themselves over these things). The false prophet brings fire down from heaven in the sight of men. We must not sit together with them or we perish along with them.

    THE lie is the same one from the beginning that they falsely believe. There is no peace in judging another with the carnal commandments of men. We are not “gods”…judges for God….when we speak evil of another just because he does not follow our denomination’s teachings or commandments. We have NO PEACE when we are deceived into sitting together with those who are doing the same thing….who are taking pleasure in their unrighteousness. They heal the deadly wound by preaching “peace,peace” when there is no peace as the wrath of God comes upon the children of disobedience as they take pleasure in unrighteousness. They do not really believe in the truth for if they did, they would DO it. Believing is doing. Faith is active. Faith without good works (peace, joy, love, gentleness, etc) is DEAD.

    (11) And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    (12) That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


    Let us hear what the Spirit is saying and remember to let brotherly love continue. The wrath of man does not WORK the righteousness of God. The church in “Sardis”…meaning “red ones” (having wrath)….has a name that they live but is DEAD. Faith without good works (working the righteousness of God) is dead. Good works completes our faith.

    Revelation 3:1-6 KJV
    (1) And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.
    (2) Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.


    The Son of man comes when we least expect Him and we are to be found by Him behaving with the works of God’s righteousness which completes our faith in Him.

    (3) Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
    (4) Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.


    We must overcome our wrath. We must be slow to wrath and be swift to hear and slow to speak. He that overcomes shall be clothed in white raiment…that is, works of God’s righteousness: love, peace, joy, gentleness, kindness, etc. Some who become wrathful at what they hear will overcome that wrath and put on Christ at the hearing of the Spirit.

    (5) He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
    (6) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches
    .

    Do not let any man lead you astray (who is making merchandise of us) through his wisdom and vain deceit after the transmission of men….the doctrines and commandments of men.

    Colossians 2:8 KJV
    (8) Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    The false prophet deceives those who “dwell on the earth” and leads them astray into their churches where many are setting aside God’s commandment to keep the commandments and doctrines of men of which NO FLESH is being saved for all are perishing with the using of them.

    Colossians 2:20-23 KJV
    (20) Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
    (21) (Touch not; taste not; handle not;
    (22) Which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men?
    (23) Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.


    Let us stand fast in the liberty where Christ has made us free and not be entangled again with the yoke of bondage….the keeping of the teachings and commandments of men in the churches of fleshly-minded men.

    Galatians 5:1 KJV
    (1) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage
     
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    We are to contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints for certain men have crept into the churches “unawares”. These men are already present in the churches of men in accordance to the working of Satan and their function is to “take and destroy” those who do not receive the love of the Truth and be saved.

    These “natural brute beasts” are MADE to take and destroy (not made TO BE taken and destroyed… but their function is to do those things) those who do not always keep the Holy Commandment to have love for one another.

    These men are collectively the “son of perdition” as they themselves are being utterly destroyed (perishing in their mortal body from off this earth) in their own corruption as they take those who sit together with them down in their destruction. We MUST NOT sit together with them as this is the “fornication” (sitting together with them in their churches) that MANY are committing today.

    2 Peter 2:12-13 KJV
    (12) But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
    (13) And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;


    When men fall “asleep” to His commandment to have love for one another, the false prophets use this power of darkness (forgetfulness) to lead us astray away from the keeping of His DAILY sacrifice (ALWAYS keeping the dying of our Lord Jesus in the body so that His life shall be made manifest in our mortal flesh which would give us His eternal life in this earth).

    If we keep the “daily” sacrifice of our Lord (ALWAYS bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus), then the life of Jesus also shall be made manifest in our mortal body giving us His eternal life in this earth. Yet, the antichrist denies that Jesus is coming in the flesh…our mortal flesh…as they preach their covenant with death and their agreement with the grave when Jesus WAS DEAD and IS ALIVE NOW forever more. If He is alive now, we are to have His eternal, heavenly life now in this earth.

    2 Corinthians 4:10-11 KJV
    (10) Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
    (11) For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.


    If we become weary in well doing (falling “asleep” to His commandment to have love for one another), then “Judas” comes along to take His daily sacrifice out of our lives so that His life never appears.

    Matthew 26:43-50 KJV
    (43) And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy.
    (44) And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words.


    The Son of man (the appearing life of Jesus in our mortal flesh) is then betrayed into the hands of sinners who follow in the footsteps of Judas and come forth to take the life of Jesus from ever appearing in our mortal flesh as they take away the keeping of His daily sacrifice out of our lives.

    These men are preachers, church leaders, priests, reverends, pastors, etc, etc, etc. They want us to come sit together with them in their churches where NO FLESH is being saved as they set aside the commandment of God to have love for one another in order to keep the teachings and commandments of men who then use them to judge others with. We must flee from the “fornication”…the sitting together with them… or we are sinning against our own mortal body by doing so. The HOUR IS AT HAND where the Son of man is being betray into the hands of sinners who are preventing His life from appearing in our mortal flesh.

    (45) Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.

    We have a commandment to “RISE” and go from their churches where NO FLESH is being saved as those we sit together with are betraying the life of Jesus from ever appearing in our mortal flesh which would give us His eternal life in this earth. We are to awake to His righteousness and flee from them. We must flee from “fornication”…the sitting together with them in their judgment and destruction which is not slumbering.

    (46) Rise, let us be going: behold, he is at hand that doth betray me.

    A great MULTITUDE are following in the footsteps of Judas as preachers, priests, reverends , pastors, etc. They are mostly church leaders as they are from the “chief priest and elders of the people”. They come with “swords” as they come to cause divisions among us teaching things that cause us to trip into the grave as they deny the life of Jesus from ever appearing in those who listen to them.

    (47) And while he yet spake, lo, Judas, one of the twelve, came, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and elders of the people.

    They perform signs and wonders. They “kiss” with the flattering lips those they lead astray into their church bondage (“hold him fast”) where not flesh is being saved. Many perish with the using of the teachings and commandments of men as the life of Jesus is never made manifest in those who follow the false prophets down the broad way that leads to the grave.

    (48) Now he that betrayed him gave them a sign, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he: hold him fast.

    They come and want us to rejoice (“hail” = rejoice) as they flatter us with the flattering lips. They come to take away the keeping of His daily sacrifice out of our lives so that His immortal life never appears in this earth. They come and “lay hands on Jesus and take Him” out of our lives.

    (49) And forthwith he came to Jesus, and said, Hail, master; and kissed him.
    (50) And Jesus said unto him, Friend, wherefore art thou come? Then came they, and laid hands on Jesus, and took him.


    Those who follow in the footsteps of Judas come with a feigned kiss of the flattering of lips. Our “kiss”’ should be holy….unfeigned.

    Romans 16:16-20 KJV
    (16) Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you.

    Those who follow after the footsteps of Judas come with “swords”….as they cause division and offenses contrary to the teaching that we have learned. The doctrine of Christ is to have love for one another. But those who cause divisions want us to set aside the teaching of Christ in order to keep their erroneous teachings and commandments of men that they have wrested out of the Scriptures with their fleshly minds.

    (17) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

    They use the flattering lips (their good words and fair speeches) to deceive the hearts of the “simple”…those who have no understanding as they do not receive the love of the truth and be saved.

    (18) For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

    Instead, we must be wise unto that which is good and “simple” concerning evil.

    (19) For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
    (20) And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.


    Yet the “simple” (those who do not always keep His commandment) believe every word that the false prophet speaks.

    Proverbs 14:15 KJV
    (15) The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going.

    The “simple” believe the tongue that preaches strange doctrines (the “strange woman”) of men and go and sit together with them not knowing the dead are there and that her guests are in the depths of hell (the grave).

    We must not commit “fornication” by sitting together with them in their churches where NO FLESH is being saved as the life of Jesus is being prevented from ever appearing in their congregations. We become ONE FLESH with those who deceive us and are the son of destruction. We are then destroyed along with them when we sit together with them….thereby sinning against our own mortal body.

    Proverbs 9:13-18 KJV
    (13) A foolish woman is clamorous: she is simple, and knoweth nothing.
    (14) For she sitteth at the door of her house, on a seat in the high places of the city,
    (15) To call passengers who go right on their ways:
    (16) Whoso is simple, let him turn in hither: and as for him that wanteth understanding, she saith to him,
    (17) Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant.
    (18) But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.


    The “simple” have their life taken from them as they fall as prey to the flatting tongue that speaks good words and fair speeches (the “woman” with the attire of a harlot). The “woman” …the flattering tongue….hides the abominations which is hidden in the “hidden man of the heart”.

    Proverbs 7:7-27 KJV
    (7) And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding,
    (8) Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house,
    (9) In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night:
    (10) And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.
    (11) (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:
    (12) Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)


    The strange tongue of man “kisses” those who are “simple”. They come forth to "catch and destroy" us and use good words and fair speeches as their weapon to do so.

    (13) So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,

    The false prophets falsely prophesy “peace, peace” where there is none as those who sit together with the flattering tongue are being perishing from off this earth under the wrath of God.

    (14) I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.
    (15) Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee
    .

    Their teachings and commandments of men are patterned after the rudiments of the world (Egypt) and are used to keep us in bondage. The flattering tongue (the harlot) speaks good words and fair speeches in order for us to come and sit together with them in their churches and keep their doctrines and commandments of men that are not saving the mortal flesh of anyone.

    (16) I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt.
    (17) I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.
    (18) Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves
    .

    They deny that Jesus (the goodman) is coming in our mortal flesh. They put His coming at the day appointed when Jesus IS ALIVE NOW and so His life is to appear now in this earth in our mortal flesh which would give us His eternal life. NOW is the day of salvation. NOW is the acceptable time. The time is NOW and not when they say it is. NOW is the time!

    (19) For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:
    (20) He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.


    The flattering tongue of men speak “good words and fair speeches” in order to deceive the hearts of the simple.

    (21) With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.
    (22) He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks;
    (23) Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life.
    (24) Hearken unto me now therefore, O ye children, and attend to the words of my mouth
    .

    We must not go after them and depart from the narrow Way of righteousness that leads to His appearing life in our mortal flesh. If we and sit together with them, we are being led down the broad way to our own mortal destruction along with them. “She” has cast down MANY wounded. The flattering tongue as slain MANY.

    (25) Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths.
    (26) For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.
    (27) Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.


    The 2 witnesses (the law and the prophets) are “dead” when we do not fulfill them by doing unto others as we would have them do to us.

    Matthew 7:12-20 KJV
    (12) Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

    MANY are going down the broad way to the destruction of their mortal flesh from off this earth as the false prophets lead them astray from the narrow Way of righteousness as they use our own forgetfulness to do unto others as we would have them do unto us to deceive us with their flattering words.

    (13) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
    (14) Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


    The false prophets prophesy “peace” where there is none as the wrath of God comes upon them for their disobedience. They come posing as ministers of righteousness as they preach the teachings and commandments of men for money’s sake.

    (15) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
    (16) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
    (17) Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
    (18) A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.


    Their end is destruction …destruction of their mortal flesh. They themselves are saved but as by fire as they suffer loss….the loss of the mortal body that should have been kept alive in this earth by the appearing life of Jesus. They are perishing away as we speak.

    (19) Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
    (20) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


    Remember that the Lord saved people out of the land of Egypt and then afterward destroyed those that did not believe. The men who have crept in unawares are being used to catch and destroy those who really do not believe. True believing is DOING His commandment to always have love for one another.

    Jude 1:3-5 KJV
    (3) Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
    (4) For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
    (5) I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.


    We must not sit together with them as we are to arise and depart from their churches where no flesh is being saved. Yet, the simple pass on and are punished.

    Proverbs 22:3 KJV
    (3) A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.

    The simple will hear the Spirit of wisdom and some will hate what they hear. They will scorn…they will mock… what they hear. They will hate the knowledge of the Lord and refuse what they hear.

    Proverbs 1:20-30 KJV
    (20) Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
    (21) She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
    (22) How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
    (23) Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
    (24) Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
    (25) But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
    (26) I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
    (27) When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
    (28) Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
    (29) For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
    (30) They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.


    Let us hear wisdom and incline our ear to His understanding so that we may no longer be “simple” and depart from those who have led us astray from the narrow Way that leads to His appearing life in this earth.

    Proverbs 5:1-14 KJV
    (1) My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding:
    (2) That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge
    .

    The lips of a “strange woman” is the flattering lips of a preacher who is hiding the abominations of his heart (the hidden man of the heart) from us with his “good words and fair speeches”. Their mouth is smoother than oil.

    (3) For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
    (4) But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.
    (5) Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

    (6) Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them.
    (7) Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth
    .

    We must remove ourselves far away from “her” lest we succumb to their flattering words and sit together with them in their churches where no flesh is being saved as the life of Jesus is not being made manifest in the mortal flesh of any who do .

    (8) Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house:
    (9) Lest thou give thine honour unto others, and thy years unto the cruel:


    Let us not give our honor unto these strangers. They want our wealth and want us to labor for their church.

    (10) Lest strangers be filled with thy wealth; and thy labours be in the house of a stranger;

    If we refuse to listen, at the last our mortal flesh and our mortal body will be consumed when we sit together with them and we shall groan at our decision to reject His wisdom in order to continue to sit in the churches of men where no flesh is being saved.

    (11) And thou mourn at the last, when thy flesh and thy body are consumed,
    (12) And say, How have I hated instruction, and my heart despised reproof;
    (13) And have not obeyed the voice of my teachers, nor inclined mine ear to them that instructed me!
    (14) I was almost in all evil in the midst of the congregation and assembly
    .

    The “fornicators”…those who sit together with the false prophets in their churches…are not inheriting the kingdom of God which is ETERNAL. If we are perishing away in the churches of men, then we are not inheriting His eternal kingdom in this earth.

    1 Corinthians 6:9-20 KJV
    (9) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
    (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
    (11) And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
    (12) All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
    (13) Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
    (14) And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.


    We must NOT commit “fornication” by joining them in their churches where we become ONE FLESH with them. The “son of perdition” is already given over to the destruction of the mortal flesh as their condemnation is not slumbering and if we sit together with them, we are perishing along with them.

    (15) Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
    (16) What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
    (17) But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.


    We must FLEE the “fornication” by coming out of their churches and be separate. He that commits “fornication”….the sitting together with those who are using their flattering tongues to deceive us for money’s sake… is sinning against his own mortal body as their mortal flesh and mortal body is being consumed along with the “son of perdition” that they are joined with.

    (18) Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
    (19) What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
    (20) For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.


    The natural brute beasts who are minding earthly things are present in order to catch and destroy those who really do not believe and hold down the truth in their unrighteousness. They listen to the false prophets and are led to their own mortal destruction as they fall asleep to His commandment. The mystery of iniquity is already at work. It would have been better for them to have not known the Way of righteousness (the narrow Way that leads to His life) than to have known it and then afterward turn from the Holy Commandment to have love for one another.

    2 Peter 2:17-22 KJV
    (17) These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
    (18) For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
    (19) While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
    (20) For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
    (21) For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

    (22) But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.


    Those who have given themselves over to “fornication”…the sitting together with those who are defiling the mortal flesh….are suffering the vengeance of eternal fire as we speak as they are being judged and destroyed under the wrath of God for their disobedience. This is very evident today as all that sit together with the false prophets (whose presence is accordance to the working of Satan) are actively perishing from off this earth because they do not receive the love of the truth and be saved.

    Jude 1:7-13 KJV
    (7) Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
    (8) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
    (9) Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
    (10) But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
    (11) Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.


    These men are shepherding themselves (feeding themselves) without fear and their function is to catch and destroy those who have turned from the keeping of the Holy Commandment to have love for one another. They are hidden rocks that we are shipwrecked with.

    (12) These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
    (13) Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.


    But mercifully our Lord comes to open up our understanding to the Scriptures so that we may know Him who is true. We are to hear what the Spirit is saying and awake to His righteousness and depart from their congregations.

    Our Father gave us a commandment to “ARISE” and let us go hence so that the world may know that we love the Father. We must follow Jesus and “go away” from the churches of men so that they may know that we love the Father …. we are His sons and daughters.

    John 14:27-31 KJV
    (27) Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
    (28) Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
    (29) And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.


    The “prince of this world”…those who love to be first among us…will persecute us for doing so. They will do these things for they do not know Him.

    (30) Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
    (31) But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
     
  6. orbiter

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    Can those who follow in the footsteps of Judas hear and repent and be saved?

    Of course….remember Saul/Paul. Saul became “Paul”…which means “little” as he humbled himself towards the Lord. He humbled himself….falling to the earth…making himself “little”…at the revelation of Jesus.

    Saul (same spelling in Hebrew as “Sheol”…which is the grave) was in the house of “Judas” when he received the abundant grace of God even though he considered himself the “chief” of sinners who once persecuted and destroyed the church. Many who are following in the footsteps of Judas are in the “house of Judas” right now.

    Acts 9:11-17 KJV
    (11) And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,
    (12) And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.
    (13) Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:
    (14) And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.
    (15) But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
    (16) For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
    (17) And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.


    Men use their mouths as graves...Sheol....Saul...when they preach things that they ought not be for money's sake as those who listen to them are perishing from this earth.

    Yet, the same abundant grace shown to Saul/Paul is also shown to those sinners who should also believe on Him. Saul is the pattern to those who should hear and believe. We must hear His voice and be counted as FAITHFUL and not speak evil of those things that we might hear Him saying. Saul became "Paul"..."little"....as he humbled himself.

    1 Timothy 1:12-17 KJV
    (12) And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;
    (13) Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
    (14) And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
    (15) This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
    (16) Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
    (17) Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.



    The Son of man (His appearing life in our mortal flesh) goes away as it was determined (written) as sinners prevent His life from ever appearing in those who are being deceived by those who follow in the footsteps of Judas (Judas comes with MULTITUDES of men who have followed and are following in his footsteps to take the keeping of the “daily” sacrifice of our Lord Jesus out of our lives).

    Luke 22:21-22 KJV
    (21) But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table.


    The Son of man goes away….withdraws out of sight…as His appearing life is being removed from MULTITUDES who are being deceived by those who are preaching for money. Judas took Jesus for money’s sake.

    (22) And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed!

    They take His appearing life out of our lives with deceit and kill.

    Matthew 26:3-4 KJV
    (3) Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,
    (4) And consulted that they might take Jesus by subtilty, and kill
    him.

    The thief comes not but to steal, kill and to destroy those who fall victim to him. “I AM” comes so that we might have life and have it more abundantly.

    John 10:9-10 KJV
    (9) I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
    (10) The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.


    Don’t “consult” with those who follow in the path of Judas if they say “come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause….”

    Proverbs 1:10-19 KJV
    (10) My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not.
    (11) If they say, Come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause:


    These men swallow us up alive as the grave and whole as those who go down into the pit. Their throat is an open sepulcher; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips…(Romans 3:13). They preach things deceitfully for pay and prevent the life of Jesus from ever appearing in the mortal flesh of those who listen to them. NO FLESH is being saved in the churches of earthly-minded men. “Saul” = Sheol…the grave.

    (12) Let us swallow them up alive as the grave; and whole, as those that go down into the pit:

    They come to take the life of Jesus out of our lives all for pay….for receiving “precious substance”….and so the Son of man (the appearing life of Jesus) “goes” away as written.

    (13) We shall find all precious substance, we shall fill our houses with spoil:
    (14) Cast in thy lot among us; let us all have one purse:

    (15) My son, walk not thou in the way with them; refrain thy foot from their path:
    (16) For their feet run to evil, and make haste to shed blood.
    (17) Surely in vain the net is spread in the sight of any bird.


    Yet, they lay wait for their own blood. They “lurk privily” for their own lives. The destroyers of the church are being destroyed themselves as they seek after the earthly things while preaching deceptively...retailing the Word of God.

    (18) And they lay wait for their own blood; they lurk privily for their own lives.
    (19) So are the ways of every one that is greedy of gain; which taketh away the life of the owners thereof.


    MULTITUDES are following in the footsteps of Judas as they come to take the keeping of His daily sacrifice out of our lives so that His heavenly, eternal life never appears in this earth. They betray the Son of man with a “kiss”…the flattering lips that speak good words and fair speeches in order to deceive the simple of heart.

    Luke 22:47-48 KJV
    (47) And while he yet spake, behold a multitude, and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss him.
    (48) But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?


    Jesus WAS dead and IS ALIVE NOW forever more. Yet, the multitude that follow Judas denies this as they come and take the “I AM”…I EXIST…I AM ALIVE NOW….and cast it to the ground. They say they seek Him but then deny this very Truth and cast it down to the ground as we perish from this earth.

    John 18:3-8 KJV
    (3) Judas then, having received a band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons.
    (4) Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth, and said unto them, Whom seek ye?
    (5) They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.
    (6) As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.
    (7) Then asked he them again, Whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth.
    (8) Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he: if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way:


    The “host” comes in the footsteps of Judas and take away the keeping of the “daily” sacrifice out of our lives so that the place of His sanctuary is cast down. The place of His sanctuary is our mortal body.

    Daniel 8:11-12 KJV
    (11) Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.

    They take the “I AM” of Jesus and cast it to the ground as many perish without His appearing life in this earth. They practice and prosper at it.

    (12) And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

    The place of His sanctuary is the mortal body….the temple of the Holy Spirit which is in us. The place of His sanctuary is being cast down in all of the churches of men as NO FLESH is being saved.

    We sin against our own mortal body when we keep company with those who come in their own authority …preaching themselves for money. The thief comes only to steal, kill and destroy our mortal body.

    1 Corinthians 6:18-20 KJV
    (18) Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

    And so the place of His sanctuary is being cast down....the mortal body which is the temple of the Holy Spirit.

    (19) What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
    (20) For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.


    The “place of His sanctuary” is the mortal body….the temple of God where the Spirit of God dwells in us.

    1 Corinthians 3:16-17 KJV
    (16) Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

    The destroyers of His temple (our mortal body) are being destroyed themselves as they preach things that they ought not be (the teachings and commandments of men) for money’s sake.

    (17) If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

    We must come out from among those who are preaching themselves for money’s sake.

    2 Corinthians 6:11-17 KJV
    (11) O ye Corinthians, our mouth is open unto you, our heart is enlarged.
    (12) Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels.
    (13) Now for a recompence in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged.
    (14) Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
    (15) And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?


    What agreement has the temple of God with idols? Covetousness = idolatry. Men cannot serve God for money (God AND mammon) and we must not sit together with those who are doing such things. Our mortal body is the temple of the living God and if we sit together with the thief, we are being destroyed along with them.

    (16) And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
    (17) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
     
  7. Tolworth John

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    Can you say what you are trying to say in one sentence.
     
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    1 Timothy 5:18 KJV
    (18) For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward.
     
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