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2Pe 1:20 Above all, you must realize that no prophecy in Scripture ever came from the prophet's own understanding,

2Pe 1:21 or from human initiative. No, those prophets were moved by the Holy Spirit, and they spoke from God.


All prophecy is from God.

There is no "personal" or "human" reasoning in prophecy, it surpasses all known human knowledge because it concerns events only God can know and reveal.

Prophecy is objective.

Every prophecy that has been fulfilled has come to pass as it was given.



It wont be any different in the days to come, Gods will be done, on earth, as it is in heaven.

In Jesus Christs HOLY name.
 

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Not exactly sure where you wanted to go with this, but I think a few points should be made...
2 Pet. 1:20-21 HCSB
(20) First of all, you should know this: no prophecy of Scripture comes from one's own interpretation,
(21) because no prophecy ever came by the will of man; instead, moved by the Holy Spirit, men spoke from God.
One point is that the word "prophecy" doesn't necessarily refer to something predictive. A prophecy is a forth-telling of God's word and doesn't necessarily imply a fore-telling.

With that in mind, v. 20 is telling us that Scripture is to be interpreted in light of other Scripture. That no one can read a passage and claim "this is the interpretation I've come up with". Since God authored all of Scripture it must all be internally consistent.

V. 21 reminds us that God is the author of Scripture. Mere men didn't sit down and write what they thought God might want them to say. No, Scripture was "inspired" (i.e., God breathed), and the human scribes wrote what God told them to write.

So these verses speak to the divine authorship of the Bible, and they give us a hermeneutical principle when it comes to understanding what we're reading.
 
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Not exactly sure where you wanted to go with this, but I think a few points should be made...
2 Pet. 1:20-21 HCSB
(20) First of all, you should know this: no prophecy of Scripture comes from one's own interpretation,
(21) because no prophecy ever came by the will of man; instead, moved by the Holy Spirit, men spoke from God.
One point is that the word "prophecy" doesn't necessarily refer to something predictive. A prophecy is a forth-telling of God's word and doesn't necessarily imply a fore-telling.

With that in mind, v. 20 is telling us that Scripture is to be interpreted in light of other Scripture. That no one can read a passage and claim "this is the interpretation I've come up with". Since God authored all of Scripture it must all be internally consistent.

V. 21 reminds us that God is the author of Scripture. Mere men didn't sit down and write what they thought God might want them to say. No, Scripture was "inspired" (i.e., God breathed), and the human scribes wrote what God told them to write.

So these verses speak to the divine authorship of the Bible, and they give us a hermeneutical principle when it comes to understanding what we're reading.

Great post:clap:
 
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An important and interesting piece of this is how that the scriptures are more sure than if we were to hear God's own voice as Peter, James, and John did on that mountain.

And of course how could we not think of Peter's words concerning our being born again by the incorruptible seed of the word of God which lives and abides for ever.

A wondrous topic indeed :amen:
 
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"Fulfilled as given"?

Christ is the Seed of Abraham, meaning one person, not many seeds, Gal 3.

David's fallen tent raised up is the nations believing the Gospel, Acts 15.

The children of the desolate woman are the nations believing the Gospel, Gal 4

...not quite as given!
 
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"Fulfilled as given"?

Yes, as given.

Gen_49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Zec_9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.


The NT verses you gave remain to be fulfilled, the Gentiles have not all come to Christ yet.

We are bringing more Gentiles to Christ everyday.
 
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Interplanner said in post 6:

David's fallen tent raised up is the nations believing the Gospel, Acts 15.

Acts 15:14-17 doesn't say or mean that Amos 9:11-12 is "fulfilled", only that the basic principle of the salvation of Gentiles "agrees" (Greek "sumphoneo": G4856) with the idea of Amos 9:11-12, and only as it was understood by the (fallible) individual quoted in Acts 15:14-17. A different way of understanding Amos 9:11-12 is by looking at the original Hebrew: Amos 9:11-12 can mean that the house of David will be restored to power and will possess Edom (present-day southern Jordan) and all other nations. This will be fulfilled during the coming millennium, which won't occur until after Jesus' 2nd coming (Revelation 19:7 to 20:6, Zechariah 14:3-21). Jesus is of the house of David (Luke 1:69, Matthew 1:1), and so at his return, he will restore the house of David to power by sitting on the throne of David (Luke 1:32, Isaiah 9:7, Isaiah 16:5) and ruling the earth (Zechariah 14:9, Psalms 72:8-11).
 
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