LOL, as if you have a clue about any of this, Podromos.I'm pretty sure that image is grabbed from a video of a sunrise or sunset, where if you watch the clip you will see that all the clouds are in the forefront. Flat earthers are very selective in what images they post, quietly passing over anything that doesn't fit their narrative.
I’m not sure eternity with the sort of god that would play that kind of game with my soul is that much better than hell.If you were standing at the Gates of heaven and God said you just need to answer one question to get in. Is the world flat or round? If you get it wrong you're going to hell for eternity, or you can just tell me you don't know and I will let you in. What would you say ? Just for fun LOL.
Have you ever addressed ANYthing substantial? Can't remember you ever doing so.No. Clouds in front of the sun, visibility of those clouds being overpowered by the brightness of the sun.
-CryptoLutheran
Because refraction is a real thing that.... does explain a lot?
And let's not also forget that....
Mauna Kea, is the highest peak in Hawaii (the summit of the Big Island). With nothing but the ocean around it, and a few other nearby islands, you should be able to see extremely far away. The island of Kauai has the seventh highest point in the Hawaiian islands: the peak known as Kawaikini. If you were to draw a straight line from Mauna Kea (elevation: 13,796 ft.) to Kawaikini (elevation: 5226 ft.) it would span a distance of 303 miles.
However, you cannot see one from the other, which you would absolutely be able to do if the Earth
If you were standing at the Gates of heaven and God said you just need to answer one question to get in. Is the world flat or round? If you get it wrong you're going to hell for eternity, or you can just tell me you don't know and I will let you in. What would you say ? Just for fun LOL.
How come everytime we provide an answer to the challenges thrown at us, not once do flat earthers acknowledge that, ok, we may actually have a point?
It never happens, they simply ignore the response and move on to their next 'gotcha' argument.
You stated this:Because refraction is a real thing that.... does explain a lot?
And let's not also forget that....
Mauna Kea, is the highest peak in Hawaii (the summit of the Big Island). With nothing but the ocean around it, and a few other nearby islands, you should be able to see extremely far away. The island of Kauai has the seventh highest point in the Hawaiian islands: the peak known as Kawaikini. If you were to draw a straight line from Mauna Kea (elevation: 13,796 ft.) to Kawaikini (elevation: 5226 ft.) it would span a distance of 303 miles.
However, you cannot see one from the other, which you would absolutely be able to do if the Earth were flat. With a curved Earth of its measured radius, the line-of-sight limit for those two elevations caps out at 233 miles. Only with a curved Earth is one invisible from the other, and this is true for any two mountain peaks with clear line-of-sights from one to the other.
I couldn't help but notice you didn't actually address the example I provided. That's often a tactic that people who don't have an answer use.
So use one.
Ignoring the whole anti scriptural aspect of your senario. I have to assume that you are trying to say that the shape of the earth is not a salvation issue.If you were standing at the Gates of heaven and God said you just need to answer one question to get in. Is the world flat or round? If you get it wrong you're going to hell for eternity, or you can just tell me you don't know and I will let you in. What would you say ? Just for fun LOL.
I couldn't help but notice you didn't actually address the example I provided. That's often a tactic that people who don't have an answer use. Please feel free to explain how my specific example fits within the context of an FE model.You stated this:
"He is taking an atmospheric effect that happens occasionally and applying it across the board."
You can tell me all of the things that cannot be seen.... However, the fact that there are many things that are seen from distances that should put them well below the curve quite consistently... that are explained away with "refraction", As is the "selenelion" eclipse.
Seems to me like people will use this atmospheric effect and use it "across the board" when it suits them, to prove the globe model.
Fact is... on very consistent occasions... we see too far... It's not washed away with the magic pill of "refraction".
I think it's wrong, then, to accuse the FE camp of this.
Pot/Kettle.
However, the fact that there are many things that are seen from distances that should put them well below the curve quite consistently... that are explained away with "refraction", As is the "selenelion" eclipse
Why do you have this as your signature Rick?LOL, as if you have a clue about any of this, Podromos.
You do have a fancy strut as you swagger through us intellectual inferiors, tho.
A mind truly is a terrible thing to waste.
Ignoring the whole anti scriptural aspect of your senario. I have to assume that you are trying to say that the shape of the earth is not a salvation issue.
On this note, and with the understanding of the fact that I hold to neither the globe or the FE model... I will say that many atheistic globe believers have come to both the FE camp and belief in the bible and their savior because of it.