"Flat Earth" or "Globe Earth"

[d taylor]

That looks like a SpaceX rocket, so it is launching a satellite into orbit. It is definitely not going to Mars with a payload that tiny. If it was bigger it might have been a supply launch for the ISS which orbits at 250 miles.

Your post was.

They say in the video, mars climate orbiter, at 25 seconds in the video.

 

[Lost4words]

They say in the video, mars climate orbiter, at 25 seconds in the video.

Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that the book is meant as an in depth history of the earth and its creation and how the universe 'works'.

(In response to your sig my friend).

 

[Jipsah]

So you are floating off into outer space right now? Jump off a cliff. You'll find out that mass and gravity are facts. Isaac Newton believed in God, by the way.

I was being sarcastic

 

[d taylor]

Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that the book is meant as an in depth history of the earth and its creation and how the universe 'works'.

(In response to your sig my friend).

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

Which i am using the teachings (descriptions) in the Bible to rebuke and correct the globe lie.

 

[prodromos]

They say in the video, mars climate orbiter, at 25 seconds in the video.

My mistake, it is a Delta II rocket launch. The upper stage is launched into orbit where it uses gravity assist to slingshot out to Mars. It takes some time before it leaves Earth's orbit.

 

[Jipsah]

Here’s the really sad of all this. The Flatties say that the Bible *teaches* that the earth is flat, while Globists say that the writers of Scripture were simply speaking as people have always spoken, and always will, from the perspective of terrestrial observers, and isn’t “teaching” anything at all by so doing. If the Flatties are correct, then the Bible is simply wrong, and that is, in effect, what they’re saying. They’re telling the already unbelieving world “never mind those mountains of empirical evidence to the contrary, the Bible says the world is flat, and so it is!”. In one fell swoop they present the Bible and the Christian Faith as ridiculous and unworthy of belief. Nice work, mates.

 

[Lost4words]

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

Which i am using the teachings (descriptions) in the Bible to rebuke and correct the globe lie.

Teaching, rebuking, correcting and training.....on all matters appertaining to holiness, salvation etc. Not on science!

 

[Aussie Pete]

I was being sarcastic

Thanks, my humour gland was not fully active when I read your post.

 

[prodromos]

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

Which i am using the teachings (descriptions) in the Bible to rebuke and correct the globe lie.

How do you use the teachings of the Bible to explain a Lunar Eclipse?

 

[d taylor]

My mistake, it is a Delta II rocket launch. The upper stage is launched into orbit where it uses gravity assist to slingshot out to Mars. It takes some time before it leaves Earth's orbit.

No problem, we all make mistakes

 

[JacksBratt]

It doesn't if you do the same experiment in multiple locations. Look up the Eratosthenes Project. Schools and universities all over the globe take part and their results are only consistent with a globe.

It does..

This is due to the fact that the globe model accepts that the sun is large and far away. In the globe model it is the curve of the earth that causes the different angles at which the parallel rays of sunlight strike the stick.

In the FE model, however, the sun is close and smaller.. It moves around the FE in circles. Since it is close, it is the angle at which it's rays strike the sticks at different positions on the FE...

So, it's not proof of anything. Both models, when their differences are taken into consideration, can use this experiment to prove their state of the earth.

 

[JacksBratt]

How do you use the teachings of the Bible to explain a Lunar Eclipse?

How does the globe model explain a Selenelion eclipse..

That is an eclipse, with the sun fully risen...

Which is impossible on a globe..

But...wait for it... the famous explanation as to why the earth's shadow can be on the moon when the sun, the light source, is fully risen...

 

[chilehed]

It's right there in bold blue.

Yep, and you seem to have not actually read it very well.

 

[d taylor]

How do you use the teachings of the Bible to explain a Lunar Eclipse?

The Bible first states that the moon is a created light and that: And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years, He made the moon to mark the seasons.

So with that understood from the Bible, then what a person sees the moon doing is understood as part of its lighting functions that God has created the moon to do.
To mark signs of seasons.

 

[prodromos]

It does..

This is due to the fact that the globe model accepts that the sun is large and far away. In the globe model it is the curve of the earth that causes the different angles at which the parallel rays of sunlight strike the stick.

In the FE model, however, the sun is close and smaller.. It moves around the FE in circles. Since it is close, it is the angle at which it's rays strike the sticks at different positions on the FE...

So, it's not proof of anything. Both models, when their differences are taken into consideration, can use this experiment to prove their state of the earth.

Nope.
Because of the curvature of the earth, the change in the angle of the shadow is non linear as you move away from the point where the sun is directly overhead. On a flat earth model the change in the angle is necessarily linear which does not match the data collected by the Eratosthenes project. It matches perfectly with the globe.

 

[prodromos]

How does the globe model explain a Selenelion eclipse..

That is an eclipse, with the sun fully risen...

No, it is an eclipse where where both the sun and moon are VISIBLE, either at sunrise or sunset. Bending of light through the atmosphere allows both to be seen while still below the horizon.

Which is impossible on a globe..

No.
Now please explain how ANY kind of lunar eclipse is possible with the flat earth model.

 

[prodromos]

The Bible first states that the moon is a created light and that: And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years, He made the moon to mark the seasons.

So with that understood from the Bible, then what a person sees the moon doing is understood as part of its lighting functions that God has created the moon to do.
To mark signs of seasons.

What season does a lunar eclipse mark?

 

[prodromos]

 

[JacksBratt]

No, it is an eclipse where where both the sun and moon are VISIBLE, either at sunrise or sunset. Bending of light through the atmosphere allows both to be seen while still below the horizon.

Ya... there is bending of something.... You say it's the light of the sun and moon... I say it's bending the truth to try to explain something impossible on the globe model.


No.

Now please explain how ANY kind of lunar eclipse is possible with the flat earth model.

Well. On the flat earth... the light bends LOL LOL LOL

You cannot in one breath state such nonsense as light bending to give an eclipse of the moon with the shadow of the earth... when the sun is fully risen...

And then in the next breath condemn the FE for not having an explanation...

I will state that eclipses are an issue... But they are an issue with both models.

So spare me the magic of bending light.

 

[prodromos]

when the sun is fully risen

You repeat the same falsehood. The sun is never fully risen in a Selenelion eclipse.

I will state that eclipses are an issue... But they are an issue with both models

They are no issue at all in the globe model and they are utterly impossible in the flat earth model.