Flat Earth.... flame free, please.

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I've seen it with my own eyes while sitting on the beach in Miami.
What most people everywhere "see with their own eyes" is deception,
so that doesn't count as evidence of truth.

Flat earth was easily discounted for thousands of years, until man came up with "many devices" (falsehoods) trusting someone other that God.
 
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What most people everywhere "see with their own eyes" is deception,
so that doesn't count as evidence of truth.
And yet when you see that the road ahead of your car curves to the left or right, I'm sure you turn the wheel to match it.

In the same way, I have seen the curvature of the Earth with my own eyes, and only a fool disbelieves God's gift of sight.
 
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Has anyone in this thread brought up the following obvious points?

#1) If the Earth is flat, why not simply go to the edge and take a picture? We have airplanes, boats, etc. SHould be fairly easy to do. So what is the FE excuse of not doing so?
--Seriously, if you think about all the energy and creative ways they have for ignoring, discounting, hand-waiving away obvious truths, how could that same energy NOT be spent on requiring photos of the edge of the Earth? In fact, you'd only need 1/100th of 1% of the "denying Earth is round" energy in order to disprove the Earth is Flat...

#2) If the Sky is a solid, why not take a rocket up to the top and collect a sample of this firmament?

#3) How do FE-ers discount obvious rocket videos that are created monthly by the hundreds. Here is a quick one from a few years ago


it takes some serious creative denial to believe in FE.

I had a dream about this the other night. I dreamed I was a Scrooge McDuck Super Rich Trillionaire and I was on TV debating with some FE-er types that were convinced that there was no space etc. So, I built a rocket with a shuttle bay and I invited a 100 flat earthers to come on board. I also invited them to bring their cameras and video recorders etc. We Live Streamed the whole thing, I took them to the moon and they walked around, saw the Earth etc...

BUT...

they were all convinced that it was faked. They argued that the reality was that I built a giant studio and that the rocket merely flew them to a remote location on Earth at night were I docked with the giant studio. They then said that the set was an elaborate vacuum tank. Then I said, "Oh yeah, what about the reduced gravity???".
They replied that the explanation was obvious, that the government had anti-gravity devices that they developed in secret in order to construct the elaborate studio to fool flat earthers.

I literally woke up from my dream laughing, I laughed myself awake...
 
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Hebrews 11 MSG - Faith in What We Don't See - The - Bible Gateway

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+11&version=MSG

11 1-2 The fundamental fact of existence is that this trust in God, this faith, is the firm ... He had his eye on the One no eye can see, and kept right on going.
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2 Corinthians 4:18 NIV - So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, - Bible ...
2 Corinthians 4:18...NIV - - Bible Gateway

So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.
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2 Corinthians 5:7 - Bible Gateway
2 Corinthians 5:7 - Bible Gateway

for we walk by faith, not by sight [living our lives in a manner consistent with our confident ... We live by what we believe will happen, not by what we can see.
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There's a lot more importance on what is not seen,
all through our lives,
as Yahweh states clearly in Scripture.

If everyone saw clearly what /as/ Yahweh reveals , spiritually,
there would be no argument (perhaps) ... men are so wicked, there might be ongoing arguments anyway.....
 
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Has anyone in this thread brought up the following obvious points?

#1) If the Earth is flat, why not simply go to the edge and take a picture? We have airplanes, boats, etc. SHould be fairly easy to do. So what is the FE excuse of not doing so?
--Seriously, if you think about all the energy and creative ways they have for ignoring, discounting, hand-waiving away obvious truths, how could that same energy NOT be spent on requiring photos of the edge of the Earth? In fact, you'd only need 1/100th of 1% of the "denying Earth is round" energy in order to disprove the Earth is Flat...

#2) If the Sky is a solid, why not take a rocket up to the top and collect a sample of this firmament?

#3) How do FE-ers discount obvious rocket videos that are created monthly by the hundreds. Here is a quick one from a few years ago


it takes some serious creative denial to believe in FE.
1. There is a global conspiracy that prevents anyone who is interested in the "Truth" (meaning: the Flat Earth) from going to the edge. "Proof" for that is that travel to Antarctica is rather strictly regulated... and those who manage to travel can of course never be sure that they really are where they are claimed to have been shipped to. Might be a studio somewhere in Greenland, right?
And everyone who tries to travel to Antarctica on their own is captured and executed by the giant NASA / UNO / Illuminati fleet patroling the 125.000 km coastline of the so-called "Antarctic Continent".

2. "Mad Mike" Hughes is actively trying to do that (well, he wants to see the curve from his rocket, but if he can reach the dome... the better.) He has already managed to reach the incredible height of 572 meters... only some 12,000,000 or so more to go.... depending on what number for the "dome" you accept.

3. CGI. All CGI. What do you think NASA uses the millions of dollars for they get? For rockets? No, all is spend on giant computers doing nothing but spitting out CGI footage of the ISS, Earth from Space, Hubble, Mars-Missions and the lost Toy Story sequel.

;)
Note: all of these claims and endeavours have really been made by Flat Earthers. Well, not the Toy Story one... but the do claim that Walt Disney was responsible for the Moon landing fakes.
 
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MOD HAT ON
Thread head to be cleaned due to off topic posting.
Please keep the thread on the topic of Flat Earth cosmology versus Round Earth.

MOD HAT OFF
 
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the earlier Church thought these ideas of the shape and position of the earth were important enough to condemn people to death by burning for heresy.

Actually, nobody was "burned for heresy" on any aspect of "the shape and position of the earth."

If you're thinking of Giordano Bruno, he was condemned for other things.
 
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Oh, north-south circumnavigation. In theory, I suppose, on a globe. Funny thing is that it has yet to be done.

It's been done, but not all at once. In particular, Antarctica has been crossed several times.
 
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But did he cross via the South Pole, the way that the 1955–58 Commonwealth Trans-Antarctic Expedition did?

Antarctica_CTAE.jpg
 
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