Fish finger fossils show the beginnings of hands

[essentialsaltes]

Researchers have discovered the fossil of a fish with finger-like digits in its fin that lived 380 million years ago, according to a new study. And they believe it bridges the evolutionary gap between marine and land vertebrates as one of the oldest examples of a skeletal pattern resembling a hand.

The study published Wednesday in the journal Nature.

"Today we announce in the journal Nature our discovery of a complete specimen of a tetrapod-like fish, called Elpistostege, which reveals extraordinary new information about the evolution of the vertebrate hand," said John Long, study author and Strategic Professor in Palaeontology at Flinders University in Australia.

"This is the first time that we have unequivocally discovered fingers locked in a fin with fin-rays in any known fish. The articulating digits in the fin are like the finger bones found in the hands of most animals."

In the phylogenetic tree, this species is near the justly-famous Tiktaalik.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Obligatory:

 

[crossnote]

Gee, what desperate lengths they'll go to in hopes of there being no coming Judgment.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Gee, what desperate lengths they'll go to in hopes of there being no coming Judgment.

It's not all about you and your chosen religion.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Gee, what desperate lengths they'll go to in hopes of there being no coming Judgment.

If there is god and it is just, it'll praise those that took the trouble to understand their world.

 

[Lost4words]

God created everything. God created man in His image.

We didnt evolve from apes!

 

[Aussie Pete]

Researchers have discovered the fossil of a fish with finger-like digits in its fin that lived 380 million years ago, according to a new study. And they believe it bridges the evolutionary gap between marine and land vertebrates as one of the oldest examples of a skeletal pattern resembling a hand.

The study published Wednesday in the journal Nature.

"Today we announce in the journal Nature our discovery of a complete specimen of a tetrapod-like fish, called Elpistostege, which reveals extraordinary new information about the evolution of the vertebrate hand," said John Long, study author and Strategic Professor in Palaeontology at Flinders University in Australia.

"This is the first time that we have unequivocally discovered fingers locked in a fin with fin-rays in any known fish. The articulating digits in the fin are like the finger bones found in the hands of most animals."

In the phylogenetic tree, this species is near the justly-famous Tiktaalik.

Proves nothing. The theory of evolution founders on the rock of origin of life. If life did not arise spontaneously then evolution cannot happen. 60 years of the most intense research, by the finest minds and with the greatest resources, has not produced anything like life. Evolutionists nil, God 10 billion.

 

[crossnote]

It's not all about you and your chosen religion.

ditto to the evolutionists.

 

[essentialsaltes]

The theory of evolution founders on the rock of origin of life.

Nope. The theory is about how living things change over time.

If life did not arise spontaneously then evolution cannot happen.

Nope. The Great Gazoo could have created life on earth, and nothing would prevent evolution from happening afterwards.

60 years of the most intense research, by the finest minds and with the greatest resources, has not produced anything like life.

Irrelevant. Astronomers don't have to build a star to understand how they change over time.

For something that you scorn, you seemingly haven't spent much time investigating what it actually is.

 

[crossnote]

If there is god and it is just, it'll praise those that took the trouble to understand their world.

Sure will, unless that understanding comes from that God himself, in which case that God will receive the praise...not man.

 

[Tinker Grey]

in which case that God will receive the praise...not man.

Your god will praise itself? Figures.

 

[essentialsaltes]

ditto to the evolutionists.

Your comment doesn't make any sense. Evolutionists have all sorts of different religious beliefs.

 

[Occams Barber]

Gee, what desperate lengths they'll go to in hopes of there being no coming Judgment.

I don't get the link between Fish Fingers and 'no coming judgement'.

Can you explain in words an old atheist can understand?
OB

 

[JackRT]

Gee, what desperate lengths they'll go to in hopes of there being no coming Judgment.

Complete non sequitor.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Gee, what desperate lengths they'll go to in hopes of there being no coming Judgment.

I hope that you are joking. The fact of evolution has nothing to do with whether or not there is a coming Judgment.

 

[Subduction Zone]

ditto to the evolutionists.

Evolution is a testable, confirmable theory. It is not a religion.

 

[Aussie Pete]

Nope. The theory is about how living things change over time.



Nope. The Great Gazoo could have created life on earth, and nothing would prevent evolution from happening afterwards.



Irrelevant. Astronomers don't have to build a star to understand how they change over time.

For something that you scorn, you seemingly haven't spent much time investigating what it actually is.

I know enough to know that evolution is a con. For start, evolutionists found way too many flaws in the theory- including Darwin. So some genius decided to change the ground rules. So "adaptation" which was taught as scientific fact when I went to school, became "evolution". Garbage. Adaptation happens in very short time frames. Evolution supposedly takes billions of years. Adaptation is within species.

Evolution depends on life being present. No life, no evolution. You don't find rocks evolving. Now God has told humanity how life came about. He created it. Evolution is mankind's attempt to shove God out of the picture. There is nothing new about this. Just the methods have changed. Evolved if you like. Every argument in favour of evolution has been argued against by people just as educated and intelligent as evolutionists. The scientific community is bullied, bribed and blackmailed into silence. So relatively few will put their hand up and say that they reject evolution. But there are enough. I rarely see anyone argue the facts that anti evolutionists raise. It is usually an attack on the doubter. His credentials, intelligence, and sometimes his character. If the individual happens to be a believer, that is instant dismissal.

If evolution is so beyond doubt, what is there to fear? And who cares? It is of zero benefit to mankind. There are genetic researchers who utterly reject evolution doing just as valuable work as evolutionists.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Proves nothing. The theory of evolution founders on the rock of origin of life. If life did not arise spontaneously then evolution cannot happen. 60 years of the most intense research, by the finest minds and with the greatest resources, has not produced anything like life. Evolutionists nil, God 10 billion.

No, evolution explains how life changed after it came into existence. It says nothing about abiogenesis.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I know enough to know that evolution is a con. For start, evolutionists found way too many flaws in the theory- including Darwin. So some genius decided to change the ground rules. So "adaptation" which was taught as scientific fact when I went to school, became "evolution". Garbage. Adaptation happens in very short time frames. Evolution supposedly takes billions of years. Adaptation is within species.

Evolution depends on life being present. No life, no evolution. You don't find rocks evolving. Now God has told humanity how life came about. He created it. Evolution is mankind's attempt to shove God out of the picture. There is nothing new about this. Just the methods have changed. Evolved if you like. Every argument in favour of evolution has been argued against by people just as educated and intelligent as evolutionists. The scientific community is bullied, bribed and blackmailed into silence. So relatively few will put their hand up and say that they reject evolution. But there are enough. I rarely see anyone argue the facts that anti evolutionists raise. It is usually an attack on the doubter. His credentials, intelligence, and sometimes his character. If the individual happens to be a believer, that is instant dismissal.

If evolution is so beyond doubt, what is there to fear? And who cares? It is of zero benefit to mankind. There are genetic researchers who utterly reject evolution doing just as valuable work as evolutionists.

Try to calm down. Please tell us one flaw. Your claims tell us that you do not understand the theory.

 

[crossnote]

I hope that you are joking. The fact of evolution has nothing to do with whether or not there is a coming Judgment.

Evolution is a testable, confirmable theory. It is not a religion.

First you called evolution a fact then a theory, and one wonders why it is touted so highly.