first weaponize IRS against Conservative groups, then Weaponize FBI against former President

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How to lose elections....

1. Weaponize the IRS against conservative political groups
2. Weaponize the FBI against former President.

Like losing in November was not already a big problem for their party.

Mike Pence calls on Merrick Garland for 'full accounting' of Mar-a-Lago Trump raid

Why suffer a big loss in November when you can suffer a massive one??

Hard to reply to something some in Congress didn't even read. So most (no offense to anyone)will reply with what some web page or news media tell us what its really about. Duh so they lied for over 6 years but this time its all true. Ok

See its those on the right that just don't get it. Trump is not like Hunter or Clinton or X FBI CIA blah blah blah., No no its ok we don't go after them since they told us nothing to see here. Its TRUMP remember orange man bad. When were told no one in all of America had anything to do with Russia...to hear just today how Trump is still with Russia. Odd how no one here quotes them.
 
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Translation for the OP: Don't try to stop our savior from reelection; he's better at saving white folk than Jesus. And let our rich overlords have their way; we need their trinkets.
 
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Translation for the OP: Don't try to stop our savior ...

Translation for voters in different parties "if someone not in my party is having the FBI weaponized against him.. it must be ok... maybe he is someone's false savior"
 
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Translation for voters in different parties "if someone not in my party is having the FBI weaponized against him.. it must be ok... maybe he is someone's false savior"

Shouldn't we wait to see why they felt it necessary to raid Trump's space? Or is it only when white, Republican ex-presidents are raided that the lawful authorities have no right to pursue justice? I think y'all supporters of law and order have just shown your politicized hand. The cops are always right to invade the space of black and brown folks and... well, anybody but Trump. It sounds like a savior complex to me.
 
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Shouldn't we wait to see why they felt it necessary to raid Trump's space? .

They already reported it as a fishing expedition where they hoped that possibly at least one piece of paper, a document, something, anything had been taken from the Whitehouse when Trump left - that was classified and though they could not say they found it or even what "it" is... they would have to take all of it back to their base, and look until they found at least one excuse.

Or something about as objective as that.
 
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How to lose elections....

1. Weaponize the IRS against conservative political groups
2. Weaponize the FBI against former President.

Like losing in November was not already a big problem for their party.

Mike Pence calls on Merrick Garland for 'full accounting' of Mar-a-Lago Trump raid

Why suffer a big loss in November when you can suffer a massive one??


Yes, those radical actors the National archive. The hyperbole is getting so deep I'm going to need to put my hand above my head to save my watch.
 
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They already reported it as a fishing expedition where they hoped that possibly at least one piece of paper, a document, something, anything had been taken from the Whitehouse when Trump left - that was classified and though they could not say they found it or even what "it" is... they would have to take all of it back to their base, and look until they found at least one excuse.

Or something about as objective as that.

Yeah, I heard they were looking for something, which is not uncommon for FBI searches. :confused: But shouldn't we wait to see what they have or don't have before we declare it's corrupt?
 
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When you take 15 boxes of national documents, some of which were marked top secret, to your personal residence an investigation is the least you should expect. I would be rather upset if that person was not investigated to see if those documents were secure during the time they were outside the official chain of custody.
 
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Shouldn't we wait to see why they felt it necessary to raid Trump's space? Or is it only when white, Republican ex-presidents are raided that the lawful authorities have no right to pursue justice? I think y'all supporters of law and order have just shown your politicized hand. The cops are always right to invade the space of black and brown folks and... well, anybody but Trump. It sounds like a savior complex to me.
Go with the evidence? What craziness is this?
 
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They already reported it as a fishing expedition where they hoped that possibly at least one piece of paper, a document, something, anything had been taken from the Whitehouse when Trump left - that was classified and though they could not say they found it or even what "it" is... they would have to take all of it back to their base, and look until they found at least one excuse.

Or something about as objective as that.
So a Trump appointed Judge approved a warrant requiring ("probable cause"). Said warrant was carried out by the agency headed by a Trump-appointed Director. Read that sentence aloud to yourself in front of a mirror. Then describe for us the look on your face.
 
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How to lose elections....

1. Weaponize the IRS against conservative political groups
2. Weaponize the FBI against former President.

Like losing in November was not already a big problem for their party.

Mike Pence calls on Merrick Garland for 'full accounting' of Mar-a-Lago Trump raid

Why suffer a big loss in November when you can suffer a massive one??

Why politicize an active investigation? Is this how it's going to be from now on? Any time "my guy" is under investigation, the [insert law enforcement agency] is acting on the whims of the opposing party?

I don't know about you, but I value the justice system we have. It won't last if Americans continue to politicize every action take by our courts and law enforcement.
 
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They already reported it as a fishing expedition where they hoped that possibly at least one piece of paper, a document, something, anything had been taken from the Whitehouse when Trump left - that was classified and though they could not say they found it or even what "it" is... they would have to take all of it back to their base, and look until they found at least one excuse.

Or something about as objective as that.

I found this excerpt in a government document that was floating around:


Amendment 4
- Protection from Unreasonable Searches and Seizures

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

Maybe President Trump took this document with him.
 
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I found this excerpt in a government document that was floating around:


Amendment 4
- Protection from Unreasonable Searches and Seizures

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

Maybe President Trump took this document with him.
I'm not certain what you were attempting to say by highlighting those clauses. They had a warrant, supported by oath or affirmation and approved by a federal judge. Assuming that the law was followed, Trump and/or his lawyer have a copy of said warrant, describing what they were looking for, as well as a list of what was seized.
 
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I found this excerpt in a government document that was floating around:


Amendment 4
- Protection from Unreasonable Searches and Seizures

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

Maybe President Trump took this document with him.

Well one thing appears obvious --- "somebody" removed that document from America... apparently.

The idea of such overreach in America without even charging the person with a crime is the new "Way" the "hope and change" we heard so much about ...

No wonder the universities are turning out so many young would-be socialists.

Reminds me of the Soviet Socialist Republic
 
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Well one thing appears obvious --- "somebody" removed that document from America... apparently.

The idea of such overreach in America without even charging the person with a crime is the new "Way" the "hope and change" we heard so much about ...
Since when have the police needed to file charges in order to execute a search warrant?
 
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Since when have the police needed to file charges in order to execute a search warrant?

"No charges ma'am -- were just searching for stuff -- don't know what it is - we're taking everything so we can think it over and come up with something"

or else this...


Amendment 4
- Protection from Unreasonable Searches and Seizures

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.

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