First Presidential debate will be too late: many States will have already started voting!

[eclipsenow]

Again, Planet America shows how weird things are getting.

 

[loveofourlord]

yeah, about the only smart thing Trump has said recently, there is so much with american politics that just doesn't make sense.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

Trump cant have a decent debate. Without name calling and what ever. I think most people have made their mind up. On who they are voting for.

 

[disciple Clint]

Again, Planet America shows how weird things are getting.

this could be very interesting if in fact Biden does poorly in the debate, honestly I think that many people who would vote for him want to see what happens in that debate before they sign off on him.

 

[Bobber]

I think President Trump made a good point. The debates have always been viewed in tradition as an opportunity for the nation to see how both candidates can make their case for themselves and against their opponent with each one able to give rebuttals against the other in a real conversation not canned answers dreamed up later by an adviser.

It shows voters the capacity of each one to handle pressure as they would have to do in meetings with world leaders. Why shouldn't the debates therefore at least one of them take place before voting starts.

Some have countered that by saying a person can get their ballot in the mail and hold off on sending it until after the first debate but how many would even do that. Even Hillary Clinton said recently

'Request your ballots and return them as early as you can.'

 

[Kentonio]

this could be very interesting if in fact Biden does poorly in the debate, honestly I think that many people who would vote for him want to see what happens in that debate before they sign off on him.

You’re a cast iron Trump supporter, why would you know what potential Biden voters are thinking or going to do?

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

The debates have always been viewed in tradition as an opportunity for the nation to see how both candidates can make their case for themselves and against their opponent with each one able to give rebuttals against the other in a real conversation not canned answers dreamed up later by an adviser.

Bit like the tradition the Presidents publish their tax information so we see who they have financial ties with.

 

[grasping the after wind]

I don't see how the way that they are going to do mail in voting is even Constitutional as the Constitution requires election day to be the same throughout the country. Mail in voting, as it is being done, makes election day several different days not one day throughout the country. A different day for everyone is not only technically unconstitutional but also completely the opposite of the spirit of the clause. The idea of having one day for elections is so that the people will have the exact same information available to them . If one finds out on Nov.2 that a candidate is not who one thought he/she was when one voted, it is too late to change one's mind. The only way mail in voting could be Constituional is if the ballot were placed in the mail on Nov. 3. not before or after that date.

 

[Bobber]

Bit like the tradition the Presidents publish their tax information so we see who they have financial ties with.

That's not the subject of the thread! Do you believe it's right to allow voting before the debates or don't you.

 

[comana]

I personally do not find debates valuable. I feel like they only benefit fast talkers and are not a genuine evaluation of a candidate.

This election I doubt many voters are relying on debates anyway. It feels like most have already made up their mind. Just my opinion.

 

[Jonathan Walkerin]

That's not the subject of the thread! Do you believe it's right to allow voting before the debates or don't you.

Sure. Traditional and all.

 

[Kentonio]

I don't see how the way that they are going to do mail in voting is even Constitutional as the Constitution requires election day to be the same throughout the country. Mail in voting, as it is being done, makes election day several different days not one day throughout the country. A different day for everyone is not only technically unconstitutional but also completely the opposite of the spirit of the clause. The idea of having one day for elections is so that the people will have the exact same information available to them . If one finds out on Nov.2 that a candidate is not who one thought he/she was when one voted, it is too late to change one's mind. The only way mail in voting could be Constituional is if the ballot were placed in the mail on Nov. 3. not before or after that date.

Given that absentee voting has been used since the Civil War, is this an issue you’ve complained about your whole life, or did it only become a problem this election?

 

[durangodawood]

The "debates" are dumb. Ignore them. Its all about trying to bait each other for gotcha moments. The moderators do that too. Substance takes a distant back seat.

 

[Pommer]

The only way mail in voting could be Constituional is if the ballot were placed in the mail on Nov. 3. not before or after that date.

So all the ballots that have been cast by service members all through our history have been “unconstitutional”?

Uh-huh.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

So all the ballots that have been cast by service members all through our history have been “unconstitutional”?

Uh-huh.

Well, if they voted for a Democrat, then yes.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Given that absentee voting has been used since the Civil War, is this an issue you’ve complained about your whole life, or did it only become a problem this election?

My whole life. I even suggested a way for mail in and absentee voting to be Constitutional. Mail in same day voting should not be unconstitutional. As there are two and a half months until the results have to be absolutely verified I don't see that what I am suggesting would be a problem for vote counting. Why would anyone be opposed to that? Unless one thinks their particular candidate would fare worse if more was known about him when the constitution requirements were followed and one's political preferences were more important to one than the Constitution and following the rules it set out.

 

[Pommer]

My whole life. I even suggested a way for mail in and absentee voting to be Constitutional. Mail in same day voting should not be unconstitutional. As there are two and a half months until the results have to be absolutely verified I don't see that what I am suggesting would be a problem for vote counting. Why would anyone be opposed to that? Unless one thinks their particular candidate would fare worse if more was known about him when the constitution requirements were followed and one's political preferences were more important to one than the Constitution and following the rules it set out.

Let’s just call it “election month”?

 

[eclipsenow]

Bit like the tradition the Presidents publish their tax information so we see who they have financial ties with.

Yes - that was a thing until recent times. Trump - the bad Santa gift that keeps on "giving!"

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

So all the ballots that have been cast by service members all through our history have been “unconstitutional”?

Uh-huh.

I believe people are being heavily influenced against mail ballot. Because of Trump and possibly their news source. And that why Trump supporters are bickering about how wrong it is.

 

[eclipsenow]

I believe people are being heavily influenced against mail ballot. Because of Trump and possibly their news source. And that why Trump supporters are bickering about how wrong it is.

It's horrendous to have a President undermine democracy like this! A properly organised Mail Ballot is a really hard thing to undermine - and it is an awful lot of effort to look up a local deceased person's records, get their social security, fill in their address, get their Mail Ballot, fill it out and mail it off, risk jail time if you get found out when the equivalent Dept of Death Certificates talks to social security, all for just impersonating ONE vote!