then you might accept the POSSIBILITY of Jesus [and John Lennon!
] being right, that all one needs is Love... to be saved from death by translation to spirit [immortality of the spirit, paradise, the third heaven] - albeit those saved can still be used by God as messengers ['angelos' in Greek, hence the misnomer 'angels'] because they can manifest and re-translate conveying messages by the flesh to folks , which is more effective for some messages from God that shape men's history and future...
anyway, the first step toward perfect Love of saints is clearly to stop abusing folks with sin against them , sin [not hate] is the very opposite of Love [sin is anything breaking God's and Jesus' commandment to Love, Love is doing what God and Jesus command , so clearly they are opposites , whereas one can easily hate AND Love life and indeed some people at the same time, hate is not always a sin , does not always lead to sin] :-
2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth
sure,
having this
seal:
The Lord knoweth them
that are his.
And:
Let
every one that nameth the name of Christ
depart from iniquity.
that this is the first step should I hope be obvious then, but then you see how many mess it up and get destroyed with this earth and heavens [except that the spirit always 'returns' to God because it is of God , not physical ... and indeed it doesn't travel any more than God as spirit can or needs to , it's just a way of speaking... the spirit of a man is the essence of a man from which all men are resurrected , but the spirit is ONE, it is never separated or divided, never is it not God... thus the 'individual ' is a virtual creation of God for this creation and the next and quite possibly for others of endless creations which all end ... the 'self' is only for 'purpose' of these two creations as far as we an now know , the self is a physical manifestation, not possible spirit ... not so much a mystery as it might seem at first, since one's own self appears and disappears with consciousness, consider sleep or unconsciousness for instance... then note that consciousness requires time so is physical only... the spirt creates spce-tme as a single entity ['universe'] , time ends then as any [of many?] space-time universes end ... the spirit as creator of time and space and matter [by whatever means] is endless and time-less and space-less and matter-less, not dependent upon creation, so changeless...
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not...
our 'lives' as 'individual humans' are by means of controlling change for a while, then our self ends , our life [soul] ends, but God re-creates it in a new universe [cos' men destroy this earth which took this universe to create as it is so very special in its stability that enables complex life like us - we know something of how special is this earth from science, which however is loathe to see the implication, that we are indeed, to very highest certainty levels of science, alone in this universe ... many scientists are in love with space travel though, it affects their judgement ]
anyway , ceasing sin to begin the process of becoming Loving person [saint] , that is the commitment of water baptism , and few take it seriously, and so commit to death as the only other way men lose their sin , all those who refuse to turn against sin themselves, voluntarily ...
so why stop sinning if one can just get rid of it whenever one dies anyway?
simple really , one either 'listens' to Satan and sins abusing people or one 'listens' to God and Loves folk ... one can't listen to both because they are always opposing and the mind shuts one out ... so if one wants to get back to God as quickly as possible one will choose to listen to God and Love, else one will listen to Satan and continue sinning all one's life like almost all folks do [even almost all who are religious - you can tell by the division of religion right down to individual beliefs ... how many even could logically be true to the one Truth of God ? [at most one, maybe none, out of billions ]
but we have some help ,God won't answer one's prayers unless one listens to Him , how could He! so if something bad happens because one wished for it then it is clear I think whom one is talking to, listening to ... if something Loving happens , then again it is clear ...but be clear Love is NOT about expectation beyond God's Plan for everyone, for all sinners too...it is only a matter of time that Love overcomes all , Jesus' promise on that, and it is the very nature of Love that it simply cannot exclude anyone the way religions do... what it does have is time , time enough for everything, including the overcoming of all sin by Love alone... no force required...unlike sin which uses fear as a force ,man against man...
so it's just a question of time , a few though God requires in this world to be saints, and requires that His prophecy about who thy are come true [although all mass religions have obfuscated what that prophecy clearly, unambiguously states, for their own evil purposes in THIS world [which come to naught as the world ends]
but say one does stop sinning, either now by choice or later by death and resurrection, what next ? ... well God promises to baptise all flesh with His spirit to know all Truth [Joel 2:28, John 16:13] , but cannot do so until folks listen , so most don't even get to know God's Truth in this life because they prefer sin to Love at least until it's to late [that is when Jesus returns and takes none that are still sinners, only the few saints ]:-
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them,
I never knew you: depart from me,
ye that work iniquity.
Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me,
all ye workers of iniquity.
Jesus couldn't really put it any more clearly , none still sinners can be taken and saved in this world , because they never knew him, never listened to God , never turned to Love even if someone splashed them with water as babies or dunked them in a pond... the MEANING of water baptism has been lost in religion... and Satan is to blame, sinners run the sad show now for billions. no saints... toward Rev 13:3-4 , worship by the whole world united of the WRONG god ... Ezekiel 28 and 2Thess 2 explain why and how , Satan manifest as the prodigal 'son of perdition' of God, left-hand covering cherub finally with the face of a man, and God first gets him to confess his blasphemy -2Thess2:4 and then has him killed under Jewish law [as he must be a Jew of teh tribe of Judah to have been accepted by Jews worldwide as their long-awaited Messiah come at last]
as Jesus warned then it's often not a long life being a saint in this world with almost the whole world against one [what an irony when saints are the ones who will rule and minister in the kingdom come mass salvation of those who persecuted them in this earth ... after all are released from hell freed of sin by death -Rev 20:13] ... but it is bliss to be whole with one's conscience, one's true God, one's spirit, one's heart of Love, one's mind... and to know it is the shortest way back to God ... those still sinners are all killed in this world in the horrendous consequences of thousands of years of sin , described in detail in scripture , mass famine , terrible pandemic diseases let loose by failure of 'civilisation' and of our fake virtual money system, wild animals driven to feed in packs off men again, so many corpses that no-one can bury them at the rate men die... vulcanism that blots out sun and moon to red blobs in the murky sky so plant life dies off worldwide, earthquakes larger than any previously known, cities deserted ... one can hardly say it all, the worst time man ever will know or knew according to scripture... only the saints and the dead avoid this... but it makes the point that we shall need a new earth , and the creation of this earth is unique , incredibly unlikely according to science , even in relation to the vastness of [finite] space...
so indeed a new heavens is required too , to generate the new earth... and life to feed over twice as many as on this earth today when all are released from hell [Rev 20:13] , all who ever died who didn't become saints and weren't translated to spirit from this earth...
so the few are saved first to build the kingdom for a thousand years before the many are resurrected and countless many saved at this later time [Rev 7:9-10]in the new earth kingdom of Jesus finally come to all , but God has still to convince to Love those who sin in the kingdom and thus must die again to free them from sin yet again ... but all men have been through baptism of the spirit by then ... only baptism of fire in the lake of fire remains to complete salvation of the most evil of men... the beauty of that truly elegant feature of God's plan I have discussed elsewhere on the site ... suffice it here to say that all will accept Jesus eventually [and thus Love ] in his role as king of kings of the new earth , his promise on that :-
Revelation 5:13 And
every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
