FDA approves human embryonic stem cell study

[Jester4kicks]

I couldn't decide if this should go in science or politics... however, since I think the discussion is going to become more political than scientific, I put it here.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/23/stem.cell/index.html

Federal regulators have cleared the way for the first human trials of human embryonic stem-cell research, authorizing researchers to test whether the cells are safe to use in spinal injury patients, the company behind the trials announced Friday.

I don't know about anyone else... but I think this is awesome! I can't wait to see if this becomes a viable treatment for spinal injuries. If it does, there's that much more hope that it can be applied toward alzheimers and parkinsons.


Now, here's the question... if a paralyzed person is treated, and a year later is walking again... is anyone here going to change their current opinion about stem cell research?

 

[Garyzenuf]

I couldn't decide if this should go in science or politics... however, since I think the discussion is going to become more political than scientific, I put it here.

I think it would get the most traffic if the mods stick it in Ethics and morals forum.

Now, here's the question... if a paralyzed person is treated, and a year later is walking again... is anyone here going to change their current opinion about stem cell research?

It already has my support since their using stem cells from in vitro "left-overs"?

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[ImmortalTechnique]

hoooooray! morals are once again ruling over immoral political dogmatism masked as religion!

 

[blueapplepaste]

Great news!

 

[Criada]

Thread moved from Politics​

 

[Criada]

I don't agree with this research, the same can be achieved using umbilical stem cells from live births, which is a lot less ethically dubious.

 

[smos]

About time!

And Criada: first off, no, the same research cannot be done with umbilical stem cells. Second: the embryonic stem cells used in these studies are harvested from excess in-vitro fertilization material that would have gone to waste no matter what... how is it ethically dubious to save those cells - which would have been disposed of anyway - to help with research that has great promise to save lives and cure many diseases?

 

[Gilyon]

It already has my support since their using stem cells from in vitro "left-overs"?
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I think this just goes in one ear and out the other of people that opposed the research. I was so angry when Bush prohibited funding it... "Great, they won't be used for medical research. Into the trash bin instead!"

 

[Criada]

IMO there should not be 'leftovers' of this nature.. I know that it would be more difficult and costly, but nonetheless, producing potential humans just to 'dispose' of them or use them for research is not right.

 

[allhart]

All these years of research of death and no, not one improvement towards anything good has come of embryonic "baby" stem cell research. Not like adult stem cells...has.

 

[allhart]

And just because you think you can do it. Doesn't make it right.

 

[Gilyon]

IMO there should not be 'leftovers' of this nature.. I know that it would be more difficult and costly, but nonetheless, producing potential humans just to 'dispose' of them or use them for research is not right.

That may be true, but it's a different issue. As it stands, they're being thrown away and it would make more sense to use them for something. If we had to actively create them, my opinion on the matter might be different.

 

[tanzanos]

The reason Religions are afraid of Scientific advancement; can be found in the OT: See Tower of BABEL. Science will make God obsolete!

I knew Obama will do the right thing! Hooray

 

[Inviolable]

Science will make God obsolete!

That's funny,

400 years ago some guy said within 100 years that the bible will be something only seen in museums.

That's atheotic wishful thinking.
I think soon the word atheist will be replaced by Dawkenite.
That man has helped with organized atheism his entire adult life.

On a lighter note, I too am happy the research was approved.

 

[ranmaonehalf]

IMO there should not be 'leftovers' of this nature.. I know that it would be more difficult and costly, but nonetheless, producing potential humans just to 'dispose' of them or use them for research is not right.

humans do it all the time, men and women produced unused sperm and eggs that are potential humans all the time. you should really talk to the person who made such a wasteful design.

 

[tanzanos]

That's funny,

400 years ago some guy said within 100 years that the bible will be something only seen in museums.

That's atheotic wishful thinking.
I think soon the word atheist will be replaced by Dawkenite.
That man has helped with organized atheism his entire adult life.

On a lighter note, I too am happy the research was approved.

Ignorance is no excuse

 

[Polycarp_fan]

I couldn't decide if this should go in science or politics... however, since I think the discussion is going to become more political than scientific, I put it here.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/23/stem.cell/index.html


I don't know about anyone else... but I think this is awesome! I can't wait to see if this becomes a viable treatment for spinal injuries. If it does, there's that much more hope that it can be applied toward alzheimers and parkinsons.


Now, here's the question... if a paralyzed person is treated, and a year later is walking again... is anyone here going to change their current opinion about stem cell research?

Turning human beings into chemicals, pills and serums. Products for commerce and personal use.

Slave trade is back.




-----Scientists have been shown to do as much evil as they do good. Who can control what they do?


-\---------Medicine and WMD's from the same minds.

 

[tanzanos]

Turning human beings into chemicals, pills and serums.

I hate to break it to you but humans ARE made up of chemicals!


Elemental Composition of Human Body ( reductionism )
Major Elements Symbol Percentage (by weight)
Oxygen O 65.0
Carbon C 18.5
Hydrogen H 9.5
Nitrogen N 3.3
Calcium Ca 1.5
Phosphorus P 1.0
Potassium K 0.4
Sulfur S 0.3
Sodium Na 0.2
Chlorine Cl 0.2
Magnesium Mg 0.1

Trace Elements together
less than 0.1%

boron (B), chromium (Cr), cobalt (Co), copper (Cu), Fluorine (F), iodine (I), iron (Fe), manganese (Mn), molybdenum (Mo), selenium (Se), silicon (Si), tin(Sn), vanadium(V), & zinc(Zn).​

 

[Polycarp_fan]

The reason Religions are afraid of Scientific advancement; can be found in the OT: See Tower of BABEL. Science will make God obsolete!

How laughable that that perspective has life in it still.

I knew Obama will do the right thing! Horra

By killing unborn children and turning them into chemicals for his rich Hollywood supporters to find one more year of young face.

And horror is spelled h o r r o r.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

I hate to break it to you but humans ARE made up of chemicals!

Elemental Composition of Human Body ( reductionism )
Major Elements Symbol Percentage (by weight)
Oxygen O 65.0
Carbon C 18.5
Hydrogen H 9.5
Nitrogen N 3.3
Calcium Ca 1.5
Phosphorus P 1.0
Potassium K 0.4
Sulfur S 0.3
Sodium Na 0.2
Chlorine Cl 0.2
Magnesium Mg 0.1

Trace Elements together
less than 0.1%

boron (B), chromium (Cr), cobalt (Co), copper (Cu), Fluorine (F), iodine (I), iron (Fe), manganese (Mn), molybdenum (Mo), selenium (Se), silicon (Si), tin(Sn), vanadium(V), & zinc(Zn).​

OK breaking them down into chemicals for sale.

Worse then slavery.

So you are one leftist desiring to be honest about turning humans into products. Pills, medicines and creams.

I knew Obama would draw away the masks. The boldness coming to light.

And who said that liberals always use spin and deception?

Obviously not.

Not all the time anyway.