FBI: Black Identity Extremists Bigger Threat than Al Qaeda or White Supremacists

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Ahhh, so the old "if black people get something that white people don't get it's a horrible injustice" approach! That's interesting. Enjoy the privilege of getting bent over not getting just everything. I'm sure the people of color all over the US who statistically have it much worse than people like me who are white feel all sortsa bad about white people not getting the respect they deserve on occasion.

You lost your argument the moment you invoked the racist invective, privilege.
 
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"Supremacy." You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means.

"Supremacy" means "We are on top, we control everything. Everything. We are the dominant culture. Everyone else does what we command and permit."

There are no black supremacy groups.
Supremacy
Or, it means radical racist blacks aspire to supremacy. Black Nationalists, Black Supremacy, is also known as Black Pride. (Think of the converse if someone disagrees that is evidence of black racism. "White Supremacy" "White Pride". If those labels are indicative of white racism ....)

Black Nationalist


It is naive to think there are no black supremacy groups. As naive as thinking there is no radical black racist hate rap or black supremacy rap on the market.
(language)
(Now if you don't think that qualifies as black supremacy lyrics just interject, white, where black is spoken. If that were on the net it would qualify as white supremacy.)
(language)

Black Supremacists, Black Nationalists, Black Pride, is easy to find on the net.
 
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All forms of supremacy are evil. The vitriol is abominable. If you’re in the company of someone who feels comfortable unburdening themselves by speaking honestly you’ll quick see its source. It is demonic irrespective of race or cause. We are not to esteem ourselves more than we ought.
 
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You lost your argument the moment you invoked the racist invective, privilege.

I didn't lose the argument. Probably because I understand what the word "statistics" means.

But if you think people of color have exactly the same experience as white people in the US then you must ride a unicorn to work.
 
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But if you think people of color have exactly the same experience as white people in the US then you must ride a unicorn to work.

I am feeling envious of being able to ride the unicorn. <3 <3 <3
 
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Communism and socialism haven't killed anyone???

In the US in the last decade? Not really. Certainly nothing like the body count of white supremacists and right wing ideologues.
 
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I am feeling envious of being able to ride the unicorn. <3 <3 <3

Agreed. I wish that I rode a unicorn to my job at the unicorn zoo. Unfortunately I can actually read so my rainbow-tinged view of the world is rather more grey now.
 
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I see that false narrative created by some media outlets is still making its rounds.

President's quotes regarding Charlottesville 2017:

“We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for, there is no place for this kind of violence in America. Let’s come together as one!” Trump wrote via Twitter, as deadly race riots rocked Charlottesville, Va. “We must remember this truth: No matter our color, creed, religion, or political party, we are ALL AMERICANS FIRST.” — Aug. 12, 2017 — 10:19 a.m.

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence, on many sides,” Trump told journalists, after neo-Nazi motorist James Alex Fields Jr. plowed into a crowd of anti-KKK protesters, killing Heather Heyer. “We have to come together as Americans with love for our nation and true affection — really — and I say this so strongly — true affection for each other.” — August 12, 2017 — 3:33 p.m.

“Racism is evil,” Trump said. “And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.” — August 14, 2017

There were “very fine people, on both sides,” in Charlottesville, “protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee,” Trump said
. He specified:I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists — because they should be condemned totally.” He also called them “rough, bad people.” — August 15, 2017

Poor Trump. The guy has a 40 year history of racism and no one can give him credit for being a racist anymore. He started back in the 1970's when he kept black people out of his rental properties. And he's spent most of the last 40+ years continuing to be a racist. But now everyone wants to take his racist card away!
 
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You know I'm curious as to how many white supremacists and white nationalists some folks think are in this country anyway, and just exactly who they align themselves with politically? :scratch:

(This should be interesting)...

Numerically they are small, but they tend to be much more violent.

And in 2016 they RESOUNDINGLY aligned themselves with Trump. David Duke was a big Trump fan. The White Supremacists liked what Trump was saying and why not? Trump was saying almost exactly the same things they've been saying for decades.
 
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In the US in the last decade? Not really. Certainly nothing like the body count of white supremacists and right wing ideologues.
Isny the issue the ideologys that pratice genocide? The people are nothing without the ideologys they back
 
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In the US in the last decade? Not really. Certainly nothing like the body count of white supremacists and right wing ideologues.
There's a difference between Right wing ideologues and white supremacists. Sad you don't know that.

Gregory95 said:
Communism and socialism haven't killed anyone???

SammyClifnote: In the US in the last decade? Not really. Certainly nothing like the body count of white supremacists and right wing ideologues.

You really don't know anything about history. That statement proved it.
 
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You know I'm curious as to how many white supremacists and white nationalists some folks think are in this country anyway, and just exactly who they align themselves with politically? :scratch:

(This should be interesting)...
I don’t think there are that many but the few that do exist pose a bigger threat to me and people like me than they do to people who look like them. So I have to take it seriously.
 
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Hmm. What I read is that those groups are given top priority under the Trump administration.
NOT that they are the biggest threat.

Be honest with your titles.

A more honest title may be "trump white house prioritizes black identity extremists group and animal rights activists over actual events and groups with members that commit violence."
 
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There's a difference between Right wing ideologues and white supremacists. Sad you don't know that.

Want to explain it to me?

Gregory95 said:
Communism and socialism haven't killed anyone???

SammyClifnote: In the US in the last decade? Not really. Certainly nothing like the body count of white supremacists and right wing ideologues.

You really don't know anything about history. That statement proved it.

And if you had any real examples you'd be providing them instead of insulting me.

I see what you are doing. ;)
 
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Hmm. What I read is that those groups are given top priority under the Trump administration.
NOT that they are the biggest threat.

Be honest with your titles.

A more honest title may be "trump white house prioritizes black identity extremists group and animal rights activists over actual events and groups with members that commit violence."

That was my general impression as well.
 
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Numerically they are small, but they tend to be much more violent.

And in 2016 they RESOUNDINGLY aligned themselves with Trump. David Duke was a big Trump fan. The White Supremacists liked what Trump was saying and why not? Trump was saying almost exactly the same things they've been saying for decades.
Louis Farrakhan liked Obama. Did not hold that against our former President.

His pastor was a bigot too. Did not hold that against him.

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So I’m sure you have chummy photos of Trump with the racist Duke and others?

“Six Degrees of Separation” and Kevin Bacon is so 90s.
 
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Louis Farrakhan liked Obama. Did not hold that against our former President.

Really? Seems like you are doing just that right now.

His pastor was a bigot too. Did not hold that against him.

So you say. And again, you seem to be holding it against Obama and unlike most Republicans I actually remember the 8 straight years of the Republicans howling bloody blue murder over Obama's "pastor".

Huh. I guess for you guys history DID begin 2016.

So I’m sure you have chummy photos of Trump with the racist Duke and others?

Nope, I just was answering the other poster who asked if the White Nationalists supported Trump and they did!

I don't hold Trump personally responsible for the fact that bad people support him, but why do you think they support him? I'd say it was because Trump calls Mexicans rapists, Trump has been charged by the US government for discriminatory housing and there are many, many examples of Trump's racist rhetoric over the decades. Trump says many of the very same things the White Nationalists and NeoNazis have been saying for years!

So maybe Trump doesn't like David Duke but he says things David Duke really likes. Which I do call a good sign of racism.
 
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