Family of 11-year-old boy who died in Texas cold snap file $100m lawsuit against power companies

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Former TX State Rep Jason Isaacs says ERCOT waited to initiate rolling black outs, allowing line voltages to drop and trip power plants offline. Then, the next morning, when they finally did initiate rolling black outs, they rolled those black outs over the "Permian Basin" natural gas field and all of its gas supply, which plummeted 75%

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We don’t actually know the whole picture yet. I’ve read through about half of the 350-page report on the 2011 event. Without a similar investigation, it’s reasonable to think that the same kinds of things happened this time.

Generators failed for many reasons. One was lack of fuel (e.g. gas), but that wan’t the major cause. Mostly it was directly or indirectly caused by the weather.

Similarly, production of gas was down for several reasons. One was rolling blackouts. Apparently ERCOT delegates a certain amount of load to shed to the next lower level. At least in 2011, neither ERCOT nor those levels always knows what parts of their system supply gas generation. At any rate, that was only one of three major problems. Suprisingly (at least to me) anther major one was icy roads. There are things that have to be done on site regularly. If staff can’t get to a gas well, it may shut down automatically.

Obviously I don’t have full information on this year’s event. But I would suggest to you that either does Jason Isaacs. What he described surely happened. It happened in 2011. But jumping to it as the major cause is just as suspicious as jumping on frozen windmills.

The mainstream press has described the problem as failure to learn the lessons of the 2011 event. We won’t know for sure for some time, but I’d be willing to wager that they are right. I’d also be willing to bet that most of the failures could reasonably be classified as failure to winterize, almost by definition, since winterizing means taking the precautions needed to prevent failures due to low temperatures. That would include, in my view, separating out power to gas wells so that they don’t get caught in blackouts, just as other critical customers are protected. That was one of the recommendations of the report on the 2011 event.
 
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It may indeed be too early to tell exactly how Texas went so wrong with this ice storm.

However, I think there are things we already know: that deregulation because you don't trust "gummint" lines the pockets of your rich buddies, but doesn't do a scrap of good for the citizens who rely on continuous power and heat during a storm.

I also think that we've learned that a lot of top-tier Texas politicians (Abbott and Cruz, looking at you two) are useless and completely uncaring about their fellow citizens....until a fire is lit under their rather large behinds to get something done.

I'm trying to imagine being a senator or governor of my state and going on Fox News to complain about windmills or taking a trip to Cancun while children freeze to death in their beds. I can't do it because I'm not a sociopath.
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deregulation because you don't trust "gummint" lines the pockets of your rich buddies
Leave regulation to the same folks who passed the "Equality Act" allowing schools to take children away from parents who oppose those schools administering puberty blockers to any deemed to have expressed a transgender identity?

Even as they decry "taking children away from parents" at the border?
 
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Leave regulation to the same folks who passed the "Equality Act" allowing schools to take children away from parents who oppose those schools administering puberty blockers to any deemed to have expressed a transgender identity?

Even as they decry "taking children away from parents" at the border?
Schools don't administer puberty blockers, or any other medicine.
 
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Show me a battery, or even a series of them that can power thousands of homes and businesses reliably through a week of inclement weather.
The wind blows during inclement weather.
 
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Leave regulation to the same folks who passed the "Equality Act" allowing schools to take children away from parents who oppose those schools administering puberty blockers to any deemed to have expressed a transgender identity?

Even as they decry "taking children away from parents" at the border?
Where do you get your disinformation?
 
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The customers will pay dearly for those upgrades. The city upgraded the sewer main on my street. My assessment was $2000.

So your alternative is to do nothing and let the power continue to fail?

if you received a $2000 property tax bill because your sewer was upgraded, maybe the problem is your tax system.
 
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So your alternative is to do nothing and let the power continue to fail?

if you received a $2000 property tax bill because your sewer was upgraded, maybe the problem is your tax system.

I should clarify. The street in question was in front of my commercial property (apartment building). I don't think ordinary residential neighborhoods would have been charged this much.
 
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I should clarify. The street in question was in front of my commercial property (apartment building). I don't think ordinary residential neighborhoods would have been charged this much.

Still seems strange. The only way I would be charged anything for upgrades on an investment property is if I re-developed it - then the council might hit me for storm water upgrades to accommodate additional runoff, or for some minor public works such as building a footpath in front of it (assuming there wasn't one there). Otherwise general taxes already pay for those upgrades.
 
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