You said: "No man can destroy the word of God--His word is power. Even the elements obey His voice, it is the creative force that can create from nothing. We serve a powerful God., not some namby pamby weakling that can't even produce children made of His same substance. Ours did---and He didn't need wives to do it."
The Bible does not say God created the universe out of nothing. Rather it says:
(Old Testament | Proverbs 26:10)
10 The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.
Neither did God create man out of nothing:
(Old Testament | Genesis 1:27)
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
(Old Testament | Genesis 2:7)
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
So what is His substance? Tell me if you know. What does the creed say?:
Very God of very God,
Begotten, not made,
Being of one substance with the Father,
By whom all things were made;
What does the Bible say:
(New Testament | Luke 24:39 - 40)
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
Therefore the Father and the Son both have flesh and bones.
Ps 90:2
Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God.
Gen 1:1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Ps 33:6
By the word of the Lord were the heavens made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth.
Is 45:18
For this is what the Lord says— he who created the heavens, he is God;
he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it;
he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited—
Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
Psa 89:11 The heavens are thine, the earth also is thine: as for the world and the fulness thereof, thou hast founded them.
Psa 89:12 The north and the south thou hast created them: Tabor and Hermon shall rejoice in thy name.
Psa 148:2 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.
Psa 148:3 Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.
Psa 148:4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.
Psa 148:5 Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created.
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Neh 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Heb 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
"Science is now coming to the conclusion that all things are actually created out of the invisible, which they call "nothing." In an article in
Scientific American titled "The Inflationary Universe," the following statement was written:
From a historical point of view probably the most revolutionary aspect of the inflationary model is the notion that all matter and energy in the observable universe may have
emerged from almost nothing.
The inflationary model of the universe provides a possible mechanism by which the observed universe could have evolved from an infinitesimal region. It is then tempting to go one step further and
speculate that the entire universe evolved from literally nothing.
The following comment was found in the
New Scientist in an article by Harold Pathoff, titled "Everything for Nothing:"
"And now to the biggest question of all, where did the Universe come from? Or, in modern terminology, what started the big bang? Could quantum fluctuations of empty space have something to do with this as well? Edward Tyron of the City University of New York thought so in 1973 when he proposed that our Universe may have originated as a fluctuation of the vacuum on a large scale, as "simply one of those things which happen from time to time." This idea was later refined and updated within the context of inflationary cosmology by Alexander Vilenkin of Tufts University, who proposed that the universe is created by quantum tunneling from literally nothing into the something we call the Universe.
Edward Tyron, a professor of physics, wrote the following in
New Scientist volume 101:
In 1973, I proposed that our Universe had been created spontaneously from nothing (
ex nihilo), as a result of established principles of physics. This proposal variously struck people as preposterous, enchanting, or both.
You go right ahead and hold on to your ineffectual god who can't create from nothing. OUR GOD CAN AND DID. But that, as Hebrews says---takes FAITH, and obviously---Mormons do not have it. and without faith:
Heb_11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
And Jesus was God with the Father before He became flesh and bones---they were both of the same substance then. JESUS BECAME HUMAN IN ORDER TO SAVE US---APPARENTLY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE FAITH TO BELIEVE THAT EITHER.
We do not worship the same Godhead. Prayers that you find our, the REAL all powerful God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost.
