FactChecking Trump’s Medicare Op-Ed

[Allandavid]

But I don't think that is your meaning.

None of that is free tho. Someone pays for it. Usually thru loans or taxes. All of which comes from capitalism.

And no one is suggesting that free enterprise should disappear. But, many services are better organised and funded from a centralised, socialised system. Your armed services, your education system, your highways, your police forces, your border control...all of these function better as part of a socialised system.

And so does health care...

 

[iluvatar5150]

Well in all honesty I built the library, not the entire school. I also built redlobster, and our local Target. If you live in a Pulte, Lennar, or Beazer home in Clermont between 2000 to 2008 more than likely I was part of building it, and it was my crew. I also worked on the 419 interchange from the Florida turnpike, did some rod busting, rigging, and ran a concrete boom. so I guess that would be the part I built. Don't think I have ever sponsored a hospital tho. I build a helipad once. Does that count?

That interchange is a socialist project.

None of that is free tho. Someone pays for it. Usually thru loans or taxes. All of which comes from capitalism.

Paying for something with taxes is your idea of capitalism?

Come on, man. Now you're just making things up.

 

[Gene2memE]

Take the time to read. Socialism is the policy used to bring a nation into communism.

That's A definition of socialism, but its far from the only one. The idea of socialism as a transitory phase to communism is almost exclusively a Marxist one. Specifically a Classical Marxist one, as its not so common in most modern strains of Marxist thought.

However, as socialism predates Marx (by more than a century), and as his view of socialism is neither prescriptive or descriptive, but both aspirational and built on 1840s economic and social models, I reject that definition.

Modern social democrats, democratic socialists, ethical socialists, libertarian socialists and distributivists DONT view socialism as a transitory phase - they view it as an economic mode in its own right.

None of that is free tho. Someone pays for it. Usually thru loans or taxes. All of which comes from capitalism.

Errrm, loans and taxes occur in non-capitalist economies.

 

[Speedwell]

And no one is suggesting that free enterprise should disappear. But, many services are better organised and funded from a centralised, socialised system. Your armed services, your education system, your highways, your police forces, your border control...all of these function better as part of a socialised system.

And so does health care...

I think you will find that, for the most part, US Conservatives aren't interested in technicalities like that. "Socialism" is just a word to describe any government program which gives money or assistance to people they don't think deserve it.

 

[High Fidelity]

Take the time to read. Socialism is the policy used to bring a nation into communism.

College football is the path to the NFL, but that doesn't make college football the NFL does it ..

 

[LostMarbels]

This all sounds great. I still want to know he we can afford it. Im reading up on it.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I don't see it as an addition 32 trillion on top of what is spent now. We spend almost that already, from what I read.

 

[Speedwell]

I don't see it as an addition 32 trillion on top of what is spent now. We spend almost that already, from what I read.

We spend 33 trillion now, as far as I can find out.

 

[Allandavid]

This all sounds great. I still want to know he we can afford it. Im reading up on it.

Knowledge is power...