Fact-checking 22 claims from Donald Trump's Axios interview

disciple Clint

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what has trump DONE? It's been 4-6 months since this started, and he's NOW doing something, the guy isn't doing anything to actually help and neither are you yes men.
Glad you asked because when we do get a vaccine for covid it will be because Trump fast tracked the research by waiving federal regulations. Dr Fauci stated that Trump saved tens of thousands of lives by implementing travel bans. NYC was provided with medical personnel, two hospitals and a hospital ship, along with all the ventilators they requested. Calif got everything they requested and a hospital ship. I could go on but you fail to inform yourself of the facts and then you say that Trump has done nothing.
 
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Glad you asked because when we do get a vaccine for covid it will be because Trump fast tracked the research by waiving federal regulations. Dr Fauci stated that Trump saved tens of thousands of lives by implementing travel bans. NYC was provided with medical personnel, two hospitals and a hospital ship, along with all the ventilators they requested. Calif got everything they requested and a hospital ship. I could go on but you fail to inform yourself of the facts and then you say that Trump has done nothing.

thats assuming the vaccine doesn't cause more harm because it was so fast tracked beyond saftey regulations, and yeah....what about all the lives he's lost by not increasing production of PPE, and testing, by not demanding masks, by spending 3 months downplaying the severity of the disease, by in his own words trying to get them to stop testing because it made him look bad.
 
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thats assuming the vaccine doesn't cause more harm because it was so fast tracked beyond saftey regulations, and yeah....what about all the lives he's lost by not increasing production of PPE, and testing, by not demanding masks, by spending 3 months downplaying the severity of the disease, by in his own words trying to get them to stop testing because it made him look bad.
Those are good questions, why dont you ask the experts who told him that there was nothing to be concerned about and the masks were not need by the general public, and that it was a bad idea to have a travel ban, would you like me to go on?
 
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Those are good questions, why dont you ask the experts who told him that there was nothing to be concerned about and the masks were not need by the general public, and that it was a bad idea to have a travel ban, would you like me to go on?

Want me to point out those are 4-5 months ago, whats he done since to actually improve? Masks have been known for months, travel ban was bad idea, HIS travel ban was a bad idea, when he didn't ban the placs the US ALREADY GOT THE DISEASE FROm, and just banned from China because reasons. You guys love to harp about 4 months ago, okay sure your right they screwed up, whats trump excuse for still not doing anything?
 
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Want me to point out those are 4-5 months ago, whats he done since to actually improve? Masks have been known for months, travel ban was bad idea, HIS travel ban was a bad idea, when he didn't ban the placs the US ALREADY GOT THE DISEASE FROm, and just banned from China because reasons. You guys love to harp about 4 months ago, okay sure your right they screwed up, whats trump excuse for still not doing anything?
What exactly is he not doing that you think he should do? Do you have any specific recommendations? I believe that if someone is going to complain they should at least be able to provide some positive suggestions.
 
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What exactly is he not doing that you think he should do? Do you have any specific recommendations? I believe that if someone is going to complain they should at least be able to provide some positive suggestions.

Ummmm well it's been months since masks were recomended why did it take till just weeks ago for him to actually use them and not act like he should avoid them? Maybe stop trying to force schools and the border open, require masks country wide among other things.
 
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Ummmm well it's been months since masks were recomended why did it take till just weeks ago for him to actually use them and not act like he should avoid them? Maybe stop trying to force schools and the border open, require masks country wide among other things.
Is that what your post was about? The president operates in a very controlled environment so his exposure is limited, he is checked daily for infection so those around him have limited exposure from him at least. Telling the states what to do as far as issuing a national policy of masks would be counter productive. Regarding the opening of schools we are operating on a delicate balance here between killing people from a bad economy and killing people by not limiting exposure, to complicate that children have a different susceptibility to the virus than adults. Many people would like to return to work but childcare is a problem for them. So schools is a difficult call and the best thing he can do is encourage governors to open schools and save the economy, unfortunately this is complicated because of political issues. The job is just not as easy as it looks.
 
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Is that what your post was about? The president operates in a very controlled environment so his exposure is limited, he is checked daily for infection so those around him have limited exposure from him at least. Telling the states what to do as far as issuing a national policy of masks would be counter productive. Regarding the opening of schools we are operating on a delicate balance here between killing people from a bad economy and killing people by not limiting exposure, to complicate that children have a different susceptibility to the virus than adults. Many people would like to return to work but childcare is a problem for them. So schools is a difficult call and the best thing he can do is encourage governors to open schools and save the economy, unfortunately this is complicated because of political issues. The job is just not as easy as it looks.

it's not complicated, people are dying, he should do his job, the fact he never pushed for a full shutdown, has activly been countermining any attempts to slow the spread is killing the economy far more then any shutdown would have.
 
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it's not complicated, people are dying, he should do his job, the fact he never pushed for a full shutdown, has activly been countermining any attempts to slow the spread is killing the economy far more then any shutdown would have.
I do not know what you consider a full shutdown but we came as close as I would ever want to come. Just face it you do not like Trump what he does or does not do has little to nothing to do with it.
 
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I do not know what you consider a full shutdown but we came as close as I would ever want to come. Just face it you do not like Trump what he does or does not do has little to nothing to do with it.

Oh grow up, you guys really are childish with those insults, "Oh you just hate trump." funny how most of the rest of the world was able to handle covid without messing up their economies, yet you guys both havn't fixed it and messed up your economy. Your economy is dead, because you guys don't care to do whats needed, your too scared to hurt the economy you will kill it.
 
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Oh grow up, you guys really are childish with those insults, "Oh you just hate trump." funny how most of the rest of the world was able to handle covid without messing up their economies, yet you guys both havn't fixed it and messed up your economy. Your economy is dead, because you guys don't care to do whats needed, your too scared to hurt the economy you will kill it.
Our economy is far from dead. Inform yourself if you are going to be critical about someone or their country.
 
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Glad you asked because when we do get a vaccine for covid it will be because Trump fast tracked the research by waiving federal regulations. Dr Fauci stated that Trump saved tens of thousands of lives by implementing travel bans. NYC was provided with medical personnel, two hospitals and a hospital ship, along with all the ventilators they requested. Calif got everything they requested and a hospital ship. I could go on but you fail to inform yourself of the facts and then you say that Trump has done nothing.
COVID-19 STATISTICS (AUGUST 7, 2020)

UNITED STATES
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new cases - 63,246

COVID-19 deaths - 1,290

CANADA
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new cases - 424

COVID-19 deaths - 4

CANADA (adjusted 8.7X)
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new cases - 424 X 8.7 = 3,868

COVID-19 deaths - 4 X 8.7 = 35

Coronavirus Update (Live): 19,811,747 Cases and 729,661 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
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The data comes from Friday August 7th on the Worldometers Coronavirus site!

Canada shares 5250 miles of border with the Unites States, the Canadian figures have been multiplied by 8.7 to account for the differences in population and to allow for direct comparisons!

If President Trump was making such an effective effort in combating COVID-19 as "Disciple Clint" suggests, how does one account for the glaring discrepancies between the 2 nations in terms of new cases (63,246 vs 3,868) and COVID-19 deaths (1,290 vs 35) - given that the Canadian data has been adjusted to allow for direct comparisons?
 
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COVID-19 STATISTICS (AUGUST 7, 2020)

UNITED STATES
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new cases - 63,246

COVID-19 deaths - 1,290

CANADA
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new cases - 424

COVID-19 deaths - 4

CANADA (adjusted 8.7X)
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new cases - 424 X 8.7 = 3,868

COVID-19 deaths - 4 X 8.7 = 35

Coronavirus Update (Live): 19,811,747 Cases and 729,661 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
*********************************************************************************************************************************************
The data comes from Friday August 7th on the Worldometers Coronavirus site!

Canada shares 5250 miles of border with the Unites States, the Canadian figures have been multiplied by 8.7 to account for the differences in population and to allow for direct comparisons!

If President Trump was making such an effective effort in combating COVID-19 as "Disciple Clint" suggests, how does one account for the glaring discrepancies between the 2 nations in terms of new cases (63,246 vs 3,868) and COVID-19 deaths (1,290 vs 35) - given that the Canadian data has been adjusted to allow for direct comparisons?
Looking at other factor such as population density, the number of people entering and leaving the country, social norms, and various other factors would change those results. It is very difficult to make a direct comparison between the U.S. and other countries.
 
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