Ezekiel's Temple: why are we still not building?

[Torah Keeper]

It is possible the prince is the high priest. And it is possible Yeshua actually did enter this very gate during His ministry. This gate may actually still exist. It has been closed up with bricks. And there is a theory that Yeshua will open it and pass through when He returns.

And Israel had kings all the way up to the NT era. If you mean soverign kings, not under other nations, then that ended with the Hasmonean dynasty when they were conquered by their long trusted allies, the Romans.

I am not a big fan of Indian food.

 

[Humble Penny]

It is possible the prince is the high priest. And it is possible Yeshua actually did enter this very gate during His ministry. This gate may actually still exist. It has been closed up with bricks. And there is a theory that Yeshua will open it and pass through when He returns.

And Israel had kings all the way up to the NT era. If you mean soverign kings, not under other nations, then that ended with the Hasmonean dynasty when they were conquered by their long trusted allies, the Romans.

I am not a big fan of Indian food.

Lol! I can't contain my laughter anymore ha ha ha...oh man...from the release of the Jews from Babylon to the end of the Ptolemies name one king from the line of Judah who ruled over Israel? Also Herod the great himself was not a Jew but an Edomite and setup as a puppet king by Augustus Caesar...he was not anointed by the priest and chosen by God...the throne of David remaining vacant after Zedekiah was so that Christ could sit in it. And this is just basic Torah and history.

Simon during the period of the Maccabbees came closest to being called a king or prince, but in the end he only held the title of high priest. And basic knowledge of the Torah shows that the high priest was never a prince or a king according to the order of Aaron, which means that only those after the order of Melchizedek could accomplish such a thing: and Yeshua the Messiah is that very person.

 

[Torah Keeper]

On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land," (Ezekiel 45:22)

I think this site has some good evidence as to why the prince may not be Messiah:

Orthodox Messianic Judaism: The Mysterious "Prince" of Ezekiel: Is it Yeshua or David?

And the Hebrew words for prince and king do not always have modern literal meanings. They can simply mean ruler.

 

[Humble Penny]

On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land," (Ezekiel 45:22)

I think this site has some good evidence as to why the prince may not be Messiah:

Orthodox Messianic Judaism: The Mysterious "Prince" of Ezekiel: Is it Yeshua or David?

And the Hebrew words for prince and king do not always have modern literal meanings. They can simply mean ruler.

Alright it is clear that while you have a strong interest in God and Yeshua you do not have a strong grasp on the basics and it shows in you not being firmly rooted in the source text i.e. the Word of God.

I can tell you right away that link you cited from the title alone is incorrect and the writer of it has no idea what they're talking about. For God already told David that if He kept His statutes and ordinances that He would cause the kingdom to be with him forever, however this is not the case with his sin with Batsheba and the murder of her husband Uriah. God also explicitly told David that because he had too much blood on his hands from war he was not qualified to build the Temple, and that his son Solomon would do so: and this was fulfilled as God said it would be. Now seeing that none of the kings could perfectly keep the Law of God that leaves Yeshua the Messiah to be the one and only qualified candidate.

As for the passage you cited clearly there is a higher purpose for the sacrifices. Many stumble on the issue of sacrifices for sin occuring in the millenium becuase they do not understand that Jesus dying for the sins of the world did not eliminate any of the functions associated with the priesthood. And the promise of Jesus to His apostles that He would not eat of the Passover or drink of the new wine until the Kingdom of God shall come: this undeniably means that Jesus will still be eating Passover and observing the other feasts even though He fulfilled the meanings of them; and if this isn't enough evidence then the disciples should not have continued to observe the feasts of God after Christ ascended into heaven...but it is clear that this is not the case at all. And on top of keeping the Law of Moses perfectly Jesus' MIllenial Kingdom would also expose all of the false teachers and prophets who spoke wrongly of the Word of God, and through the living exmple of Yeshua the Messiah we can see firsthand just how the Law of Moses was to be carried out and how the prophets were to be understood. And during the reign of Christ on earth there will still be many sinners who will need to be properly educated on matters relating to the Law and the Prophets.

To believe in anything different than this is to fall into the same error as those who proclaim that the death of Christ did away with the Law of Moses. For if their folly were true then they should not be condemning anyone of breaking the Ten Commandments nor of any sin for the Law of Moses according to such ignorant people ceased to be in effect with the death of Christ.

 

[ProtectionET]

Daniel's Last Week and the Third Temple in 2023:

 

[ProtectionET]

The Third Temple for the Second Coming and Rapture of the Church:

 

[ProtectionET]

The Third Temple according to the prophecy of Ezekiel:

 

[FredVB]

I see some of the passages on the temple are prophetic, and some of it was Yahweh's commandment for the people of Israel to build, which they failed at, and so the prophecies wait, until it is built. It will be, even if it waits until Christ returns.

 

[daq]

Lol! I can't contain my laughter anymore ha ha ha...oh man...from the release of the Jews from Babylon to the end of the Ptolemies name one king from the line of Judah who ruled over Israel? Also Herod the great himself was not a Jew but an Edomite and setup as a puppet king by Augustus Caesar...he was not anointed by the priest and chosen by God...the throne of David remaining vacant after Zedekiah was so that Christ could sit in it. And this is just basic Torah and history.

Simon during the period of the Maccabbees came closest to being called a king or prince, but in the end he only held the title of high priest. And basic knowledge of the Torah shows that the high priest was never a prince or a king according to the order of Aaron, which means that only those after the order of Melchizedek could accomplish such a thing: and Yeshua the Messiah is that very person.

What? The chief priest was always called the Nasiy, which means prince, and he was often the head of the Sanhedrin. In the days of Ananus and Kaiaphas Ananus ben Seth was likely the Ab-beit-din, (father of the court, chief of the court, chief justice, i.e. "vice president", etc.), while Kaiaphas as chief priest would have been the Nasiy-Prince. This was understood from the Torah.

In the following passage the Elohim are the Judges, (from the same passage, Exodus 22:8-9, where the Elohim are clearly the Judges), and "the ruler of thy people" is the Nasiy-Prince of the congregation, the chief priest.

Exodus 22:28 KJV
28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, [elohim-judges] nor curse the ruler [nasiy-prince] of thy people.

Acts 23:4
4 οι δε παρεστωτες ειπαν τον αρχιερεα του θεου λοιδορεις

 

[FredVB]

Romans 10:12-15
For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written:
“How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, who bring glad tidings of good things!”

Within Christ there is no distinction among us between Jews and gentiles, men and women, or those barefoot and those not. Yahweh values us all the same, and there is purpose Yahweh has for each of us, in Christ.

The temple of Ezekiel's description still is yet to be built. Not even that will save civilization from its coming collapse.

 

[Rachel Rachel]

The Third Temple will be built by Christians and Messianic Jews, or this Temple will never be built by anyone, but then the Scripture will not come true.

There are drawings, there is a draft project. The place where the Temple will be built is known, this place is not occupied by any buildings. The question is when this Temple will be built is a matter of time. Certainly there will be people who will build this Temple, because it is quite a simple matter. But when this Temple is built, then there will be a Judgment over the rest of the religion that did not build the Temple: how Christians will react to this Temple, whether they will come to worship God, or they will blaspheme this Temple and those who come to this Temple from all nations.

I know that this post is extremely old but on the outside chance that it might be seen...don't you think that the 3rd temple will come down with New Jerusalem?? I don't think it will be built by the hands of men.

 

[Laureate]

I know that this post is extremely old but on the outside chance that it might be seen...don't you think that the 3rd temple will come down with New Jerusalem?? I don't think it will be built by the hands of men.

Angels, Prophets, and Anointed Saints (such as the 144,000 Virgins aka Elect) may appear as mere Men, but in the eyes of Heaven they are deemed Alôʰhéyîm, No Man.

....she was a Virgin, for No Man had Known her....

Those who have not been defiled by Women are also deemed Virgins (which may also include those who are Celibate, Eunuchs, etc.)

Notwithstanding you are correct the temple is not built by the hands of Men, for we (by the Grace of Yaʰ) are the Temple which comes down from Heaven as Yᵊsʰûʷəʰ came down from Heaven through the Womb.

Those who retain their Crown in the Resurrection will become pillars (permanent fixtures) in the Temple of Alôʰhéyîm, and those who Love the name of Yᵊhûʷəh, Keep his Sabbaths and Take hold of his Covenant will be brought to his House of Péléʰ (Prayer) and become Studs (permanent fixtures) within it's Walls.

 

[FredVB]

...don't you think that the 3rd temple will come down with New Jerusalem?? I don't think it will be built by the hands of men.

There is the new Jerusalem, with its inhabitants being known as the bride of Christ, having a height of hundreds of miles with its peak in the skies, far higher than any mountain, that does reach down from heaven that way, on the new earth, the restoration God our Creator brings into being in place of this, the fallen world of God's creation. Still, the temple depicted in the writings of Ezekiel were with careful measurements given, as requirement for those who were of Israel to build, for prophecies that went with it to be fulfilled. They yet failed to build it. The prophecies with it were yet to come, so it must yet be built, in obedience to God requiring it. But this late, Christ is to be known as the absolutely only effective sacrifice, for atonement, for reconciliation of any of us to God, any other sacrifice of any life will be abhorrent to God. Jews will still start sacrificing then, but they would not be of the faith. Christ, returning to be king here, when prophecies are fulfilled, will put a stop to that.

 

[FredVB]

There will be a lot of responsibility from those of us remaining on this earth when Christ returns and reigns, here. All our civilization with all of us have been ruining the condition of this earth, and with the accountability of all who are still here, for the required stewardship, all will work under Christ for the restoration of this world, for it to be as well as it can be. All will have longer lives for that. Still the world just as it was meant to be, which all creation groans for, will only come with the new earth, afterward, with the redeemed who all repented and creation that groaned for it with them.

 

[visionary]

Think with the arrival of the red heifer there will be a renewed interest in building the temple.?

 

[Humble Penny]

Think with the arrival of the red heifer there will be a renewed interest in building the temple.?

There's definitely a stronger interest than before, and we see that the Temple mentioned by Ezekiel can only exist in the Millennial Kingdom be size it's dimensions far exceed the Temple Mount so the land will have to be reshaped at the return of Yeshua Messiah. If we look at the simple historical pattern in Scripture we see this:

Truth (Beginning)
Falsehood (Middle)
End (End)

First God and Yeshua created the world all began and was founded upon the Truth. Sometime after falsehood entered into the heart of Satan and he brought that to Adam and Eve: and this brought falsehood into the world. Finally when Yeshua returns He will restore all things in Truth and righteousness!

And then when you look at how the Jubilee works it occurs on the Day of Atonement in the 50th Year: at that time all things are restored to their original owners, debts are canceled, and sin is forgiven! Since Yeshua is our High Priest He will need a Fourth Temple to be built and He will then have to re-educate people on the Law and the Prophets.

 

[ICONO'CLAST]

This temple is the church,spreading the Kingdom worldwide

 

[visionary]

On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land," (Ezekiel 45:22)

I think this site has some good evidence as to why the prince may not be Messiah:

Orthodox Messianic Judaism: The Mysterious "Prince" of Ezekiel: Is it Yeshua or David?

And the Hebrew words for prince and king do not always have modern literal meanings. They can simply mean ruler.

That is the bull, not a red heifer..

 

[visionary]

This temple is the church,spreading the Kingdom worldwide

Not Messiah theology, congregations and temples are two different aspects of service.

 

[ICONO'CLAST]

Not Messiah theology, congregations and temples are two different aspects of service.

It is when the Messiah Himself is the head of it. The ot.types served their purpose and are now done away.