Ezekiel's Detailed Vision of the Future - Jesus Millennial Temple

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There will be a third temple built in Jerusalem, the Antichrist will set up an abomination that desolates in, according to the Scriptures. Jesus will build the fourth, Millennial temple, according to the Scriptures. They will both be stone buildings. Prophecy iis not interpreted by allegorical spiritualization.
Utter nonsense, nowhere even hinted at in Scripture.
 
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FYI, without the Jewish sources, we would have no Bible today. Capiche?!
We'd have the New Testament, which it seems may have escaped your notice.
 
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There won't. This is simply a Dispensationalist delusion. The idea is blasphemous.

This is the result of making "Israel" the center of the universe rather than our Lord Christ. Y'all are abandoning Christianity to follow some pseudo-Jewish fantasy. How anyone who claims to follow Christ can believe that Christless Temple Judaism will return to replace the Church (talk about a diabolical form of "replacement theology"!) is beyond my ken. Read Hebrews 10! If you don't understand it, read it again! If you still don't understand it, try a different translation! Keep reading it until you get it. Read the whole epistle, it isn't that long! Understand that CHRIST IS THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING! NOT ISRAEL, NOT A NEW TEMPLE (OR AN OLD ONE), NOT ANYTHING IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, NO DAMNABLE BLASPHEMOUS UNHOLY UNCLEAN UNTHINKABLE ANIMAL SACRIFICES, NOTHING! Our Lord Christ is the Be All and End All!

This will NEVER be! The idea is abominable. CHRIST IS OUR SACRIFICE, ONCE AND FOR ALL!


How about EVIL and SATANIC? Here's a bit of what old Zeke had to say:

21In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten. 22And upon that day shall the prince prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering. 23And seven days of the feast he shall prepare a burnt offering to the LORD, seven bullocks and seven rams without blemish daily the seven days; and a kid of the goats daily for a sin offering.24And he shall prepare a meat offering of an ephah for a bullock, and an ephah for a ram, and an hin of oil for an ephah. 25In the seventh month, in the fifteenth day of the month, shall he do the like in the feast of the seven days, according to the sin offering, according to the burnt offering, and according to the meat offering, and according to the oil.

Same old offerings, and no mention of them being "memorials", which idea is ridiculous in any case.

A sheer fantasy, designed to make the idea of this fictional Temple that DFs dote on so much not seem like such rank heresy.

READ HEBREWS, and abandon this horrid deception!


Your above is the epitome of unsupported dogmatic opinion, without Scriptural support to verfy a single piece of it. The folloing is but the tip of the iceberg providing the Scriptures refuting the opinions you expressed in the above. Which has nothing whatever to do with dispensationalism. If the following is insufficient for you, mthere is much more from where it came from.

Will there be animal sacrifices during the millennial kingdom?


There are several passages in the Old Testament that clearly indicate animal sacrifice will be re-instituted during the millennial kingdom. Some passages mention it in passing as the topic of the millennial kingdom is discussed, passages like Isaiah 56:6-8; Zechariah 14:16; and Jeremiah 33:15-18.

The passage that is the most extensive, giving the greatest detail, is Ezekiel 43:18-46:24. It should be noted that this is part of a greater passage dealing with the millennial kingdom, a passage that begins with Ezekiel 40. In Ezekiel 40, the Lord begins to give details of the temple that will exist during the millennial kingdom, a temple that dwarfs all other temples previously built, even Herod’s temple that was quite large, which existed during the earthly ministry of Christ.

After giving details concerning the size and appearance of the temple and the altar, the Lord then begins to give detailed instruction as to the animal sacrifices that will be offered (Ezekiel 43:18-27). In chapter 44, the Lord gives instructions as to who will be offering sacrifices to the Lord. The Lord states that all of the Levites will not be offering blood and fat to the Lord due to previous sin; it will be those from the lineage of Zadok (verse 15). Chapters 45 and 46 continue to mention that animal sacrifices will be made.

The primary objection made to the idea of animal sacrifices returning during the millennial kingdom is that Christ has come and offered a perfect sacrifice for sin, and there is therefore no need to sacrifice animals for sin. However, it must be remembered that animal sacrifice never removed the sin that spiritually separated a person from the Lord.

Hebrews 10:1-4 says, “For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never by the same sacrifices year by year, which they offer continually, make perfect those who draw near. Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, because the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have had consciousness of sins? But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins year by year. For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins" (NASB).

It is incorrect to think that animal sacrifices took away sins in the Old Testament, and it is incorrect to think they will do so in the millennial kingdom. Animal sacrifices served as object lessons for the sinner, that sin was and is a horrible offense against God, and that the result of sin is death. Romans 3:20 says, “Because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.”

Most premillennial scholars agree that the purpose of animal sacrifice during the millennial kingdom is memorial in nature. As the Lord’s Supper is a reminder of the death of Christ to the Church today, animal sacrifices will be a reminder during the millennial kingdom. To those born during the millennial kingdom, animal sacrifices will again be an object lesson. During that future time, righteousness and holiness will prevail, but those with earthly bodies will still have a sin nature, and there will be a need to teach about how offensive sin is to a holy and righteous God. Animal sacrifices will serve that purpose, "but in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins year by year" (Hebrews 10:3).

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The preterist views you hold to have been refuted in my post #131. There will be a third temple built in Jerusalem, the Antichrist will set up an abomination that desolates in, according to the Scriptures. Jesus will build the fourth, Millennial temple, according to the Scriptures. They will both be stone buildings. Prophecy iis not interpreted by allegorical spiritualization.


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I'm going to tell you this one time and one time only!

I am not, nor have I ever been a preterist!

And I shall consider any more accusations as "off-topic".

History has shown that part, part, not all, but part of Mt. 24 and other books on the same thing, have been partially fulfilled.

Now, shall we continue to throw accusations around?

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There won't. This is simply a Dispensationalist delusion. The idea is blasphemous.

This is the result of making "Israel" the center of the universe rather than our Lord Christ. Y'all are abandoning Christianity to follow some pseudo-Jewish fantasy. How anyone who claims to follow Christ can believe that Christless Temple Judaism will return to replace the Church (talk about a diabolical form of "replacement theology"!) is beyond my ken. Read Hebrews 10! If you don't understand it, read it again! If you still don't understand it, try a different translation! Keep reading it until you get it. Read the whole epistle, it isn't that long! Understand that CHRIST IS THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING! NOT ISRAEL, NOT A NEW TEMPLE (OR AN OLD ONE), NOT ANYTHING IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, NO DAMNABLE BLASPHEMOUS UNHOLY UNCLEAN UNTHINKABLE ANIMAL SACRIFICES, NOTHING! Our Lord Christ is the Be All and End All!

This will NEVER be! The idea is abominable. CHRIST IS OUR SACRIFICE, ONCE AND FOR ALL!


How about EVIL and SATANIC? Here's a bit of what old Zeke had to say:

21In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten. 22And upon that day shall the prince prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering. 23And seven days of the feast he shall prepare a burnt offering to the LORD, seven bullocks and seven rams without blemish daily the seven days; and a kid of the goats daily for a sin offering.24And he shall prepare a meat offering of an ephah for a bullock, and an ephah for a ram, and an hin of oil for an ephah. 25In the seventh month, in the fifteenth day of the month, shall he do the like in the feast of the seven days, according to the sin offering, according to the burnt offering, and according to the meat offering, and according to the oil.

Same old offerings, and no mention of them being "memorials", which idea is ridiculous in any case.

A sheer fantasy, designed to make the idea of this fictional Temple that DFs dote on so much not seem like such rank heresy.

READ HEBREWS, and abandon this horrid deception!

Brother, I have from exegesis of Ezekiel, from the Hebrew which I have already supplied proven this member wrong.

DeaconDean said:
" First, Ezekiel nowhere stated or even hinted at the idea that these sacrifices will be memorial in nature. Second, Ezekiel specifically wrote that these offerings will make atonement (45:15, 17, 20). The word for “atonement” in Ezekiel is the same as the word used in Leviticus. Third, the parallel between sacrifices and the Lord’s Supper intimates that animal sacrifices had no efficacy whatsoever."

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Furthermore:

"With this background, we can better appreciate the significance of today’s passage and its description of worship in this new temple during the era of restoration. Note that the east gate of the inner court remains closed all day every day except the Sabbath and the day of the festival of the new moon (46:1). The north and south gates remain open on a daily basis so that worshippers can present daily offerings, but the east gate is closed. On the days that the east gate on the inner court is open all day, only the prince—the king and leader of Israel—can enter by it (vv. 2–8). Also, this east gate can be opened at any time the prince wants to make a freewill offering, but it only stays open for the duration of the offering (v. 12). Since only the prince can enter by the same east gate of the inner court that God entered in Ezekiel 43, the true prince of the restoration is identified with Yahweh in a special way.

Although the prince enters the inner court of the temple complex by the east gate, he enters the outer court with the people by the north gate or the south gate (vv. 9–10). The point is that the prince of the restoration identifies himself with his people in leading them into God’s presence. Moreover, the prince offers sacrifices (vv. 4–7). The king in ancient Israel occasionally offered sacrifices (1 Chron. 16:1–3), but the priests alone offered the regular offerings. Ezekiel’s prince has an even greater role in the community’s regular worship.

Jesus fulfills Ezekiel’s vision of the prince. He is identified with both Yahweh and His people, being truly God and truly man (John 1:1–18). And He offered the only sacrifice needed for us to come regularly before God—the once-for-all sacrifice of Himself (Heb. 9:11–28)."

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Post #85 of this thread.

And, I submit:

DeaconDean said:
An Absurdity

However, it is absurd to say that such an object lesson or memorial will be needed. As we shall see, Scripture declares such a thing to be "useless". Premillennialists of all persuasions believe that Jesus Christ Himself, the full and final Sacrifice for sins, will be present on earth in Jerusalem, reigning during the millennium, His wounds on display to the entire world. It would be an insult to Christ to reinstitute the bloody type in the presence of the once-for-all Fulfillment.

Furthermore, Ezekiel 43 speaks of these sacrifices not as memorials, but in the same terms by which they were spoken of in the Pentateuch, as offerings for sin (verses 19, 21, 22, 25), the means of purifying the altar (26), and the basis of acceptance (27). This is very clearly Old Covenant, pre-Cross language.

Even the ordinance of the New Covenant, the Lord's Supper, is for the purpose of proclaiming "the Lord's death till He comes" (1 Corinthians 11:26, Acts 1:11). When Christ is once more visibly present, no such bloodless memorial - much less the bloody sacrifice of bulls and goats - will be needed.

The New Testament Interprets the Old

Dear Christian friend, regardless of your position on eschatology, you must always remember one thing as you look at Old Testament prophecy: The New Testament is God the Holy Spirit's commentary on the Old Testament. In the books of Acts, Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, and especially in the book of Hebrews, we find this central fact bannered before us: All of the Old Testament ceremonial system was done away, forever, by the person and work of our Lord Jesus Christ.

He has been proven wrong. PERIOD!

God Bless

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The NT authors are all Jewish, with the exception of Luke. Including Jesus Himself. Capiche?!


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Paul was a Jew, so show me where he taught a re-institution of the sacrifices?

To whom was Paul sent?

Your case does not hold water.

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Paul was a Jew, so show me where he taught a re-institution of the sacrifices?

To whom was Paul sent?

Your case does not hold water.

God Bless

Till all are one.


Show me anywhere in the Bible supporting evidence for your claims; there will be no restoration of the kingdom of Israel, and no animal sacrificial system restoration during the Millennium.

The case I have presented speaks for itself. It not only holds water, but is fully supported by the Scripture to prove it, in total contrast to your views.

And where, may I ask, did you obtain your qualifications to teach the Bible, let alone eschatology?


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Show me anywhere in the Bible supporting evidence for your claims; there will be no restoration of the kingdom of Israel, and no animal sacrificial system restoration during the Millennium.

The Book of Hebrews.

The case I have presented speaks for itself. It not only holds water, but is fully supported by the Scripture to prove it, in total contrast to your views.

Quoting Jewish articles and the book of Ezekiel alone is "fully supported"!

And where, may I ask, did you obtain your qualifications to teach the Bible, let alone eschatology?

Quasar92

Now, if you really want to get personal...

My seminary education from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.

I was also ordained as a Deacon and Elder in my church, and have been licensed to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. So not only do I have the qualifications, but my authority comes from God too.

Where is yours?

Your on the verge of letting this get personal. And I urge you not to go down this route.

God Bless

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And the fact is, the Book of Hebrews puts an end to what is asserted by Ezekiel.

The priesthood of Zadok, 19 times in the book of Hebrews we see Jesus Christ as The High Priest. And Heb. 7:28 specifically puts an end forevermore to the priesthood of Zadok!

The book of Hebrews, Hebrews 10:12 tells us specifically that the sacrifices were done away with "for ever". No sacrificing now, or in the future!

Ezekiel said the "sacrifice" was to "reconcile, Romans 5:10 disputes this. Furthermore, Jesus' death on the cross was the way to "reconcile the world unto himself".

Ezekiel speaks of sacrificing as a "sin-offering". Hebrews 10:4 specifically denies that notion.

And no matter how you try, no matter how many articles you supply, it is the duty of the High Priest to sacrifice. And the fact is since Hebrews 5:10 tells us that Jesus is the ultimate High Priest, " an high priest after the order of Melchisedec", no priest, not even the priesthood of Zadok, can perform the sacrifice. And Jesus, the High Priest, will sacrifice for Israel, nor will He sacrifice to remind them.

There will be no sacrificial system in the millennium, there will be no new priesthood.

And it don't take a degree or an education to disprove what Ezekiel said. The book of Hebrews disproves it alone!

And here again, it really boils down to this. Ezekiel says one thing, Hebrews says differently.

If we believe Ezekiel is correct, then it directly contradicts the Book of Hebrews. If this is the case, we have bona-fide contradiction. And that makes the scriptures not worth the paper they are printed on.

It also proves that the bible is not reliable.

It is not inerrant. It contains an error.

BUT! If what Ezekiel's word is viewed from the "conditional" standpoint, there is no contradiction. There is no error. Scriptures are reliable.

And Ezekiel's vision, was, as always, conditional. And the conditions were laid forth in 43:11.

The Conditional Promises of God

Psalm 37:4 says, “Delight yourself in the Lord and He will give you the desires of your heart.”

God has promised to give us the desires of our heart but they’re conditional upon our delighting ourselves in Him and in His character. Our desires will then be a reflection of Who He is and God will then delight in giving us those desires.

Ephesians 6:2 says, “Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise) that it may be well with thee…”

Do you know any young people today and things aren’t going well for them? Many times it can be traced back to a violation of this conditional promise.

Proverbs 3:5-6 says, “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths.”

God has certainly promised to guide and direct us, but that guidance is conditional upon us acknowledging Him in all our ways.

Isaiah 26:3 says, “Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on Thee…” Peace is the birthright of every child of God. Jesus said, “Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid” (John 14:27).

But that peace is contingent upon structuring our lives around Him. If we are dwelling upon the lies of the enemy rather than upon the truth of God’s Word there will be no peace – only discouragement and distress.

God said to Ezekiel:

"And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them." -Eze. 43:11 (KJV)

There is not "future" in this passage, God did not say "During the millennium".

Ezekiel went to the priests of his time, and the condition was "do them". And sadly, they did not "do them"!

And nothing you can say, nothing you can do will ever change that!

God Bless

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And one last thing.

You don't have to a "qualification" for this.

Comparing apples and apples.

Anybody with an IQ over 25, who can read, can see that the Book of Hebrews, and the New Testament show that what Ezekiel said, cannot come true.

God Bless

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