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Extreme gun control positions

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Strathos, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. No Swansong

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    All rights are subject to reasonable regulation. For example the often touted laws against calling for violence against another is a reasonable regulation of the freedom of speech or the press depending upon how such a call was made. Forbidding human sacrifice is a reasonable regulation of the freedom of religious expression and currently it is illegal for guns to be sold to persons who are subject to visual and audible hallucinations. Usually such regulations exist to protect the rights of others and they are rare as they should be, but still it stands that constitutional rights can be regulated or restricted.
     
  2. durangodawood

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    Oh brother.

    Everyone here is ok with sacrificing certain liberties for security.
     
  3. Belk

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    It states it right in the amendment.

     
  4. OK Jeff

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    And what is the purpose of the people’s ability to form a militia?
     
  5. Belk

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    No, I'm pointing out your assertion is incorrect. Perhaps you should incorporate that into your views?
     
  6. OK Jeff

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    And there you nailed it. The restriction should be around the problem persons. Not the guns. The gun is a tool, neither good nor bad. Gun violence is a human problem
     
  7. OK Jeff

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    And I’m pointing out the only example that exists proves my assertion correct.
     
  8. Gigimo

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    You must be referring to the quote by Isoruku Yamamoto about "there will be a gun behind every blade of grass". Some are wont to say he never said that because it's supposedly not in any books about him, but you have to wonder just exactly he said that aren't in those books. Considering he died in 43 before a lot of historians/book writers had a chance to interview him I wouldn't be afraid to say there is a lot of what he said/thought missing from history.

    He was also against most of what the Japanese military did starting with the invasion of China in 31, the AXIS Pact and starting a war with the US. He also lived in the US and knew about our customs and beliefs, so him saying that is not a stretch in my book.
     
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  9. Sketcher

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    If they can't buy a gun and ammunition as easily as we can, and freely transport it to an open rifle range whenever they want like we can, no, they're not as free as we are.
     
  10. Belk

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    How many times am I going to have to quote the same amendment?

     
  11. No Swansong

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    You mean like when prohibition was repealed?
     
  12. Belk

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    Really? I would beg to differ. That amendments can reinstate rights that wetre lost does not negate the fact that they can indeed restrict rights.
     
  13. OK Jeff

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    That’s the quote I had in mind. I posted a screenshot, but it hasn’t showed up yet. I found a similar quote from an unnamed Japanese admiral that’s similar. Robert Menard recorded it.
     
  14. No Swansong

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    Why should voting not be a constitutionally protected right?
     
  15. OK Jeff

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    Yes
     
  16. OK Jeff

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    It was originally restricted to those who had vested interest. Namely possessed actual property.
     
  17. Sketcher

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    You would ban 7-shot revolvers then?
     
  18. OK Jeff

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    I don’t understand how you think this does anything but prove my point.
     
  19. OK Jeff

    OK Jeff Active Member

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    Or nine?
     
  20. No Swansong

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    Sure you can. Your philosophy is problematic. I don't agree with sacrificing liberty in most cases but it can be done, and in some cases doing so can increase one's security.
     
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