Extreme gun control positions

[TheBear]

Gun Laws Stop At State Lines, But Guns Don’t

Enticing theory, but how does that actually work? What is the process, step by step?

 

[Sparagmos]

Enticing theory, but how does that actually work? What is the process, step by step?

Not sure what theory or process you are referring to

 

[Gigimo]

I presented a chart showing that there is no correlation between gun ownership and homicide rates.

I don't fully understand your question, though. Did you not realise that knives are used to murder people? Here in Australia, knives are used in 42% of homicides (up from 32%), which means that our national weapons control debate, as in the UK, is mostly about knife control.

There are things that kill more people annually than guns do but for some reason that never makes it way into the conversation, vehicles and doctors are two examples but we can't ban them is the standard response.

 

[TheBear]

Not sure what theory or process you are referring to

How a resident of Illinois purchases a firearm in an adjoining state.

 

[Belk]

There are things that kill more people annually than guns do but for some reason that never makes it way into the conversation, vehicles and doctors are two examples but we can't ban them is the standard response.

By all means. Let's monitor and regulate guns to the same level we do vehicles and medical practitioners. We can skip your strawman of banning them.

 

[super animator]

Here is another strawman…


When there is a person who openly declares himself a Nationalist, when there is a person that is openly supported by Neo-Nazi’s, when there is a person who encourages violence at his political rallies, when there is a person who only weakly condemns violence from Neo-Nazi’s days after the fact and only because of the flack for not doing so earlier, when there is a person who uses words like “fake news” and Lügenpresse, when there is a person that openly calls the media the “enemy of the people” , when there is a person who creates an immigration policy within days of taking office that looks like it came from 1933, when there is a person who that looks up to authoritarian regimes and alienates out real allies, when there is a person who says America should try having a Leader for life like China, when there is a person who makes a founding member of Breitbart News, Steve Bannon the White House Chief Strategist, when thousands can parade with torches chatting “The Jews will not replace us!”, when you have a White House Press Secretary that said Adolf Hitler did not use chemical weapons, when you have a White House that issued a Holocaust Remembrance Day statement that does not mention Jews or Anti-Semitism at all, when a person goes into a Synagogue and kills 11 in the deadliest attack on the Jewish community in the United States, and when you see no sigh what so ever of this trend ending, my family and I will be keeping our guns.

Dude, a run on sentence? That's hard to read.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Dude, a run on sentence? That's hard to read.

It is also hard to believe that it is currently happening, but here we are…

 

[expos4ever]

Their loss. As to why it is important, the Second Amendment's text is self-explanatory.

I trust you realize that gun culture is a uniquely American phenomenon. The only “loss” we experience is the “loss” of the opportunity to die in a hail of bullets.

 

[Sparagmos]

How a resident of Illinois purchases a firearm in an adjoining state.

Did you read the article? It is incredibly detailed.

 

[Rubiks]

Just look at hand grenades.

Its been years since we took them off the shelves at Walmart, and the rate of murder by hand grenade has gone down to almost zero.

I for one am not ready to bring them back.

Do you have a source for Walmart selling hand grenades? I find that extremely hard to believe.

 

[durangodawood]

Do you have a source for Walmart selling hand grenades? I find that extremely hard to believe.

As you should.

We would be going ape**** if people could just go to the store and buy ready made bombs.

 

[Gigimo]

By all means. Let's monitor and regulate guns to the same level we do vehicles and medical practitioners. We can skip your strawman of banning them.

If the arguments for banning guns weren't so lame other things that are more lethal wouldn't be mentioned.

 

[Rubiks]

As you should.

We would be going ape**** if people could just go to the store and buy ready made bombs.

Who is "we?"

 

[durangodawood]

Who is "we?"

96.47% of the US population.

 

[Rubiks]

96.47% of the US population.

Are you sure more people wouldn't defend it as a constitutional right nowadays if that really were the case ?

 

[Belk]

If the arguments for banning guns weren't so lame other things that are more lethal wouldn't be mentioned.

That's nice. As a gun owner I am not trying to ban guns. Perhaps you could focus on the arguments being presented? If, as you claim, these other areas are problematic should we not pursue a similar approach to harm reduction with firearms?

 

[TheBear]

Did you read the article? It is incredibly detailed.

Yes. I read the article and followed the links. Lots of tables and data to look at. However, the article itself says that this "suggests" their conclusion. In addition, the article never address my question to you. How can a resident of Illinois purchase firearms from an adjoining state? I'm asking you, personally, since you're the one who posted that claim in the first place. Don't just drop links that seem to go along with what you believe. I want you to explain such a process in your own words. If you don't know, and are merely echoing soundbites, just say so, and I will explain the process for your edification.

 

[durangodawood]

Are you sure more people wouldn't defend it as a constitutional right nowadays if that really were the case ?

???

As it is, almost nobody defends access to ready made bombs as a 2A right.

 

[Radagast]

There are things that kill more people annually than guns do but for some reason that never makes it way into the conversation, vehicles and doctors are two examples but we can't ban them is the standard response.

Your comment on doctors is ridiculous.

But compared to Australia, the US has roughly twice as many road deaths as it could have. Cutting the road toll in half would save more lives than somehow magically making murders stop. And it wouldn't be all that hard to do. I'm amazed that more people aren't demanding action.

 

[Sketcher]

I trust you realize that gun culture is a uniquely American phenomenon. The only “loss” we experience is the “loss” of the opportunity to die in a hail of bullets.

Sounds like you're countering your own objection to our continued right to keep and bear arms:

When your desire to play with guns means more of them will get transported illegally to Canada, it becomes very much my business.

Even I can’t vote in your country.