Excellent talk by awake Christian leader !

[bmjackson]

Talks about whether the restrictions are biblical.

 

[PloverWing]

46 minutes is a long video. Can you post a summary of his most important points?

 

[bmjackson]

Increase speed to 1.5. He says we do not have to comply with governments that condone killing unborn babies. He says that restrictions especially closing churches contradict scripture.

 

[ralliann]

Increase speed to 1.5. He says we do not have to comply with governments that condone killing unborn babies. He says that restrictions especially closing churches contradict scripture.

Or would have morality, the mutilation of our children. That really was some good preaching IMO

 

[Sunshinee777]

”Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own”

As Christians we have right to keep our bodies free from mrna coctails. So anybody who is demanding to get jabbed is offending basic humanrights.

 

[Sunshinee777]

I love this guy. We need more of this.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

Talks about whether the restrictions are biblical.

Where in Romans 13 does it say Christians are to only follow governments that are trying to glorify God? It does not. He is inserting that into the text. It says to obey the governing authorities because God has instituted all governments. It says to obey the government as a matter of conscience.

 

[ralliann]

Where in Romans 13 does it say Christians are to only follow governments that are trying to glorify God? It does not. He is inserting that into the text. It says to obey the governing authorities because God has instituted all governments. It says to obey the government as a matter of conscience.

He is speaking of assembling together as a Church. We are not to make government mandates a matter of judgement between our brothers and sisters there. Pastors are making it a matter of conscience, rather than mere wise counsel.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Increase speed to 1.5. He says we do not have to comply with governments that condone killing unborn babies. He says that restrictions especially closing churches contradict scripture.

The contradiction there is, that churches exist under the government's jurisdiction (Romans 13) and tend to get tax free status and are acknowledged as a religious organization.

Churches could do the underground thing, but I don't see anyone racing to go do that.

So since the church is like a child who cannot leave their parent's house, they need to play by the house rules.

 

[Aldebaran]

Where in Romans 13 does it say Christians are to only follow governments that are trying to glorify God? It does not. He is inserting that into the text. It says to obey the governing authorities because God has instituted all governments. It says to obey the government as a matter of conscience.

By that reasoning though, there would have been no Jewish people left in Germany of the 1930s since obeying the government didn't include hiding from the authorities to avoid extermination.

 

[durangodawood]

By that reasoning though, there would have been no Jewish people left in Germany of the 1930s since obeying the government didn't include hiding from the authorities to avoid extermination.

Jews probably didn't pay much heed to the epistles of Paul.

 

[Sunshinee777]

Where in Romans 13 does it say Christians are to only follow governments that are trying to glorify God? It does not. He is inserting that into the text. It says to obey the governing authorities because God has instituted all governments. It says to obey the government as a matter of conscience.

Did you watch the whole video? He wasn’t adding anything to text. He was explaining how we are not to follow ungodly government.

Bible also says “And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”

So, if ungodly government says to you, that you need to do something against God’s will, you have to choose do you follow government or God.

If you follow government over God, then government is your God.


Bible also talks about how we are not trust men because they can be corrupted.

“Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.”

 

[Tanj]

Got any by an asleep Christian preacher for comparison?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Increase speed to 1.5. He says we do not have to comply with governments that condone killing unborn babies. He says that restrictions especially closing churches contradict scripture.

So a political pundit masquerading as a preacher?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Got any by an asleep Christian preacher for comparison?

Pretty sure my pastor would count. We're still doing online services for the most part at my church. We do have in-house worship going on, it requires letting the church know you'll be attending in person and proof of vaccination. My pastor also doesn't get political in his sermons that I've seen (I couldn't even tell you who my pastor votes for).

I'm pretty sure that disqualifies my pastor/church in the eyes of many.

We also have a quilting club where little old ladies quilt blankets to donate to local shelters and to be distributed to needy families. So you know, pretty diabolical.

-CryptoLuthearn

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

Did you watch the whole video? He wasn’t adding anything to text. He was explaining how we are not to follow ungodly government.

Bible also says “And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”

So, if ungodly government says to you, that you need to do something against God’s will, you have to choose do you follow government or God.

If you follow government over God, then government is your God.


Bible also talks about how we are not trust men because they can be corrupted.

“Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.”

I watched the entire video. Romans 13 does not give you this option.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

By that reasoning though, there would have been no Jewish people left in Germany of the 1930s since obeying the government didn't include hiding from the authorities to avoid extermination.

I didn't write the bible.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

He is speaking of assembling together as a Church. We are not to make government mandates a matter of judgement between our brothers and sisters there. Pastors are making it a matter of conscience, rather than mere wise counsel.

He said a lot more than this.

 

[ralliann]

He said a lot more than this.

That was the basics.
Quit making it a matter of morals for Christian fellowship. The conscience is the domain of the Lord alone. To vax or not vax is a matter of individual conscience.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

That was the basics.
Quit making it a matter of morals for Christian fellowship. The conscience is the domain of the Lord alone. To vax or not vax is a matter of individual conscience.

I agree that to vax is a matter of individual conscience. No one should be forced to. Roman’s 13 does not give Christian’s that option if you read the plain text.