Evidence for a Young Earth & that Man lived with Dinosaurs

[daleksteve]

At the time of Jesus historians are in general agreement that the total world population was 200 to 300 million people. DNA studies do indicate that modern humans did experience a genetic bottleneck around 80,000 years ago when the population may have dropped to a perhaps a thousand people in east central Africa.

Everyone living outside of Africa today has a small amount of Neanderthal DNA in them. It suggests that modern humans met and perhaps bred with Neanderthals. More evidence against a young earth and creation. in fact humans are species called hominins. There have been many different species of hominins, on the earth over the past 3 millions years but modern humans are the only survivors. I learned a lot recently that blows the whole young earth argument apart.

 

[daleksteve]

UOTE="daleksteve, post: 71050155, member: 377541"]Fossils have been found that show the last meal of a Dinosaur. Not one has ever shown human remains. Again more proof that Dinosaurs were not around with people.

So what?
But then again... we got this...
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Whats is supposed to be?

 

[Job 33:6]

Regarding the dinosaur track
Jeremy the Skeptic: Human/Dinosaur Fossil Footprint Hardly Convincing

I must say the "fossil" does look fake. The dinosaur footprint looks nothing like a real print by the dinosaur it is claimed to originate from. And something weird is going on with the big toe of the human print.

Plus, often when you have tracks, you have more than one. But in the pictures of it, looks like there is literally just one stone that is no more than a foot or two in diameter and thats it. Where are the rest of the tracks?

And the guy who found it said he had it for several years without realizing that there was a human footprint on it? What?

Anyone who would take two seconds to pick that up off the ground (if it were real) would be aware that there is a human footprint on it. Yet somehow the person who discovered it was completely unaware.

This story reminds me a lot of the time those guys claimed to kill bigfoot and they stuffed it in a cooler.

Fur from the creature was DNA tested and it was found to be a mix of a fake suit with racoon fur glued onto it. Only this time, there is no testing of the footprints, as for whatever reason it is the only one of its kind from an unknown locality.

 

[mark kennedy]

Everyone living outside of Africa today has a small amount of Neanderthal DNA in them. It suggests that modern humans met and perhaps bred with Neanderthals. More evidence against a young earth and creation. in fact humans are species called hominins. There have been many different species of hominins, on the earth over the past 3 millions years but modern humans are the only survivors. I learned a lot recently that blows the whole young earth argument apart.

The only kind of evidence that is for, is that Neanderthals were human. You get these Neanderthals from Iraq to Spain which is consistent with a migration pattern following the flood. The have a cranial capacity 10% greater then our own and they bear little resemblance to apes. What the genomic comparison is telling us is that if they were alive today we could interbreed, that being the case then we are the same species, for all intents and purposes.

 

[daleksteve]

The only kind of evidence that is for, is that Neanderthals were human. You get these Neanderthals from Iraq to Spain which is consistent with a migration pattern following the flood. The have a cranial capacity 10% greater then our own and they bear little resemblance to apes. What the genomic comparison is telling us is that if they were alive today we could interbreed, that being the case then we are the same species, for all intents and purposes.

Genesis sort of claims that Adam and Eve were modern homo sapien men and not Neanderthals.

 

[mark kennedy]

Genesis sort of claims that Adam and Eve were modern homo sapien men and not Neanderthals.

It doesn't claim anything about Neanderthals, but the migration pattern is consistent with what you would expect after the flood. The genomic comparisons indicate that they could have interbreed with modern humans which is a baseline for determining species. Generally, species is defined by the ability of the populations to interbreed, there are exceptions, Troglodytes and Bonobos, Grizzle bears and Polar bears, but generally if they can interbreed they are considered the same species. Neanderthals were human in every way that matters.

 

[daleksteve]

It doesn't claim anything about Neanderthals, but the migration pattern is consistent with what you would expect after the flood. .

its not really considering all this happened millions of years before Noah and the flood.

 

[mark kennedy]

its not really considering all this happened millions of years before Noah and the flood.

That's just it, it happened thousands, not millions of years ago.

 

[JackRT]

That's just it, it happened thousands, not millions of years ago.

That's true it wasn't millions of years. The Neandertal people lived from about 300,000 to about 30,000 YBP. Modern humans lived from about 200,000 YBP to the present. The two evolved separately until about 60,0000 YBP when modern man migrated out of Africa into Europe and Asia. So there was a time span of 30,000 years when the two interacted with some gene mixing.

 

[Job 33:6]

Maybe T-rex used their sharp teeth to crack open coconuts. I already showed you the fruit bat...sharp teeth, yet eat fruit. I t really doesn't matter if they were exactly like the T-rex or not.

Fruit bat teeth are really a lot different than a T rex tooth, as are their jaws. Aside from finding teeth of meat eating dinosaurs in other dinosaurs, T rex teeth are serrated on the sides, like a steak knife. Their jaws crush with thousands of pounds of pressure. Their bodies were built for killing.

A fruit bats teeth are not serrated, theyre very tiny teeth for a somewhat frail animal. But even fruit bats eat insects as well...

Life would be easier if you simply recognized that meat eaters have always been meat eaters. This is how God made them.

 

[Jesus_is_Saint]

Do we have dinosaurs during Noah's time?

 

[Job 33:6]

Do we have dinosaurs during Noah's time?

Dinosaurs rules the earth 100-200 million years ago, roughly. They were here long long before people, and went extinct roughly 65 million years ago, also long long before any person and before Noah.

 

[Jesus_is_Saint]

Do you mean God had created lives on earth before the chapter 1 of Genesis?

 

[Job 33:6]

Do you mean God had created lives on earth before the chapter 1 of Genesis?

We know that Dinosaurs lived long before man based on direct observation of creation. How individuals perceive or interpret written Genesis, varies. I believe there are a few topics here on interpretation of Genesis.

 

[Jesus_is_Saint]

what is the correct answer?
yes or no?
Did God create dinosaurs before humans?
give me direct answer.

 

[Job 33:6]

what is the correct answer?
yes or no?
Did God create dinosaurs before humans?
give me direct answer.

Yes, He did. By about 200 million years.

 

[JackRT]

what is the correct answer?
yes or no?
Did God create dinosaurs before humans?
give me direct answer.

God did not directly create either dinosaurs or humans --- they evolved. The truest words in Genesis are the first four, "In the beginning God ... " Since you seem to be interested in timing, dinosaurs evolved first and became extinct over 60 million years before anything remotely human evolved.

 

[Jesus_is_Saint]

Genesis is not parable, it is true history.
God created complete humans directly.

 

[pat34lee]

God did not directly create either dinosaurs or humans --- they evolved. The truest words in Genesis are the first four, "In the beginning God ... " Since you seem to be interested in timing, dinosaurs evolved first and became extinct over 60 million years before anything remotely human evolved.

Question for those Christians who don't believe in creation or the flood:

Do you believe any of the bible? If so, what parts are real,
which are myths, and how do you tell the difference?

 

[Papias]

Question for those Christians who don't believe in creation or the flood:

Do you believe any of the bible? If so, what parts are real,
which are myths, and how do you tell the difference?

The same way you tell the difference - context, genre, form, other scripture, etc.

For instance, just as you asked above, I could ask you:

Question for those Christians who don't believe that God flew the Jews out of Egypt on giant eagles as it states in Ex 19:4-

Do you believe any of the bible? If so, what parts are real,
which are myths, and how do you tell the difference?​

So how would you answer the question in italics?
In Christ-

Papias