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Featured Everything I see convinces me Emmanuel Macron is the antichrist

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by IfThePuzzleFits, Sep 24, 2017.

  1. IfThePuzzleFits

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    Emmanuel Macron ANTICHRIST - making his move to rule Europe and destroy America.


    I was wondering what you guys thought. For example:

    Emmanuel Jean-Michel Frédéric Macron
    Emmanuel - "God with us"
    Jean - "Gift from God"
    Michel - "Who is like God" - who is like the beast
    Frederik - "peaceful ruler or prince of peace" - the title for Jesus
    Macron - "a long mark", - mark of the beast
    2017 and 2024 eclipse - form an x or target over the population center of the United States
    There are two signs from the book of Revelation, on in September, one in December of this year. This hasn't happened for 7000 years. Jesus said the last generation would be when this is all possible, which is when Israel became a state, which is our time.
     
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    Note that he can't be, because the gematrial "number of the name" of the person who is the Antichrist is 666 (Revelation 13:17c-18, Revelation 15:2), while the gematrial number of the name "Emmanuel Macron" is 715:

    E=5, M=40, M=40, A=1, N=50, U=300, E=5, L=30, M=40, A=1, C=3, R=90, O=60, N=50. Total = 715.

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    That is, the 666 in Revelation 13:17c-18 refers to the number six hundred and sixty-six, the "number of the name" of the individual man who is the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast"). The number of a name (Revelation 13:17c-18, Revelation 15:2) is determined by employing the ancient method of gematria, by which numerical values are assigned to the letters of any alphabet as follows: The first nine letters are 1 through 9, the next nine letters are 10 through 90 (counting by tens), and the rest of the letters are 100, 200, 300, etc., to the end of the alphabet. In Revelation 13:18, the "counting", the adding up, of the gematrial number of the Antichrist's name should be done in the same way the gematrial numerical values of the 3 Greek letters (Chi, Xi and Stigma) at the end of Revelation 13:18 (in the original Greek Textus Receptus) are added up to arrive at the number six hundred and sixty-six.

    The numerical values of the letters of the ancient Greek alphabet (including the 3 obsolete letters of Stigma, Qoppa and Sampi) were as follows: Alpha = 1, Beta = 2, Gamma = 3, Delta = 4, Epsilon = 5, Stigma = 6, Zeta = 7, Eta = 8, Theta = 9, Iota = 10, Kappa = 20, Lambda = 30, Mu = 40, Nu = 50, Xi = 60, Omikron = 70, Pi = 80, Qoppa = 90, Rho = 100, Sigma = 200, Tau = 300, Upsilon = 400, Phi = 500, Chi = 600, Psi = 700, Omega = 800, Sampi = 900.

    Just as the numerical values of Chi, Xi and Stigma at the end of Revelation 13:18 (in the Textus Receptus) add up to 666, so the numerical values of the letters in the future Antichrist's name will add up to 666 (Revelation 13:17c-18). The apostle John used the Greek alphabet because it was the most common one used by Christians when the book of Revelation was written down. Today, the English alphabet is the most common one used by Christians, insofar as English is the current lingua franca of the world. So the future Antichrist's name will most likely add up to 666 in the English alphabet. The purpose of Revelation 13:17c-18 is to facilitate for Christians, not to make difficult for them, the identification of a certain man as possibly being the Antichrist. If the letters in his name had to be transliterated into the Greek alphabet, this would vitiate this purpose, for almost all Christians today wouldn't know how to properly perform this transliteration, and so different Christians would come up with different transliterations, and so would come up with different gematrial numbers for the name of the man in question.

    If Christians think someone is the Antichrist, they need to check and make sure his name adds up to 666 in gematria (Revelation 13:17c-18). If it doesn't, then he isn't the Antichrist. If it does, then he could be, and they need to be especially wary of him and not be taken in by any deceptive charisma, intelligence or amazing deeds he might display. But even if someone's name does add up to 666, this doesn't mean he's definitely the Antichrist. For just by chance there could be more than one person in the world whose name adds up to 666. The Antichrist also has to come from a country the territory of which used to be part of one of the 4 Diadochian Greek kingdoms which succeeded Alexander the Great (Daniel 8:8-9,21-25). These kingdoms stretched from Greece over to Iran, and down into Egypt. So the Antichrist could come from the Middle East. He could be an Arab who will come from Lebanon, from the modern city of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:4), and have a name like (for example) "Nabil Abdullah Falakal al-Hakim", which adds up to 666.

    But if a man from the Middle East has a name which adds up to 666, even this doesn't assure he's the Antichrist. For he also has to sit (at least one time) in a future, 3rd Jewish temple in Jerusalem and proclaim himself God (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, Daniel 11:31,36, Matthew 24:15, Revelation 11:1-2). Once he does that, there won't be any more room for doubt over whether or not he's the Antichrist. His identity will have been definitely revealed (2 Thessalonians 2:3b-4).

    The gematrial numerical values of the letters of the English alphabet are: A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4, E=5, F=6, G=7, H=8, I=9, J=10, K=20, L=30, M=40, N=50, O=60, P=70, Q=80, R=90, S=100, T=200, U=300, V=400, W=500, X=600, Y=700, Z=800. The way the gematrial number of a name is "counted" (Revelation 13:17c-18), is added up, is simply by adding up the gematrial numerical values of all the letters in that name. So, for example, the number of the name "John Mark Smith" is 636, because: J=10, O=60, H=8, N=50, M=40, A=1, R=90, K=20, S=100, M=40, I=9, T=200, H=8. Total = 636. The future Antichrist's name will add up to 666 (Revelation 13:17c-18).
     
  3. SkyWriting

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    I don't trust brand new members to refer me to any video's.
    New members seem to have an agenda, or moral dilemmas's
    they should work with their close friends on. Opinions from
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  4. IfThePuzzleFits

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    I think his name has to add up to 666, and I don't think the way of calculating it is necessarily gematria. Just watch, everything I've seen about him has screamed antichrist. Watch where he is in 1 year, in 2 years. I bet he'll be positioned to make his big move to rule the world in short time. If you see it happening, you'll know. If not, then I'll admit I was clearly wrong, but I have a hunch he could really be the man of sin.
     
  5. seashale76

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    Bunch of rubbish.
     
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  6. Bible2+

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    The "wisdom" given in Revelation 13:18 is that six hundred and sixty-six is the number of the Antichrist's name (Revelation 13:17c-18). And the "understanding" in Revelation 13:18 which is required to properly "count", to add up, the number of his name, is having an understanding of gematria, which scripture itself employs with the 3 Greek letters at the end of Revelation 13:18 (in the original Greek Textus Receptus), and which scriptural gematria, sadly, many Christians today are either unaware of, or, even if they know about it, they refuse to employ it, mistakenly thinking it's some sort of occult numerology/divination.

    Irenaeus (born c. 140 AD) said "this number [666] being found in all the most approved and ancient copies [of Revelation], and those men who saw John face to face bearing their testimony; while reason also leads us to conclude that the number of the name of the beast, according to the Greek mode of calculation by the [value of] the letters contained in it, will amount to six hundred and sixty and six" (Against Heresies 5:30:1). This mode of calculation, or method of gematria, is the same in the Greek alphabet, the Hebrew alphabet, the English alphabet and any other alphabet: the first nine letters in the alphabet are 1 through 9, the next nine letters are 10 through 90 (counting by tens) and the rest of the letters are 100, 200, 300, etc., to the end of the alphabet.

    The Antichrist may not appear on the world stage until after the horrible, future, Tribulation-starting war of Revelation 6:4-8 and Daniel 11:15-17 has resulted in the total defeat and occupation of Israel, and Egypt, and the death of 1/4 of the world. It could be this war which will help open the way for the Antichrist to arise on the world stage as a great man of peace and antitypically fulfill the "vile" person of Daniel 11:21-45.

    Any person is an antichrist who denies Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ (1 John 2:22), or who denies Jesus is the human/divine Son of God (1 John 2:22b), or who denies Christ is in the flesh (2 John 1:7). The spirit of antichrist which will animate the future Antichrist has been working since the 1st century AD (1 John 4:3; 2 Thessalonians 2:7a), animating many antichrists since that time (2 John 1:7).
     
  7. Targaryen

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    Smells like paranoia, tastes like paranoia, uses the Bible to attempt to explain paranoia.
     
  8. Phil 1:21

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    Impossible. CNN tells us Donald Trump already has the job.
     
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  9. tulc

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    ...why is this news? :scratch:
    tulc(is just wondering) :sorry:
     
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  10. ArmenianJohn

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    Macron's presidency is a current event
     
  11. IfThePuzzleFits

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    So the one guy that actually matches the antichrist prophecies and everything lines up for is paranoia? All these people that were saying it was Obama, his name doesn't even calculate to 666 and he isn't even a Prince or anything close to the leader of the European Union.
     
  12. Targaryen

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    Yup, your paranoid. Reading the Bible wrong, trying to justify yourself and so on.
     
  13. IfThePuzzleFits

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    This coming form someone who thinks paying the priest will cause the forgiveness of sins. You'll see, Macron will continue to rise in world power.
     
  14. Targaryen

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    Paying the priest? What the blue blazes are you on about?
     
  15. Bible2+

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    Note that the Antichrist becoming the leader of the EU wouldn't require he come from an EU country.

    For in Daniel 7 the first 3 beasts (Daniel 7:3-6) represent the ancient empires of Babylon (lion), Medo-Persia (bear) and Greece (leopard). The 4th beast, or 4th "king"/"kingdom" (Daniel 7:17,23), represents the ancient Roman empire. And the 10 horns/kings which come out of it (Daniel 7:7,24) could represent 10 major kingdoms/nations today which came out the former territory of the Roman empire, which consisted not only of Western Europe but also the Middle East and North Africa. These 10 nations could be Germany, the U.K., France, Italy, Spain, Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, Algeria and Syria. The 10 part-iron/part-clay toes of Daniel 2:42 could represent the same thing as the 10 horns of Daniel 7:7. The Europeans could be the iron and the Arabs and Turks could be the clay. In Daniel 2:43 the inability of the iron to mix with the clay could represent how, for example, there are many Turks living in Germany but they remain separated in ghettoes within German cities. Similarly, there are many Arab Algerians living in France but they remain separated in ghettoes within French cities.

    But despite this social separation, which could endure indefinitely, the people of Western Europe on the one hand and the people of the Middle East and North Africa on the other could still one day put aside their political separation and become united into one federation. For Daniel 2:42 refers to the 10 as a singular "kingdom". The person who will bring this about could be the future Antichrist.

    The arising of the "little" horn (Daniel 7:8, Daniel 8:9) which is "diverse" from the 10 major nations (Daniel 7:24) could mean the future Antichrist will arise from a little country. And the little horn arising from "among" the 10 major nations (Daniel 7:8) could mean the Antichrist's country's territory used to be part of the Roman empire. And before that it was part of one of the 4 Diadochian Greek kingdoms which succeeded the Greek empire of Alexander the Great (Daniel 8:8-9,21-25). The territory of these 4 kingdoms stretched from Greece over to Iran, and down into Egypt. So the Antichrist could come from the Middle East. He could be an Arab who will come from the little country of Lebanon, from the modern city of Tyre (Ezekiel 28:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:4).

    The Antichrist could start out by claiming to be a Baathist. After becoming the leader of Lebanon, he could peacefully gain control of a Baathist federation of 3 of the 10 major nations (Daniel 7:24): Egypt, "toward the south" of Lebanon (Daniel 8:9), and Iraq and Syria, "toward the east" of Lebanon (Daniel 8:9). This federation could also include the minor nation of a United Palestine, that is, a defeated Israel, "the pleasant land" (Daniel 8:9).

    This Baathist federation could be put together in our future by an Iraqi Baathist General who could completely defeat and occupy Israel and Egypt with a huge Iraqi Army (Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17 the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath"), but who could then mysteriously disappear (Daniel 11:19) shortly before the Antichrist arises on the world stage (Daniel 11:21-45). Years later, when the Antichrist gains control of all 10 of the major nations, he could appoint kings over them (Revelation 17:12) who will defer to him (Revelation 17:13), like how when Napoleon gained control of different nations, he appointed kings over them who would defer to him.
     
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    Most objective observers would agree that any individual or institution making the following claims would qualify as an antichrist.

    Note that "anti" means "another", i.e. a rival, as well as "against". The following claims of the Roman papacy identify it as "another" Christ, thus denying the one true Christ. Scripture also bears witness that Christ was born of sinful human flesh, i.e. Mary. Catholicism denies the "sinful" with its doctrine of immaculate conception.

    Papal claims:

    Pius IX was described as "the living Christ", and "the Lamb of the Vatican".

    Pius X said: "The Pope...is Jesus Christ Himself, hidden under the veil of flesh."

    Pius XI, on 30 April 1922, in the Vatican throne room, said: "You know that I am the Holy Father, the representative of God on the earth, the Vicar of Christ, which means that I am God on the earth."

    The Canon Law in the Gloss on the Extravaganza of John XXII, AD 1316-1334, calls the Roman pontiff "Our Lord God the Pope."

    Martin V was addressed as: "The most holy and most blessed, who holds the celestial jurisdiction, who is Lord over all the earth...the anointed...the ruler of the universe, the father of kings, the Light of the World."

    During the Vatican Council, 9 January 1870, it was stated: "The Pope is Christ in office, Christ in jurisdiction and power...we bow down before thy voice, O Pius, as before the voice of Christ, the God of truth; in clinging to thee, we cling to Christ."

    The Roman Catholic theologian Thomas Aquinas said: "There is no difference between the Pope and Jesus Christ."

    Cardinal Henry Edward Manning said: "He [the Roman pope] was elevated to be, in his Divine Master's Name, King of kings and Lord of lords."

    “All the names which in the Scripture are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope.” Robert Cardinal Bellarmine, De Conciliorum Auctoriatate (On the Authority of the Councils) Bk 2, chap. 17 Bellarmine (1542-1621), a professor and rector at the Jesuit Gregorian University in Rome, is generally considered to have been one of the outstanding Jesuit instructors in the history of this organization.

    “The pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God. He is the divine monarch and supreme emperor, and king of kings. Hence the pope is crowned with a triple crown, as Kind of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions.” Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Bibliotheca, vol.6, art.Papa II” (Ferraris was an Italian Catholic canonist and consultor to the Holy Office in Rome.)

    “We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.” Pope Leo XIII, in an encyclical letter dated June 20, 1894, The Great Encyclical Letters of Leo XIII, p. 304.


    The Protestant Reformers were the first to match the historic claims and actions of the apostate papacy with the prophecies in Daniel 7, 2 Thessalonians 2, John's epistles, and Revelation 13. This antichrist has been with us since the early centuries of the historic Christian Church. It does not await a future fulfillment.


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  18. Strong in Him

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    Macron is the antiChrist?

    Just like Ronald Regan, Tony Blair, Barak Obama, Prince William et al were also the antiChrist?
     
  19. Douggg

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    Macron is not a Jew. Thus, he cannot become the Antichrist. The person who becomes the Antichrist does so by being anointed the King of Israel, instead of and against the rightful king of Israel - Jesus.

    To become the King of Israel, a person must be a Jew.

    Right part of the world though - Europe.
     
  20. ArmenianJohn

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    I think it's an interesting thing to think about and I appreciate the effort you put into it. I think with many things you're reaching but in many ways Macron does fit the description and, as a prominent world leader, he could be the AC.

    I keep an eye out a little but I really don't dwell on who it is or will be - I think it's better to focus on the present and serving God and that takes a lot of time and effort. Not saying you're wrong to research this but for me I just don't have the time. I probably couldn't do all the research you did, either.

    By the way, in your video you say the Winter Solstice is the longest day of the year when in fact it's the SHORTEST day of the year (in the Northern Hemisphere).
     
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