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I suppose you prefer depression suicides to wu-flu deaths.

The correct answer is, to the anti-Trump crowd, either or both. And in the highest number possible.
 
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The First Amendment does not mean that the Federal Government abrogates its right to protect the citizenry.

The Federal Government is charged with providing for the common defense, not with protecting the citizenry. The former is by definition a legitimate function of a centralized government. The latter is not.

Under the guise of "protecting the citizenry" governments become dictatorships.
 
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Because as I have previously stated, under the guise of protecting the citizenry the government, any government, can grant itself whatever power it wants. What is currently occurring in Michigan perfectly illustrates this principal.
 
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The Federal Government is charged with providing for the common defense, not with protecting the citizenry. The former is by definition a legitimate function of a centralized government. The latter is not.

Under the guise of "protecting the citizenry" governments become dictatorships.
`So the Founding Fathers wanted individual states to be competing against one another for limited resources that would protect the lives of their citizens?
 
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Folks this can be done. In 1918 Major League Baseball (MLB) played a reduced season of 140 games (154 games was a full season). Most historians attribute the reduced season to WW1. But we also know the pandemic of Spanish flu was making its rounds that year. How did they handle it? They played baseball and some players wore masks and most spectators did.

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Common folks this can be done. In 1918 Major League Baseball (MLB) played a reduced season of 140 games (154 games was a full season). Most historians attribute the reduced season to WW1. But we also know the pandemic of Spanish flu was making its rounds that year. How did they handle it? They played baseball and some players wore masks and most spectators did.

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So that's why it killed 50 million
 
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As I see it, social distancing is not working and the economy is failing. It appears they are now moving to get as many sick and as many deaths from the plague as possible so herd immunity will prevail. And things can recover as close to normal as possible.
 
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As I see it, social distancing is not working and the economy is failing. It appears they are now moving to get as many sick and as many deaths from the plague as possible so herd immunity will prevail. And things can recover as close to normal as possible.
Well from my vantage point the number of ambulance sirens is down significantly.
 
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If some people don't have enough sense to protect themselves and, by their actions, infect and (possibly) kill others it's the role of government to protect the population at large by instituting safety measures.

Have you forgotten the commandment not to kill others?
No, it's never the role of government to protect us from ourselves... that kind of thinking is how slaves are made.
 
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By not taking simple, effective precautions, people are (unintentionally or not) infecting others with the most dangerous virus in the last hundred years.

Do you really think it's okay to infect others with COVID-19? Really? Even if it's unintentional it should never be done -- under any circumstances.
You have the right to live in your closet forever if you want. And everyone else has the right to live thier lives. Everything is a risk. No one here is trying to deliberately infect anyone.
 
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Because as I have previously stated, under the guise of protecting the citizenry the government, any government, can grant itself whatever power it wants. What is currently occurring in Michigan perfectly illustrates this principal.

What about the military? It's a power that can (and has) been used as a tool to promote the interests of whatever croon is in power at the time. Yet, that should not be a reason to get rid of the military. What about police and so on, and on, and on...?
 
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