Wow.How about economical ? Or moral ?
If you really believe the common teachings of Christian doctrine, especially concerning an "ever suffering in hell" (note: I do not, but for them that do) then having no children would be the right and loving thing to do. A person that has children while believing these doctrines would be doing nothing less than recklessly endangering the very soul of a being with eternal suffering; and for very selfish reasons. Upon accidental pregnancy, abortion would be the loving thing to do, giving the soul the certainty of reaching heaven.
This means the one committing the abortion would be sinning, yet if they can be forgiven of that sin, then the child is guaranteed heaven, and the person committing abortion is forgiven. If the person committing the abortion cannot be forgiven, then it is even more loving of them to sacrifice their own life for the sake of assuring their children life in heaven without the very real possibility of ending up in eternal suffering. So if one believes the common Christian doctrines, abortion is the just and loving choice, and having children is selfish and unimaginably cruel. I would argue that if a person believes these doctrines and has had children, they should qualify as being placed behind bars in the same way that we would incarcerate parents forcing their children to walk a tightrope over a vat of acid.
Now, of course, this creates a very bizarre situation, but if one believes such bizarre doctrines, how would this not be the right and loving ethical outcome?
I know the Bible teaches us this: "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" .. Genesis 1:28 (which is the very first pre-Fall commandment given to all of mankind, BTW, and as such, is still in force today), and we are also taught .. "You shall not murder" .. Exodus 20:13, but I don't remember ever reading that the intentional murder of your unborn child guarantees them a place in Heaven, do you
While I do believe that all who God allows to die as children (or unborn children) go to Heaven, there is no such direct teaching about it in the Bible (is there), so all we can do is "assume" that such a belief is correct .. right? If you know of something I've missed however, please let me/us know.
John, I think you might want to go back to the drawing board and re-think all of this!
assuming the OP agrees am not sure where one draws a moral line in granting a mother or father could even wish this for their child.If you really believe the common teachings of Christian doctrine, especially concerning an "ever suffering in hell" (note: I do not, but for them that do) then having no children would be the right and loving thing to do. A person that has children while believing these doctrines would be doing nothing less than recklessly endangering the very soul of a being with eternal suffering; and for very selfish reasons. Upon accidental pregnancy, abortion would be the loving thing to do, giving the soul the certainty of reaching heaven.
This means the one committing the abortion would be sinning, yet if they can be forgiven of that sin, then the child is guaranteed heaven, and the person committing abortion is forgiven. If the person committing the abortion cannot be forgiven, then it is even more loving of them to sacrifice their own life for the sake of assuring their children life in heaven without the very real possibility of ending up in eternal suffering.
So if one believes the common Christian doctrines, abortion is the just and loving choice, and having children is selfish and unimaginably cruel. I would argue that if a person believes these doctrines and has had children, they should qualify as being placed behind bars in the same way that we would incarcerate parents forcing their children to walk a tightrope over a vat of acid.
Now, of course, this creates a very bizarre situation, but if one believes such bizarre doctrines, how would this not be the right and loving ethical outcome?
Now, do you want me to agree with you on that these practices are unethical (I agree), or do you want to make a point against abortion (in which latter case I don´t seem to get the logic)?I know folks can't waste time looking at every video, I don't .. But the summery in this one is that . Abortion is a crooked, evil, money making industry .. The woman featured is an abortion clinic owner who used telemarketing strategy and other sales technic for one purpose only, "$$$$" .. Acting as councilors they fool young women into being trusting customers , they provide inadequate, cheap birth control that 1. fails to prevent pregnancy and 2. gives the girls false hope of not becoming pregnant, then with their faith in (planned to fail, faulty) birth control they began to have sex anytime ..... These abortion clinics are money mongering ,murdering liars who have found an easy way to make a buck and process young girls . They get the girls to trust them , act like there closest friend then guide them to ruin like only a deceiving devil can .. Abortion, murder incorporated ..
A person may or may not have a valid POV , but added information to that POV is what changes minds ..
Now, do you want me to agree with you on that these practices are unethical (I agree), or do you want to make a point against abortion (in which latter case I don´t seem to get the logic)?
Well, as I said, I fail to see the logic in using these example as a case for the latter.Both ..