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Doesn't deal with a lick of scripture, v--and it's an argument via emotion if one cannot address it. And for more on what David did plainly when living amongst the Philistines:Your approach to what David done is like it was against the Will of God.. mine isn't
1 Samuel 27
David Among the Philistines
1 But David thought to himself, “One of these days I will be destroyed by the hand of Saul. The best thing I can do is to escape to the land of the Philistines. Then Saul will give up searching for me anywhere in Israel, and I will slip out of his hand.”
2 So David and the six hundred men with him left and went over to Achish son of Maok king of Gath. 3 David and his men settled in Gath with Achish. Each man had his family with him, and David had his two wives: Ahinoam of Jezreel and Abigail of Carmel, the widow of Nabal. 4 When Saul was told that David had fled to Gath, he no longer searched for him.
5 Then David said to Achish, “If I have found favor in your eyes, let a place be assigned to me in one of the country towns, that I may live there. Why should your servant live in the royal city with you?”
6 So on that day Achish gave him Ziklag, and it has belonged to the kings of Judah ever since. 7 David lived in Philistine territory a year and four months.
8 Now David and his men went up and raided the Geshurites, the Girzites and the Amalekites. (From ancient times these peoples had lived in the land extending to Shur and Egypt.) 9 Whenever David attacked an area, he did not leave a man or woman alive, but took sheep and cattle, donkeys and camels, and clothes. Then he returned to Achish.
10 When Achish asked, “Where did you go raiding today?” David would say, “Against the Negev of Judah” or “Against the Negev of Jerahmeel” or “Against the Negev of the Kenites.” 11 He did not leave a man or woman alive to be brought to Gath, for he thought, “They might inform on us and say, ‘This is what David did.’” And such was his practice as long as he lived in Philistine territory. 12 Achish trusted David and said to himself, “He has become so obnoxious to his people, the Israelites, that he will be my servant for life
1 Samuel 29
Achish Sends David Back to Ziklag
1 The Philistines gathered all their forces at Aphek, and Israel camped by the spring in Jezreel. 2 As the Philistine rulers marched with their units of hundreds and thousands, David and his men were marching at the rear with Achish. 3 The commanders of the Philistines asked, “What about these Hebrews?”
Achish replied, “Is this not David, who was an officer of Saul king of Israel? He has already been with me for over a year, and from the day he left Saul until now, I have found no fault in him.”
4 But the Philistine commanders were angry with Achish and said, “Send the man back, that he may return to the place you assigned him. He must not go with us into battle, or he will turn against us during the fighting. How better could he regain his master’s favor than by taking the heads of our own men? 5 Isn’t this the David they sang about in their dances:
“‘Saul has slain his thousands,6 So Achish called David and said to him, “As surely as the LORD lives, you have been reliable, and I would be pleased to have you serve with me in the army. From the day you came to me until today, I have found no fault in you, but the rulers don’t approve of you. 7 Now turn back and go in peace; do nothing to displease the Philistine rulers.”
and David his tens of thousands’?”
8 “But what have I done?” asked David. “What have you found against your servant from the day I came to you until now? Why can’t I go and fight against the enemies of my lord the king?”
9 Achish answered, “I know that you have been as pleasing in my eyes as an angel of God; nevertheless, the Philistine commanders have said, ‘He must not go up with us into battle.’ 10 Now get up early, along with your master’s servants who have come with you, and leave in the morning as soon as it is light.”
11 So David and his men got up early in the morning to go back to the land of the Philistines, and the Philistines went up to Jezreel.
If your approach is "Biblical", it should at the least be able to acknowledge where David lived as a Crypto-Jew and did many of the same things as Esther did. Thus far, the best that has been offered is trying to claim others don't do what's Biblical...as if that in/of itself is an argument. One can do better, especially when seeing where other Messianic Jews knowledgable on the subject of Crypto-Judaism have addressed it squarely.
Sorry--but claiming an approach to something as "unscripture" doesn't deal with actually showing what scripture notes on how others approached situations. David was undercover--and He lied about his stances when living amongst the Philistines. That goes directly in line with the showbread instance where it was not lawful and yet he was allowed to eat it due to the intent of the Law/Torah rather than the letter of it.Your approach to what Esther did was like it against the Will of God.. mine isn't
Esther was undercover, as well as eating what was set before her per the standards for Harems in the Persia Empire. It's revisionist to try altering the story to look as if it's a buffet she had available and not even deal wih historical fact....but at the worst, it's unbiblical to try ignoring that and telling oneself they are for the Will of God when they've not even come close to addressing what the Lord's will was shown plainly in scripture---and that is an issue of pretense/seeing oneself as being more than those in the scriptures are. It was already claimed earlier that those in the scriptures such as Esther or David and others were "weak" as opposed to how the scriptures praise them---and that, in/of itself, is a pride issue when not being able to follow their examples as the definition of strong. It is what it is...and when you're ready to actually address/deal with the scriptures as they are rather than ignoring them as others have often noted, then there can be real discussion of what the Will of the Lord is. Till then, what you're advocating is actually seperate from the Lord's Will..and really a matter of making your own Will as if it's His will. The two are radically different, V
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