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Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Fantine, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. Fantine

    Fantine Dona Quixote Supporter

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    Virginia became the 38th state to ratify the ERA last year.

    The expiration date had passed--but it can be set aside.

    After seeing "Mrs. America" on Hulu, it seems that a Democratic Administration would set it aside and the amendment would become law.

    Phyllis Schlafly had always said that would make Roe v. Wade impossible to repeal. It was one of her central themes.

    And so maybe Republicans will get payback for their treachery by failing to realize the dream for which they held progress hostage for four decades.

    Women would be equal at last.
     
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  2. Nithavela

    Nithavela The reasoning for the seasoning

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    So.. women in the USA still aren't equal by law?
     
  3. driewerf

    driewerf a day at the Zoo

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    Could you, for our non American friends, explain what ERA is?
     
  4. Nithavela

    Nithavela The reasoning for the seasoning

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    Equal Rights Act.
     
  5. Fantine

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    Equal Rights Amendment guaranteeing equality to.women.
     
  6. Nithavela

    Nithavela The reasoning for the seasoning

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    I still can't believe the USA hasn't codified something like that.
     
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  7. Fantine

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    Me neither. They started in 1972, and when Congress passed the bill (with Republicans strongly in favor) a very wealthy mother of six named Phyllis Schlafly was determined to prevent the states from ratifying it. She and her supporters (other wealthy women who had never had to support themselves, work for equal pay, or worry about divorce) fought tooth and nail, preventing the amendment from getting the required 38 states ratifying it in the ten year period following passage.

    Since then 38 states have ratified it (although a few have rescinded it, with questions as to whether that is possible). One of the reasons why enough states didn't ratify was that the Catholic Church and others claimed they could never stop abortion or gay marriage.

    My main concern with Barrett and the illegitimately stacked court (and lower courts) has nothing to do with abortion. It's just everything else. Abortion opponents will cheer when 23 million people lose health insurance, when every case decided favors big business against individuals, when pollution gives them and their children chronic illnesses and COPD and causes countless climactic disasters and forest fires and hurricanes, and more. While I do have Democratic friends who are concerned about Roe v. Wade (which, if overturned, would just cede that decision to the states) I just look at the mountain of injustice that abortion opponents shrug their shoulders about and it doesn't compute.
     
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  8. FireDragon76

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    It's in statute in implied ways, but not in the Constitution.

    At this point, the effect would be mostly symbolic. However, it might have real consequences in the abortion wars.
     
  9. Fantine

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    Women still aren't getting equal pay for equal work. Women are discriminated against in different ways.

    It could have consequences in abortion--and in gay marriage (which the Supreme Court could attack next.) There is absolutely nothing saying that Republicans couldn't file lawsuits trying to invalidate Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and other things. Republicans could reach back into the past to try to get their Federalist Society ideologues to overturn previous decisions, but the only way to overturn an "equal rights amendment" would be a new Constitutional amendment invalidating it.

    That happened with Prohibition years ago.

    Do you think a woman who belongs to a religious cult that preaches women should submit to their husbands will stand on the side of women who are abused, abandoned, mistreated, underpaid, fighting for custody, etc.?
     
  10. FireDragon76

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    Unlike some LGBT allies, I don't think the Court challenging gay marriage is at all likely. In fact I think there's a great deal of unwarranted hysteria on this topic that isn't helpful, and that fails to understand that Christianity's power in America to actually dictate peoples ethics is greatly exaggerated. Even among conservatives, actual opposition to gay marriage is mostly now confined only to the least educated, least informed individuals.
     
  11. wing2000

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    OTH, the ERA is not in our constitution today due to opposition from those who believe a woman should be subservient to her husband....
     
  12. Aryeh Jay

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    Trump, God, and The Bible agree.
     
  13. Fantine

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    There is no room for God in the Heart of a sociopathic narcissist, and he displays less than a kindergartner's knowledge of the Bible.
     
  14. cow451

    cow451 The Most Interesting Poster in the Forum Supporter

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    I heard Trump and God... nevermind.
     
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