English Standard Version (ESV) to be issued with Apocrypha

[SummaScriptura]

It is the exact same proportions as the NETS, if you have that one.

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[DD2008]

I have mine now. It finally came in the mail. It's a good text only bible. What I find a bit annoying is that the Apocrypha is in the back.

 

[johnboy3434]

Yes, it is most disappointing to see that the longer versions of Tobit and Psalm 151 were not included here. Well, as far as my preferred versions are concerned, I would break it down thusly:

Protocanonical Books: NASB Updated
Most of the Apocrypha: ESV
Tobit and Sirach: NRSV
Psalm 151: RSV

Hate having to keep four bibles on hand, but that's how it goes when you're not fluent in Hebrew and Greek.

 

[calluna]

Yes, it is most disappointing to see that the longer versions of Tobit and Psalm 151 were not included here. Well, as far as my preferred versions are concerned, I would break it down thusly:

Protocanonical Books: NASB Updated
Most of the Apocrypha: ESV
Tobit: NRSV
Psalm 151: RSV

Hate having to keep four bibles on hand, but that's how it goes when you're not fluent in Hebrew and Greek.

There's no need for fluency. A tyro with an interlinear and a lexicon can easily see that any published translation he might pick up bears the marks of Satan's grubby paws. Though surely, any publisher who sees fit to include the Apocrypha in the same volume as the Bible will give a pretty broad hint that not all is well, for any reader.

 

[SummaScriptura]

Yes, it is most disappointing to see that the longer versions of Tobit and Psalm 151 were not included here. Well, as far as my preferred versions are concerned, I would break it down thusly:

Protocanonical Books: NASB Updated
Most of the Apocrypha: ESV
Tobit: NRSV
Psalm 151: RSV

Hate having to keep four bibles on hand, but that's how it goes when you're not fluent in Hebrew and Greek.

Hebrew Scriptures: ESV
Tobit: NETS (contains both the traditional shorter text and the longer text)
Psalm 151: RSV
Ecclesiasticus: NRSV (it has the recovered Hebrew segments)
The Rest of the Bible: ESV

 

[SummaScriptura]

By the way, since the New English Translation of the Septuagint and the ESV with Apocrypha are the same dimensions, I've dropped them off with a local bookbinders to put them in one volume. I'll report back how the job turns out...

 

[calluna]

By the way, since the New English Translation of the Septuagint and the ESV with Apocrypha are the same dimensions, I've dropped them off with a local bookbinders to put them in one volume. I'll report back how the job turns out...

I'm sure it will be a success. Those books deserve each other.

 

[SummaScriptura]

Oh my word! Its simply stupendous! I took my new ESV with Apocrypha (forgive this and later uses of that word) and my NETS to an excellent book binder locally. He bound them together and did a superb job! This is my favorite Bible of all time!

Here's the negatives,

1. The new ESV is printed on paper that has quite a bit of bleed-through
2. The version of Tobit in the ESV is the shorter recension, Sirach lacks the recovered Hebrew fragments.
3. The ESV Apocrypha is a VERY light revision of the RSV Apocrypha, mainly they've updated the English a bit
4. The ESV Apocrypha drops the translation of the Hebrew text of Psalm 151, (from the DSS)
5. Neither the ESV nor the NETS have a thorough cross-reference system

Here's the postives,

1. The RSV Apocrypha is for the most part a great translation of those books
2. The NETS has a translation of the longer version of Tobit
3. The new ESV with Apocrypha contains both the Hebrew and full Greek versions of Esther
4. Having the ESV and the NETS in one volume simply makes comparing the English translations of the MT and LXX a joy, which more than outweighs the above-mentioned negatives

I'll post pics later...

 

[SummaScriptura]

Last week I took two of my favorite Bible versions to the book binder to have them combined into a superb Bible study tool. I had the English Standard Version Bible with Apocrypha bound together with the New English Translation of the Septuagint. They are both published by Oxford and are the same dimensions.

I took them to an excellent book binder locally. He did a superb job! This is my favorite Bible of all time!

Here's the negatives
- The new ESV is printed on paper that has quite a bit of bleed-through
- The NETS, after binding together with the ESV and having the page ends smoothed, looses about a 1/32th of its margins.
- The ESV Apocrypha (forgive this and later uses of that innacurate word) being based upon prior editions of the RSV Apocrypha, means the version of Tobit is the shorter recension and Sirach lacks the recovered Hebrew fragments, (both of which can be had in the NRSV).
- The ESV Apocrypha is a VERY light revision of the RSV Apocrypha, mainly they've updated English vocabulary here and there
- The ESV Apocrypha drops the translation of the Hebrew text of Psalm 151 recovered from the DSS, and which is presnt in the RSV and NRSV
- Neither the ESV nor the NETS have a thorough cross-reference system


Here's the positives
- The RSV Apocrypha is an excellent translation of those books
- The NETS contains a translation of the longer version of Tobit
- The new ESV with Apocrypha contains both the Hebrew and full Greek versions of Esther
- Having the ESV and the NETS in one volume simply makes comparing the English translations of the MT and LXX a joy, which more than outweighs the above-mentioned negatives


For this experiment, I was more concerned with whether this would be a practical undertaking more than I was concerned with aesthetics. I therefore took a fairly cheep route-- hard bound. It turned out very well I feel. I have already had a nice time using the two books in conjunction with one another. I'm already tempted to redo it in pig skin!

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The book binder I used was Herring and Robinson who are local to me: http://www.herringandrobinsonbookbinders.com/

Bob Burns
San Francisco