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Christians around the world ought to lobby our governments to get the UN to create a recognize create a Christian nation in the Middle-East. This nation would take up most of north Israel and Palestine, pieces of south Syria including Damascus, and pies of Lebanon. Each sect and/or denomination of Christian will have at least 3 representatives so no sect and/or denomination rules the theocratic republic known as the Republic of Byzantinium and Galilee.


The Government would be a Dual Theocratic-republican hybrid; unitary presidential republic subject to the patriarch of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church and Orthodox Patriarch of the Holy City of Jerusalem and all Palestine and Israel. Alexandria and Jersuleum shall save as save zones and is partially part of this new republic. Good idea or bad?













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Anthem would be the Aramaic version of the Lord's Prayer:
 
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Christians around the world ought to lobby our governments to get the UN to create a recognize create a Christian nation in the Middle-East. This nation would take up most of north Israel and Palestine, pieces of south Syria including Damascus, and pies of Lebanon. Each sect and/or denomination of Christian will have at least 3 representatives so no sect and/or denomination rules the theocratic republic known as the Republic of Galilee.
The Government would be a Dual Theocratic-republican hybrid; unitary presidential republic subject to the patriarch of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church and Orthodox Patriarch of the Holy City of Jerusalem and all Palestine and Israel. Alexandria and Jersuleum shall save as save zones and is partially part of this new republic. Good idea or bad?













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Anthem would be the Arabic version of the Lord's Prayer:

No matter what we do physically can be compared to what will eventually happen when the new Jerusalem comes down from heaven. Every goverment will be corrupted until He comes back.
 
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Good idea or bad?
shrugs.... bad?

Not apparently in Yahweh's Word, Plan, Purpose, or Design. Not in Prophecy , nor in Yahweh's Visions for the future.
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seek Yahweh and keep seeking , including His Plan from Scripture,
as it looks like
a world wide 'Christian' (in appearance, not in reality at all) group/ organization/ power
will do much of what it looks like you want to happen,
and will be for the purpose of counterfeit,
or for bringing about open worship of the enemy....
This has happened in line with Scripture, and will continue to happen as written in Scripture, in complete harmony with all Scripture and all of Yahweh's Plan and Purpose for he time(s) we live in and the future.
 
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Unfortunetely though we are strangers and pilgrims in this world
REJOICE REJOICE REJOICE with GREAT REJOICING with all GOD'S PEOPLE !

OUR CITIZENSHIP IS IN HEAVEN ! No man can take away our joy, our peace, or our righteousness that was all a gift with Jesus in Salvation , always in Him without measure and without end !
REJOICE !
 
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Christians around the world ought to lobby our governments to get the UN to create a recognize create a Christian nation in the Middle-East. This nation would take up most of north Israel and Palestine, pieces of south Syria including Damascus, and pies of Lebanon. Each sect and/or denomination of Christian will have at least 3 representatives so no sect and/or denomination rules the theocratic republic known as the Republic of Byzantinium and Galilee.


The Government would be a Dual Theocratic-republican hybrid; unitary presidential republic subject to the patriarch of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church and Orthodox Patriarch of the Holy City of Jerusalem and all Palestine and Israel. Alexandria and Jersuleum shall save as save zones and is partially part of this new republic. Good idea or bad?
Lebanon was that place for hundreds of years. A Christian majority nation right in the Middle East. But it didn't fare so well and is now majority Muslim.

Also I don't think your denominational scheme would work at all. And where do the displaced people go? And the Egyptians probably do want to keep Alexandria.
 
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Lebanon which was supposed to originally be a Christian state could be expanded to encompass all of the Orontes river in Syria and Turkey and the Turkish province of Hatay which includes the ancient city of Antioch in it. The Christian state should be populated with both its native Christians, and sects from Syria, Iraq, and Egypt to effectively create a Christian state. I’ve already had this plan in mind for a while.
 
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Terrible idea. Why on earth would we want to go and stake a claim to one of the most disputed territories on earth?

If we want a "Christian nation" we should start it in some territory nobody else actually wants.
 
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Terrible idea. Why on earth would we want to go and stake a claim to one of the most disputed territories on earth?

If we want a "Christian nation" we should start it in some territory nobody else actually wants.
“If you will it, it is no dream.”
Theodore Hertzl
 
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Even though the Middle East is the most disputed territory on Earth, we are practically the oldest community here and we were here prior to Islamic invasions, these might be disputed territories, but to us these our our ancestral lands and although my brethren in the middle est have given up, I for one will not see another day of us being persecuted by Muslims and being forced to beg the Jews for help.
 
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Terrible idea. Why on earth would we want to go and stake a claim to one of the most disputed territories on earth?

If we want a "Christian nation" we should start it in some territory nobody else actually wants.
Like the middle of Australia?
 
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There have been plenty of nominally Christian nations. Look at the whole Byzantine commonwealth.

In my opinion - speaking only of my own communion - close ties between the Church and the government have not been good.
 
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Like the middle of Australia?
The Indigenous folks might have opinions about that. But yeah, I was thinking wilderness of some sort. Maybe, if global warming continues, we could colonise Antarctica.
 
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The Indigenous folks might have opinions about that. But yeah, I was thinking wilderness of some sort. Maybe, if global warming continues, we could colonise Antarctica.
Antarctica is protected by treaties, and every other bit of land on earth is dear to somebody. I know. Find a barely submerged dead volcano in the middle of the ocean, build it up like on huge concrete stilts, and maybe nobody else will care. Or a floating platform. I don't think any other place on earth would work.
 
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Antarctica is protected by treaties, and every other bit of land on earth is dear to somebody. I know. Find a barely submerged dead volcano in the middle of the ocean, build it up like on huge concrete stilts, and maybe nobody else will care. Or a floating platform. I don't think any other place on earth would work.

The Antarctica comment was tongue-in-cheek. But so be it; we don't want to start a Christian nation with conflict and dispossession, do we?
 
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If you will look at the first page of this forum it says it is a place for praying. For praying for horrifically persecuted Christians. Honestly, your idea seems Quixotic to me, but that's irrelevant as, again, this is a place for prayer. If you want advice, perhaps you should go to the Advice Forum. I'm sure you will get many ideas there.
 
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Terrible idea. Why on earth would we want to go and stake a claim to one of the most disputed territories on earth?

If we want a "Christian nation" we should start it in some territory nobody else actually wants.

Agreed! I cannot think of a worse idea. Every time we meddle in the Middle East we create more problems for the people there:

Why Tyrants Rule Arabs

For 60 years, the West has propped up Arab despots, creating poverty and illiteracy where education once thrived

By Gwynne Dyer (Toronto Star --- 20 July 2004)

It was just a random statistic, but a telling one: Only 300 books were translated into Arabic last year. That is about one foreign title per million Arabs. For comparison's sake, Greece translated 1,500 foreign-language books, or about 150 titles per million Greeks. Why is the Arab world so far behind, not only in this but in practically all the arts and sciences? The first-order answer is poverty and lack of education: Almost half of Arabic-speaking women are illiterate.

But the Arab world used to be the most literate part of the planet; what went wrong? Tyranny and economic failure, obviously. But why is tyranny such a problem in the Arab world? That brings us to the nub of the matter. In a speech in November, 2003, President George W. Bush revisited his familiar refrain about how the West has to remake the Arab world in its own image in order to stop the terrorism: "Sixty years of Western nations excusing and accommodating the lack of freedom in the Middle East did nothing to make us safe ... because in the long run, stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty" - as if the Arab world had willfully chosen to be ruled by these corrupt and incompetent tyrannies.

But the West didn't just "excuse and accommodate" these regimes. It created them, in order to protect its own interests - and it spent the latter half of the 20th century keeping them in power for the same reason. It was Britain that carved the kingdom of Jordan out of the old Ottoman province of Syria after World War I and put the Hashemite ruling family on the throne that it still occupies. France similarly carved Lebanon out of Syria in order to create a loyal Christian-majority state that controlled most of the Syrian coastline - and when time and a higher Muslim birth rate eventually led to a revolt against the Maronite Christian stranglehold on power in Lebanon in 1958, U.S. troops were sent in to restore it. The Lebanese civil war of 1975-'90, tangled though it was, was basically a continuation of that struggle. Britain also imposed a Hashemite monarchy on Iraq after 1918, and deliberately perpetuated the political monopoly of the Sunni minority that it had inherited from Turkish rule.

When the Iraqi monarchy was finally overthrown in 1958 and the Baath party won the struggle that followed, the CIA gave the Iraqi Baathists the names of all the senior members of the Iraqi Communist party (then the main political vehicle of the Shias) so they could be liquidated.

It was Britain that turned the traditional sheikhdoms in the Gulf into separate little sovereign states and absolute monarchies, carving Kuwait out of Iraq in the process. Saudi Arabia, however, was a joint Anglo-U.S. project.

The British Foreign Office welcomed the Egyptian generals' overthrow of King Farouk and the destruction of the country's old nationalist political parties, failing to foresee that Gamal Abdul Nasser would eventually take over the Suez Canal. When he did, the foreign office conspired with France and Israel to attack Egypt in a failed attempt to overthrow him. Once Nasser died and was succeeded by generals more willing to play along with the West - Anwar Sadat, and now Hosni Mubarak - Egypt became Washington's favourite Arab state. To help these thinly disguised dictators to hang on to power, Egypt has ranked among the top three recipients of U.S. foreign aid almost every year for the past quarter-century. And so it goes.

Britain welcomed the coup by Col. Mohammar Gadhafi in Libya in 1969, mistakenly seeing him as a malleable young man who could serve the West's purposes. The United States and France both supported the old dictator Habib Bourguiba in Tunisia, and still back his successor Ben Ali today. They always backed the Moroccan monarchy no matter how repressive it became, and they both gave unquestioning support to the Algerian generals who cancelled the elections of 1991. They did not ever waver in their support through the savage insurgency unleashed by the suppression of the elections that killed an estimated 120,000 Algerians over the next 10 years.

"Excuse and accommodate"? The West created the modern Middle East, from its rotten regimes down to its ridiculous borders, and it did so with contemptuous disregard for the wishes of the local people. It is indeed a problem that most Arab governments are corrupt autocracies that breed hatred and despair in their own people, which then fuels terrorism against the West, but it was the West that created the problem - and invading Iraq won't solve it.

If the U.S. really wants to foster Arab democracy, it might try making all that aid to Egypt conditional on prompt democratic reforms. But I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
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Agreed! I cannot think of a worse idea. Every time we meddle in the Middle East we create more problems for the people there:
Then why not give the Christians the option to make a state of their own?
 
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Then why not give the Christians the option to make a state of their own?

Because of necessity it would involve taking land from other nations, displace populations and created even more hatred and conflict. It is a monumentally bad idea.
 
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