Election and evangelism

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Calvinists say Christ died only for the elect.
Arminians say Christ died for everyone potentially, that is Christ died for those who would freely respond to the Gospel positively.

Lutherans say Christ died for everyone. Full stop. That means the work of Jesus Christ is finished and completed, all the sins of every human being from Adam until the End are forgiven. But without the efficacious appropriation of Christ's work to us as individuals this work would be lost and unknown, and therefore the Holy Spirit appropriates and brings home to us what Christ has done. Christ's work is not efficacious only when I accept it, it is efficacious in and of itself--but it affects me personally when in Word and Sacrament the Holy Spirit brings these home, creates faith in me, and I trust upon what Christ has done.

Men are not damned because God wills that some should be damned. Men are damned because they refuse the gifts of God's gracious salvation even to the point of everlasting misery on their part.

Evangelism is, at its core, nothing more than the proclamation of what God has done in Jesus Christ for the world. This holy and precious Gospel goes forth from the lips of the Church to the nations, and the Holy Spirit brings it home to sinners, transforming them from nonbelievers to believers. Thus conversion is nothing other than the work of the Holy Spirit creating faith in faithless sinners.

-CryptoLutheran
Always putting the works in mans hands : this is exactly what is wrong with this doctrine : it always exalts man instead of God !!!
 
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Romans chapters 9 to 11 is Paul speaking about the Jewish nation.
God elected (which means chose) the Nation of Israel to be His first "son".
He chose this nation to reveal Himself and to make salvation possible for the whole world.

No where in these chapters is Paul speaking about personal salvation.
God knew Esau would not be interested in his birthright, so He PREFERRED Jacob and proclaimed that Esau, the older would serve Jacob, the younger - and indeed it did turn out that way when Esau sold his birthright for a bowl of porridge.

Romans 9:1 -- Paul is saying that he would be willing to give up his own salvation for his kinsmen, the Jews. He's telling them that they failed in not accepting Jesus as the Messiah and how he hopes they will come to Him. He tells them the entire history of the nation of Israel.
Standard MO :Take scripture and tear it to pieces with your own ptivate reasonings thereby replacing scripture with the reasonings of men : Mt 15(9) : What Christ thinks about this !
 
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Standard MO :Take scripture and tear it to pieces with your own ptivate reasonings thereby replacing scripture with the reasonings of men : Mt 15(9) : What Christ thinks about this !
1 Timothy 2(11&12): says you are not walking in God's spirit RIGHT NOW !!!
 
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Do you like these scriptures : 1 Tim 2(11&12), 1 Cor 14(34&35) and 1 Peter 3 .
1 Timothy 2:11-13
11A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. 12But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.

1. Are you saying I'm supposed to listen to you even when you're wrong?
I don't think so.

2. I left 13 in there. Do you think Eve is responsible for the fall? If you do, please study some more theology.


1 Corinthians 14:34-35

34The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says.35If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.

Wow. I hope you're not married!!


1 Peter 3
I'll just post verses 1 to 6:


1In the same way, you wives, be submissive to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word, they may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives, 2as they observe your chaste and respectful behavior. 3Your adornment must not be merely external—braiding the hair, and wearing gold jewelry, or putting on dresses; 4but let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious in the sight of God. 5For in this way in former times the holy women also, who hoped in God, used to adorn themselves, being submissive to their own husbands; 6just as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord, and you have become her children if you do what is right without being frightened by any fear.

No further comment...
But I did like verses 7 and 8:

7You husbands in the same way, live with your wives in an understanding way, as with someone weaker, since she is a woman; and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life, so that your prayers will not be hindered.

8To sum up, all of you be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kindhearted, and humble in spirit; 9not returning evil for evil or insult for insult, but giving a blessing instead; for you were called for the very purpose that you might inherit a blessing.
 
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Standard MO :Take scripture and tear it to pieces with your own ptivate reasonings thereby replacing scripture with the reasonings of men : Mt 15(9) : What Christ thinks about this !
Read some commentaries.
It might be of help to you.
You cannot pick out verses because they SEEM to agree with what you think. This is eisegesis.

You're supposed to read the bible and THEN come up with an explanation of what everything means...this is exegesis.

You went to the bible with pre-conceived notions.
The bible is a whole book, not a bunch of verses.

Think of free will. It starts in Genesis and ends in Revelation.
But of course, you don't believe in free will.
 
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Who were before of old ordained to this condemnation and The vessels of wrath fitted to destruction and Rom 9(11-22).These are some verses that come to mind : You could add Eph 1(11), Col 1(17) .
In God's foreknowledge -- which is perfect -- the wicked were already condemned because they would not repent and God knew it. So they were "ordained" for damnation and became "vessels of wrath fit for destruction" (damnation).

But what did the Lord say to His apostles?

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Mk 16:15,16)

What does this passage teach the evangelist?

1. The whole world of humanity must hear the true Gospel.
2. The whole world of humanity is stressed by "every creature". No exceptions.
3. The whole world of humanity may be saved if they obey the Gospel.
4. Obedience to the Gospel means believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. (It also includes repentance toward God which is not mentioned here.)
5. The ones who believe will be saved, and also be then immediately baptized.
6. The ones who do not believe, who despise and reject the Gospel, who turn away from Christ and His offer of eternal life, shall be damned.

This one passage alone tells us that absolutely no one is predestined for Hell.
 
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Could someone please expain how unconditional election and evangelism fit together? Is it the case that of all those that hear the gospel, only the elect would react to it and follow Christ as a result?

The concept of only those who are elected get saved is a false doctrine. No way a loving God or a loving anyone would pick some for heaven and others for hell.

The scripture that speaks of people being predestined to become like Jesus is proof of eternal security. That once a person gets saved God has predestined for them to remain saved and become like Jesus.

Be Blessed.
 
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Everything I believe comes from the bible : I could care less about calvin.
That is such a stupid statement to say that calvin came up with the idea of predestination in 1500 AD ! : This has been a biblical truth from the very beginning , long before calvin was ever thought of !!!
 
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[Staff edit].

Why do you need to be elected, if God forsees your faith anyway?
The purpose of election is to save people that cant save themselves.

How would your “fore-seen” faith not be meritorious?
 
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Could someone please expain how unconditional election and evangelism fit together? Is it the case that of all those that hear the gospel, only the elect would react to it and follow Christ as a result?

Sorry if this has already been addressed as I do not have enough time to read all the responses, but I figured, since I am a Calvinist, and believe the doctrine of unconditional election, you might be interested in my response. Others have probably given good answers, even answers that did not enter my mind, but I would like to give a brief reply. The doctrine of unconditional election is related to eternity and God's knowledge of His choices, that He graciously chose a people from eternity before the foundation of the world, He had mercy on whom He willed to, all by grace for His glory alone. Evangelism on the other hand, so far as we proclaim the Gospel, with the exceptions of our own election and perhaps a few Christians we might know well, we do not know whom God has chosen from eternity, we know not the day or hour from our perspective of a person being drawn to Christ by the Father. We do like to think we know though, but in examining ourselves, it should become clearer the difficulty of inspecting whether or not we think someone is saved or not, or if they will or not be in the future. But God knows, no apostate can fool Him, though many men may have the wool pulled over their eyes, in due time they are exposed. The elect react to the miraculous work of God in regeneration, and follow Christ because of the miraculous work of God done in the heart, mind, and soul. The non-elect are passed over, being left in darkness, even while the Spirit restrains them from giving into the depths of their sinful nature. By evangelizing we are calling into the darkness with a light, the light of Christ, and we have hope in Gospel, and confidence in God, that He will use the foolishness of preaching to call His chosen people out of the darkness and into the light. I hope this helped. God bless.
 
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That is a catholic teaching. Paul teaches that we are eaved by faith alone, so that none may boast. In fact, half of the letter to the Romans is devotes to the topic of salvation by faith alone.
Galatians 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

Don't just scan through the scriptures without comparing scriptures with scriptures. We got washed of our sins by faith that's what the Bible refers to when it says we are saved by faith. It was Peter that called that process SALVATION. If u go on living in sin and claiming you're saved by faith, then you're in for a big shock when Christ comes.
 
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That is such a stupid statement to say that calvin came up with the idea of predestination in 1500 AD ! : This has been a biblical truth from the very beginning , long before calvin was ever thought of !!!
Are you speaking to me again?
Everyone disagreed with Augustine, except those that agree with Calvin, who lived in 1,500 AD...a rather mean person, BTW - very mean.
Again:

HISTORY OF CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE page 165 by George Park Fisher DD LLD. T&T Clark(1). (italics mine)

Inculcated means it was the teaching urged or impressed persistently by the early Church Fathers. Conditional means in God's desire for you, if you work with Him it will happen; if you don't want Him, it cannot happen. Which, of course, is true due to His Self control (Galatians 5:23). Immediately preceding this statement, but after his various quotes from the Early Church Fathers, Dr. Fisher states:

...the renewal of the soul is made to be the result of the factors, divine grace and the exertion of man's free-will. As a rule, the exertion of free-will, human efforts in a right direction, precede the divine aid, and render men worthy of it. It is a doctrine of synergism. God and man cooperate.

(also page 165)(1)

Indeed reading Henry Chadwick's THE EARLY CHURCH (page 38) the index points the first idea of unconditional predestination as appearing from the gnostic sect, not an orthodox body of believers:

...the Gnostics [placed]...the natural order at so vast a distance in moral value from the supreme God. The influence of fatalistic ideas drawn from popular astrology and magic became fused with notions derived from Pauline language about predestination to produce a rigidly deterministic scheme. Redemption was from destiny, not from the consequences of responsible action, and was granted to a pre-determined elect in whom alone was the divine spark.(2)

In fact, when the teaching of Augustine on these things came into the hands of one of his contemporaries, Vincent of Lérins, he expressed it as:

...a most disturbing innovation, quite out of line with 'orthodoxy' which Vincent defined as that body of belief which is held undeviatingly by the universal church.

Chadwick Page 233(2)

Another contemporary, Julian bishop of Eclanum, expressed that Augustine was causing trouble because he 'brought his Manichee ways of thinking into the church... and was denying St Paul's clear teaching that God wills all men to be saved'(2) (Chadwick page 232-3 & 1 Timothy 2:4). The Manichees were a cult Augustine originally belonged to which advocated that:

...the nature of man can be corrupt to the point that his will is powerless to obey God's commands.

Chadwick page 228(2)

This continuing tenet of Augustine theology is an indispensible part of his unconditional predestination thinking, but it is in open defiance to prior teaching in the church concerning man's free-will. Roger T Forster and Paul V Marston in GOD'S STRATEGY IN HUMAN HISTORY quote directly from the following Early Church Fathers(3):
 
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Galatians 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

Don't just scan through the scriptures without comparing scriptures with scriptures. We got washed of our sins by faith that's what the Bible refers to when it says we are saved by faith. It was Peter that called that process SALVATION. If u go on living in sin and claiming you're saved by faith, then you're in for a big shock when Christ comes.

Being justified, aka made righteous, is different from the process thereafter, sometimes called sanctification. We are guilty before God, who is our judge, but through Christ the verdict is “not guilty”. That is one moment that happens when we give pur lives to Christ.
Galatians was written by Paul. In fact, he addressed a very similar issue in Romans 6:1-2.
“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?”
Do you think he’d contradict himself?
He is addressing the main argument against being saved by faith, namely that if we are saved by grace, why not continue sinning. The situation described in Galatians is about the Jews going further and saying that if his identification with Christ led him into sin, then Christ was the cause of his sin.
This would be true, but Paul already gave an answer that shatters this statement in Romans 6:1-2.
It was said in the OT that the Christ would come and free the prisoners, among other things (Isiah 42:7). Such is the case that by professing our faith in Christ and dying to sin, we are no longer under the power of our slavemaster, which is our sin, but through Christ have the power to resist.
Being made righteous does not mean being holy. Upon receiving Christ and dying to sin through his crucifiction start the Christians life, which is marked by the conflict of the soul that is made righteous against the sinful flesh. THAT is the process that lasts a lifetime. But only by putting our faith in Christ can we get started in the first place.
Saying that being saved is the result of a lifetime of work is to ignore a good chunk of the NT and devalues the free gift of salvation. Or are you saying that Christ’s death for our sins was imperfect and requires some help from us?
 
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No one comes to God by their own volition. Those that do were chosen by God to do so. Unless God chooses to draw closer, we will not. I know that it is a debate and that especially Catholics deny it. Seems biblical though. Romans 9:11-13; Romans 9:16; Romans 10:20; 1 Corinthians 1:27-29; 2 Timothy 1:9; Mark 13:20; Ephesians 1:4-5; Revelation 13:8; Revelation 17:8 and probably a few other.
Some are chosen, others are left to their sin. Exodus 33:19; Deuteronomy 7:6-7; Romans 9:10-24; Acts 13:48; 1 Peter 2:8.

My question is how the spreading of the gospel, aka evangelism, fits into that. We are told to do it, so it can not be pointless. But if those that would believe are already chosen, what is the point of spreading the gospel? So that the elect can hear and believe it?

offer that...

Calvinism is correct in principle -- fallen sinful people are utterly incapable of acknowledging God (1 John 4:10, "not that we loved God, but that He loved us")

Lutherans & other Christians are correct in practice -- God gracefully chooses to "infuse" all human hearts / minds / souls with "Calvinistic spiritual regeneration" (John 12:32, Jesus does "draw all mankind unto" Himself), such that all "spiritually boosted / Calvinistically augmented" humans then, after that generous fact, have a "fighting psychological chance" to acknowledge God...

'tis a "free gift" which humans ought to acknowledge (Rom 5:15-16)

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Now, w/o wanting to offend anyone, it's maybe not entirely unlike saying, that all humans are inherently a bunch of "zombies" who "can't do much more than breathe" on their own... but that God in heaven generously sends "consciousness into their brains"... after which fact, the "animated & now-conscious ex-zombies" have what amounts to "free will" to acknowledge God or refuse to

At this point, sharing the Gospel with people is [also] necessary for them to be saved (1 Thess 2:16, "speak to the gentiles that they might be saved" = Rom 10:14-17, "how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? ... faith comes by hearing the message").
  • "within" -- God in heaven gracefully infuses all humans' souls with "Calvinistic spiritual regeneration" [direct, enables Salvation as a possibility in principle]
  • "without" -- Christians on earth philanthropically share the Gospel with those "spiritually augmented" humans [indirect, actualizes Salvation as a fact in practice]
I guess it would by hypothetically possible for God in heaven to Prophetically transmit the contents of the entire Bible directly into the minds of every human on Earth, so that everybody upon the planet came to know the name of Jesus Christ and the Apostles without any further human efforts or actions... but I understand Scripture states God chose not to do things that way... instead God Prophetically transmits a "spiritual enabling" to all humans (John 12:32)... with a reliance upon human evangelists to then "fill in the details", sharing the message of Scripture and the Gospel.

Please observe also that believing the Gospel in your heart "justifies" you, and professing your belief "saves" you (Rom 10:9-10). But to believe the Gospel, you have to hear it... after God "Calvinistically regenerates" you & everyone spiritually... and to hear the Gospel some other previous Christian must share the message with you...

God "paves the way" with a universal application of "spiritual regeneration" to all humanity (John 12:32)... "necessary but not sufficient"... Christian evangelism is then also required to capitalize on that regeneration and guide souls towards the message of Scripture the Gospel
 
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Being justified, aka made righteous, is different from the process thereafter, sometimes called sanctification. We are guilty before God, who is our judge, but through Christ the verdict is “not guilty”. That is one moment that happens when we give pur lives to Christ.
Galatians was written by Paul. In fact, he addressed a very similar issue in Romans 6:1-2.
“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?”
Do you think he’d contradict himself?
He is addressing the main argument against being saved by faith, namely that if we are saved by grace, why not continue sinning. The situation described in Galatians is about the Jews going further and saying that if his identification with Christ led him into sin, then Christ was the cause of his sin.
This would be true, but Paul already gave an answer that shatters this statement in Romans 6:1-2.
It was said in the OT that the Christ would come and free the prisoners, among other things (Isiah 42:7). Such is the case that by professing our faith in Christ and dying to sin, we are no longer under the power of our slavemaster, which is our sin, but through Christ have the power to resist.
Being made righteous does not mean being holy. Upon receiving Christ and dying to sin through his crucifiction start the Christians life, which is marked by the conflict of the soul that is made righteous against the sinful flesh. THAT is the process that lasts a lifetime. But only by putting our faith in Christ can we get started in the first place.
Saying that being saved is the result of a lifetime of work is to ignore a good chunk of the NT and devalues the free gift of salvation. Or are you saying that Christ’s death for our sins was imperfect and requires some help from us?

Romans 10 states that we are "justified" by believing the Gospel message we hear, from preaching Christian evangelists...

and that we are "saved" by professing that belief...

Both "justification" & "salvation" pre-suppose a prior "Calvinistic spiritual regeneration" enabling fallen sinful persons to acknowledge God (1 John 4:10)... which, of course, has been gracefully dispensed to all mankind since the Crucifixion (John 12:32) as a generous "free gift"
  1. Calvinistic spiritual regeneration [direct from God in heaven]
  2. Justification, by believing the Gospel preached [from Christians on earth]
  3. Salvation, by professing said belief [= preaching the Gospel on earth]
 
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Being justified, aka made righteous, is different from the process thereafter, sometimes called sanctification. We are guilty before God, who is our judge, but through Christ the verdict is “not guilty”. That is one moment that happens when we give pur lives to Christ.
Galatians was written by Paul. In fact, he addressed a very similar issue in Romans 6:1-2.
“What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?”
Do you think he’d contradict himself?
He is addressing the main argument against being saved by faith, namely that if we are saved by grace, why not continue sinning. The situation described in Galatians is about the Jews going further and saying that if his identification with Christ led him into sin, then Christ was the cause of his sin.
This would be true, but Paul already gave an answer that shatters this statement in Romans 6:1-2.
It was said in the OT that the Christ would come and free the prisoners, among other things (Isiah 42:7). Such is the case that by professing our faith in Christ and dying to sin, we are no longer under the power of our slavemaster, which is our sin, but through Christ have the power to resist.
Being made righteous does not mean being holy. Upon receiving Christ and dying to sin through his crucifiction start the Christians life, which is marked by the conflict of the soul that is made righteous against the sinful flesh. THAT is the process that lasts a lifetime. But only by putting our faith in Christ can we get started in the first place.
Saying that being saved is the result of a lifetime of work is to ignore a good chunk of the NT and devalues the free gift of salvation. Or are you saying that Christ’s death for our sins was imperfect and requires some help from us?
I agree with all you've said, but @Oloyedelove is saying that if we live a LIFE OF SIN, how could we say that we're saved?
2 Peter 3:17
Do you not agree with this?
 
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Always putting the works in mans hands : this is exactly what is wrong with this doctrine : it always exalts man instead of God !!!
maybe just one more time... I offer that...

Calvinism is correct in principle -- fallen sinful mankind can't acknowledge God until God gracefully chooses to "infuse their souls" with "Calvinistic spiritual regeneration" (1 John 4:10)

"Arminianism" [from what you quoted] is correct in practice -- God has been gracefully regenerating all humanity since the Crucifixion (John 12:32)... such that all humans are now "Calvinistically augmented" and do then, subsequently, afterwards, have the potential to choose to acknowledge God or otherwise... "pseudo-free-will" or "enabled free will" or some such
  1. regenerative Grace from God in heaven (John 12:32)
  2. hear Gospel preached by humans on earth
    • be justified by belief [=passive] & saved by professing that belief [= active evangelizing yourself] (Rom 10)
    • be "opposite of saved" by rejecting the Gospel & refusing to believe, much less profess the Gospel to others
According to this picture, all humans receive the Grace of God, freely, as a surprising & personally unearned gift (John 12:32)...

perhaps having something to do with the faith & self-sacrifice of Jesus Christ submitting himself to the Cross (Luke 22:42, "not my will but Thine be done") due to his strong, Abraham-like trust & faith in God (Rom 4:22, "this is why it was 'credited to him as righteousness [=justification]")...

vaguely as if the "earned reward of Grace" to Jesus Christ has been Grace-iously broadened to all mankind, "Jesus' whole entire species" as it were...

at any rate, Grace is a necessary but not sufficient prerequisite for Salvation... one must then choose to capitalize on said free gift of Grace, by first passively internally believing, which imputes Sanctification / Justification / Righteousness...

and second actively externally professing your belief = evangelizing, which imputes Salvation
 
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I agree with all you've said, but @Oloyedelove is saying that if we live a LIFE OF SIN, how could we say that we're saved?
2 Peter 3:17
Do you not agree with this?

We all stumble from time to time, but we come back in repentance. By “living a life of sin” I presume a life where you are well aware of the consequences, but you care not and continue to sin. No, this means you are not saved. This is what James was saying with regards to saving faith as opposed to demon faith and dead faith, as well as what Jesus was saying with the parable of the sower.
Should we continue in sin so that grace may abound? If you do, you never died to sin and this means you never had saving faith to begin with.
Again, I do not mean stumbling and getting up in repentance. I mean conscious sinning and not caring about the consequence or remaining unaware of it due to a hardness of heart, despite hearing it.
 
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Galatians 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

Don't just scan through the scriptures without comparing scriptures with scriptures. We got washed of our sins by faith that's what the Bible refers to when it says we are saved by faith. It was Peter that called that process SALVATION. If u go on living in sin and claiming you're saved by faith, then you're in for a big shock when Christ comes.
yes, almost exactly...

please compare with Rom 10:10 = Gal 2:15-16, justification = passive internal belief, in the Gospel you hear preached...

salvation = active external evangelization, professing your belief to others

I'd understand Gal 2:17+ to be warning, that if while we're first learning the Gospel and trying to come to terms with it & seeking to internally passively accept it & believe it...

that we then actively sin, professing (by words & louder deeds) non-Christian behaviors...

that, no, such doesn't actually reflect back on Jesus Christ... nay, instead the "back-sliding" makes the "back-slider" the "transgressor"
 
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@Erik Nelson So what you are saying is that all people can come to God and those that do are the elect that bible speaks of? This is the point where my knowledge stops and I can not confirm or deny. What I can say is that while the doctrine of unconditional election seems biblical, it contradicts with Christ having died for all, God loving all and wanting all coming to repentance, as well as Sola Gratia, which is also biblical.
Or did God forsee who will have faith and chose on that basis? But wouldn’t that contradict the doctrine of free will?

All of those are found somewhere in the bible, but I have trouble reconciling them on a biblical basis. I’d rather not look at denominational teachings, as the bible takes precidence for me. Sola Scriptura and all ;)
 
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@Erik Nelson So what you are saying is that all people can come to God and those that do are the elect that bible speaks of? This is the point where my knowledge stops and I can not confirm or deny. What I can say is that while the doctrine of unconditional election seems biblical, it contradicts with Christ having died for all, God loving all and wanting all coming to repentance, as well as Sola Gratia, which is also biblical.
Or did God forsee who will have faith and chose on that basis? But wouldn’t that contradict the doctrine of free will?

All of those are found somewhere in the bible, but I have trouble reconciling them on a biblical basis. I’d rather not look at denominational teachings, as the bible takes precidence for me. Sola Scriptura and all ;)

I'm not entirely familiar with all of those terms... especially "elect" & "sanctification-holiness".. a quick BLB Strong's search suggests "elect = faith / belief => righteous justification":

Rev 17:14 = "they that are with Him [Christ] are called, elect & faithful"

1 Tit 1:1 = "Paul, a servant of God, and an Apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect"
Rom 10:10 = "with the heart a man is faithful unto righteousness, and with the mouth profess unto salvation"​

Once someone believes & becomes justified before God, they receive the Holy Spirit which keeps them holy-sanctified:

1 Pet 1:2 = "elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in holiness-sanctification of the Spirit, to obedience & sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ"

CONCLUSION (???):
  1. If you choose God, God chooses & "elects" you
  2. God knows ahead of time who will choose Him

FREE WILL (??):

I think Calvinism is more accurate on this particular issue. Not even the elect, those who wind up eventually choosing God, were able to choose God on their own sinful fallen selves, e.g.
  • 1 John 4:10 = "not that we loved God, but that He loved us"
  • John 6:44 = "no man can come to me unless the Father who hath sent me draw him"
However, exactly that has been happening since the Crucifixion:
  • John 12:32 = "when I am lifted up, will draw all men unto myself"
So, in principle, humans cannot even choose God without Divine assistance in the form of "Calvinistic spiritual regeneration" (as it were)... but, in practice, all humans have been receiving exactly such Divine assistance since the Crucifixion.

If so, then sinful fallen humans do not natively possess independent autonomous "free will". However, God has been gifting humanity with a "Calvinistic spiritual regenerative boost" (as it were) for the past 2000 years. And, being "spiritually augmented", Divinely assisted humans are capable of free will.

I understand that free gift of Divine assistance, in the form of "Calvinistic spiritual regeneration" (so to speak), as Grace.

If so, Grace is the prerequisite first of many steps towards Salvation. It has been a free gift to all humanity since the Crucifixion. What about Salvation?
  • Rom 10:10 = Justification by Faith in Jesus Christ, Salvation by professing that Faith [= evangelizing]
So, I offer that you could state:

Salvation by Grace through [actively] professed Faith [Eph 2:8 + Rom 10:10]​
 
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