Election 2022 Results

[HARK!]

What puzzles me is why after two days, MD is still having difficulty counting those last 28,000 votes.

U.S. election 2022: Live results and maps

They didn't seem to have any difficulty declaring the Blue wins right away.

 

[Bradskii]

Keep reading. You quoted the preamble to a yet unanswered question.

You are free to take a stab at answering this perplexing question yourself, if you are capable.

You think it's perplexing?

Where do you think we'll be in 50 years? Still digging coal? Still issuing oil leases? Still driving huge trucks burning diesel? Texas has the right idea. Same as South Australia which on times has exceeded the state's energy requirements in renewables alone.

There is no debate amongst reasonable people as to where we are headed. The only question is how quickly we need to get there and how much effort we are prepared to put into making the transition.

Unfortunately, particularly on your side of the political fence, people are still arguing about the need to do anything whatsoever. They are in denial and are a drag on progress. The more consensus we have on what needs to be done, the quicker we are going to get it done.

Does that mean closing mines? Well, they'll go under as they become less profitable. So what do we do about the miners? Any suggestions? What do we do about solar panel installations? Any ideas? What do we do about hybrid cars? Want to make a few comments? How do you cover long truck routes with charging stations? Have you thought about it?

I've got ideas on all those. Some already in operation. But I'm not going to waste my time discussing how we do something with someone who thinks there's no need to do it in the first place.

So tell me that you're on board and we can knock a few ideas about. Run a few things up the flagpole and see if they flap.

So are you on board?

 

[HARK!]

There is always lack of honor & integrity in people - of all sides. The increase of money is exacerbating the problem. The increase in money is increasing the creativity, risks and lawlessness to achieve the desired results.

All sides? I try to avoid absolute statements. The side with honor does not lack honor. The side with integrity does not lack integrity. Why try to shift blame away from where blame should be placed, onto those who don't deserve it? To me, that doesn't seem like an honorable thing to do.

The increase in money is due to Biden's inflation; but even though inflation can be a factor in recessions; that doesn't mean that there is more money to spend on creative new ideas

 

[HARK!]

Unfortunately, particularly on your side of the political fence, people are still arguing about the need to do anything whatsoever. They are in denial and are a drag on progress. The more consensus we have on what needs to be done, the quicker we are going to get it done.

Texas is on my side of the political fence?

Are you avoiding my question?

 

[GDL]

All sides? I try to avoid absolute statements. The side with honor does not lack honor. The side with integrity does not lack integrity. Why try to shift blame away from where blame should be placed, onto those who don't deserve it? To me, that doesn't seem like an honorable thing to do.

The increase in money is due to Biden's inflation; but even though inflation can be a factor in recessions; that doesn't mean that there is more money to spend on creative new ideas

I too normally try to avoid absolute statements. My statement was about people within the sides. I'm comfortable saying that within each camp are dishonorable people.

The increase in money I mentioned is due to relatively recent legislation that opened the floodgates of political funding. You'll find articles estimating the costs of the 2020 elections to be in the $14billion range. There are estimates floating around that about $200million was spent on the Abrams and O'Rourke losing campaigns of 2022. Whatever the true numbers are, assuming these stated amounts are even close, it's ludicrous. How could anyone expect there not to be corruption?

 

[HARK!]

I too normally try to avoid absolute statements. My statement was about people within the sides. I'm comfortable saying that within each camp are dishonorable people.

Why the red herrings? Why not just address those Democrats who are undermining Democracy with these tactics?

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

It appears that the Democrats have been funneling money into Republican elections, in an attempt to overthrow Democracy.

Democrats' strategy of spending millions to boost pro-Trump candidates in Republican primaries appeared to pay off Tuesday as the party ended the night with a clean sweep of the races in which it chose to meddle.

CLEAN SWEEP: Democratic meddling in GOP primaries paid off in a big way on Election Day

Plan would have completely backfired if Republicans were only smart enough to not nominate completely unelectable people. Democrats just put money up, Republicans we’re able to vote for whoever they wanted and they choose poorly. It was Republicans fault they let themselves get played like this.

If you want to stop this, get dark money out of politics. Unfortunately for you, Republicans don’t want to do that. Even better to end this is to go to only public funding for campaigns but Republicans are really against that.

 

[HARK!]

Plan would have completely backfired if Republicans were only smart enough to not nominate completely unelectable people.

Am I to understand that you are blaming the victims of this deception, as to condone the actions of Democrats who undermine Democracy?

If so, do you also blame the victims of con artists, for being victims?

If you want to stop this, get dark money out of politics. Unfortunately for you, Republicans don’t want to do that.

I know for a fact that you don't speak for all Republicans when you say that they support unions, and social welfare organizations, funding Liberal campaigns.

 

[HARK!]

The words and the demeanor of this candidate are music to my ears.

I pray that she wins this race.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Am I to understand that you are blaming the victims of this deception, as to condone the actions of Democrats who undermine Democracy?

If so, do you also blame the victims of con artists, for being victims?

What victims? Republicans voted for the people they wanted to nominate for the general election. If they can’t discern well enough that maybe voting for the rightest leaning person they can find might be a bad move for the general election, the Democrats money didn’t cause the problem, that’s a Republican Party problem. It isn’t the Democrats job to save Republicans from themselves. How about the party of “Personal Responsibility” actually listen to the slogan they bash other people with and take responsibility for picking bad candidates.

I know for a fact that you don't speak for all Republicans when you say that they support unions, and social welfare organizations, funding Liberal campaigns.

I told you how you could solve this problem, remove dark money from politics and only public funding for campaigns. Both would make this impossible for anyone to do. Currently Republicans stand against both things. I have no clue what unions and welfare programs have to do with this

 

[HARK!]

the Democrats money didn’t cause the problem

LOL! @ that ridiculous statement.

Perhaps you can explain why Democrats were funding Trump endorsees.

 

[Bradskii]

Texas is on my side of the political fence?

Are you avoiding my question?

I gave you lots of talking points. I said I have ideas about all of them and more. And I told you I wasn't the slightest bit interested in discussing them with anyone who thinks it's a path we shouldn't be taking.

And then I asked you if you want to discuss any of them. Just let me know, ok?

 

[HARK!]

I gave you lots of talking points. I said I have ideas about all of them and more. And I told you I wasn't the slightest bit interested in discussing them with anyone who thinks it's a path we shouldn't be taking.

And then I asked you if you want to discuss any of them. Just let me know, ok?

That still doesn't answer my question; but thanks for trying.

 

[Bradskii]

That still doesn't answer my question; but thanks for trying.

If your question is how we tackle renewables and you actually want to discuss it, then let's do it. I don't know the details of Texan renewables but it seems they're heading in the right direction. I know a lot about Australian progress and it's the way we all need to go.

There's a basic answer to a complex problem. Now do you want to discuss details or not?

 

[GDL]

Why the red herrings? Why not just address those Democrats who are undermining Democracy with these tactics?

There are only perceived red herrings. If it will put you at ease, the current administration and all of the godless agendas disgust me but don't surprise me.

My comments are easy to see as discussing an overall problem that has come about under a 2-party rule while the populace slept & watched TV for many, many years. Some of the awakening seems to be numbers of people finally pushed to pay attention and establish a solid line between 2 ideologies and thereby get back to 2 distinct parties and start unwinding an entrenched bureaucracy. It's a huge task & fight at this point. IMO Trump did not realize enough of the problem, but the beast greatly exposed itself in its hatred for him.

Let's face it, the Republican party has been weak for some time and needs an overhaul and some more real fighters to join the few there now. I was wondering for years when the marriage issues would turn into gender issues and then when parents would wake up to mixed bathrooms in schools. It actually progressed beyond where I thought it would before the needed backlash. Anyway, many issues.

Maybe you'll find this article interesting as it looks at another angle of where things may be.

Thread by @Doc_0 on Thread Reader App

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

LOL! @ that ridiculous statement.

Perhaps you can explain why Democrats were funding Trump endorsees.

They’d rather run against Trump endorsees. Why did Republicans nominate Trump endorsees?

 

[Bradskii]

They’d rather run against Trump endorsees. Why did Republicans nominate Trump endorsees?

They misread the mood. Now they know better.

 

[Desk trauma]

They misread the mood. Now they know better.

I hope not.

 

[HARK!]

If your question is how we tackle renewables and you actually want to discuss it, then let's do it.

It seems that you still haven't finished reading the post that you responded to.

Here is the preamble to my question, and the question.

Texas, an oil rich Republican controlled state, with its' own power grid, leads the nation in wind power, and is quickly expanding in solar power. What Democrat controlled states are putting "their" money, where "their" mouths are, to catch up with Texas?

I'm simply looking for an answer to my question. If you are having difficulty providing an answer; there's no pressure for you to give an irrelevant answer, nor change the subject.

 

[HARK!]

They’d rather run against Trump endorsees. Why did Republicans nominate Trump endorsees?

Manipulating elections in that way would seem to undermine Democracy. Wouldn't you agree?