Early Church Fathers and Reformers Misogynistic Quotes

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Joseph is legal father to Jesus, not biological.

Your mother is only the mother of myst33 in a biological, bodily sense, but that is what make her your mother.
Yes, mother of my body. Not of my spirit or soul or being.
 
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Good, we agree, then, that the title "mother of God" should not be used, because she was mother of his body, only.
No, she is the mother of the person, Jesus Christ,who is God become man. Your mother is not the mother of myst33's body only, she is the mother of myst33.
 
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Good, we agree, then, that the title "mother of God" should not be used, because she was mother of his body, only. It should not be used more than "father of God" for Joseph, because he was his father legally, only.

well, no. the Person of the Word was truly born of her, making her truly His Mother, unlike Joseph.
 
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They were human. They had ideas centered around how woman were thought of in that time. To me, it has nothing to do with our faith.

Its just like when the Pope says something that is personal to his 'own' thoughts. Its not gospel.
 
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right, while being human He did not cease to be God. the Divine "He" took flesh and made it His own in the Womb of His Mother.
He did not cease to be God.
But if He had come as God, the earth would have perished because the earth is in sin.
Hence the elaborate protocols for the priests to be able to survive God's presence in the Holy of Holies in the temple.
Hence the destruction of the sinful at his 2nd coming, where He will return in the full Glory.
So He came as a human humble servant, the 2nd Adam.
Came "as" , yet being God too.
But He already was God before He came as Jesus son of Mary, the seed of the woman.
and if you scroll up, yes it is the Theotokos topic.
Then there's also another topic about it, with "Theotokos" in the title.
 
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He did not cease to be God.
But if He had come as God, the earth would have perished because the earth is in sin.
Hence the elaborate protocols for the priests to be able to survive God's presence in the Holy of Holies in the temple.
Hence the destruction of the sinful at his 2nd coming, where He will return in the full Glory.
So He came as a human humble servant, the 2nd Adam.
Came "as" , yet being God too.
But He already was God before He came as Jesus son of Mary, the seed of the woman.Then there's also another topic about it, with "Theotokos" in the title.

He did come as God. He claimed to be God and did things only God can do.
 
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so where was your soul when your body was in your mother's womb?
Confusing terms.
Man is a living soul.
This apparently consists of a body plus "the breath of life".
This breath of life is spirit(ual).
 
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No, she is the mother of the person, Jesus Christ,who is God become man. Your mother is not the mother of myst33's body only, she is the mother of myst33.
So, you believe that you got your soul and/or spirit from your parents? That your biological parents gave you your existence and your substance?

I dont. I believe that we got only bodies from our parents. (Not talking about behaviour influences in childhood, of course)
 
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He did come as God. He claimed to be God and did things only God can do.
I think Elysha (not sure if that's the right spelling in English) did similar things, even coming back from death.
He was not God though.

Confusing semantics, i guess..
Yes, He is God, but He came "as" a man rather than "as" God.
People don't survive the Prescence of God.
 
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Confusing terms.
Man is a living soul.
This apparently consists of a body plus "the breath of life".
This breath of life is spirit(ual).

yeah, so where is that aspect of someone when in the womb?
 
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I think Elysha (not sure if that's the right spelling in English) did similar things, even coming back from death.
He was not God though.

Confusing semantics, i guess..
Yes, He is God, but He came "as" a man rather than "as" God.
People don't survive the Prescence of God.

do you mean Elijah or Elisha? because I don't ever remember either doing what God can do.
 
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So, you believe that you got your soul and/or spirit from your parents? That your biological parents gave you your existence and your substance?

I dont. I believe that we got only bodies from our parents. (Not talking about behaviour influences in childhood, of course)
Since every cell in your body was replaced by the age of seven, by that logic she has ceased to even be the mother of your body.

God made Adam from the clay. He then took flesh from Adam and formed Eve. From that time on, God takes flesh from both the mother and father to create children. In every case they are created by God, but that does not take away from who a child's mother and father are.
 
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so if your soul is in your body, and your body is being born by your mother, how is she not bearing your soul as well?
Soul is immaterial, its origin is not in body. Its given by God. Body is only its temporal "house".
 
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I think Elysha (not sure if that's the right spelling in English) did similar things, even coming back from death.
I believe you are mistaken.
People don't survive the Prescence of God.
Not true.
Genesis 32:22-30
 
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