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Drinking of Wine

Discussion in 'Deeper Fellowship' started by GraftMeIn, Jan 29, 2003.

  1. GraftMeIn

    GraftMeIn The Masters Gardener

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    In the Our Daily Bread thread we spoke about how Jesus is the Bread of Life. And how he was the Word of God come to us in the flesh.

    We then looked at, in the Breaking Bread Together thread, the aspects of  how when we study and read Gods Word together we are breaking bread together in a Spiritual manner.

    Here are links to those two threads in case you haven't read them yet. As this thread goes hand in hand with the others.

    Our Daily Bread
    Breaking Bread Together


    Let's now take a look at the deeper Spiritual side of drinking wine together. Something we are told to do along with the breaking of bread.

    John 2:3-4
    And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.

    Have you ever wondered why Jesus turned water into wine? Ever wonder about the comment he made in the above scripture "mine hour has not yet come" before doing so. This was simply to signify things that were yet to come. His hour, that He was speaking of was when He would receive His Glory.

    The following scripture should help us understand more about the Living Waters, that are of the Holy Spirit, only to be received by the blood of Christ. The Holy Spirit being the Spirit of truth, would be the true water that would later be turned into wine. Hence the phrase "becoming drunk in the spirit"

    John 7:37-39
    In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

    If we continue on with this next scripture we can see that Jesus is speaking of his blood, and refers to drinking the fruit of the vine, wine is what comes from the fruit of the vine. But we can only receive this new wine in recognition of the blood he shed for us.

    Matthew 26:27-29
    And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

    Jesus now sits in His Father's Kingdom. We now have full access to the new wine, which is also in a spiritual sense the living waters he spoke of that we should receive. By the shedding of His blood.

    I have always found it interesting that both blood and water came from Jesus side when it was pierced. Even in this there is a greater significance.

    John 19:34
    But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.
     
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  2. altya

    altya Servant of God

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    The common Hebrew word for wine is _yayin_, from a root meaning "to boil up," "to be in a ferment." Others obtain it from a root meaning "to tread out," and hence the juice of the grape trodden out. The Greek word for wine is _oinos_, and the Latin _vinun_. But besides this common Hebrew word, there are several others which are thus rendered.
    (1.) Ashishah (2 Sam. 6:19; 1 Chr. 16:3; Cant. 2:5; Hos. 3:1), which, however, rather denotes a solid cake of pressed grapes, or, as in the Revised Version, a cake of raisins.


    (2.) 'Asis, "sweet wine," or "new wine," the product of the same year (Cant. 8:2; Isa. 49:26; Joel 1:5; 3:18; Amos 9:13), from a root meaning "to tread," hence juice trodden out or pressed out, thus referring to the method by which the juice is obtained. The power of intoxication is ascribed to it.

    (3.) Hometz. See VINEGAR.

    (4.) Hemer, Deut. 32:14 (rendered "blood of the grape") Isa. 27:2 ("red wine"), Ezra 6:9; 7:22; Dan. 5:1, 2, 4. This word conveys the idea of "foaming," as in the process of fermentation, or when poured out. It is derived from the root _hamar_, meaning "to boil up," and also "to be red," from the idea of boiling or becoming inflamed.

    (5.) 'Enabh, a grape (Deut. 32:14). The last clause of this verse should be rendered as in the Revised Version, "and of the blood of the grape ['enabh] thou drankest wine [hemer]." In Hos. 3:1 the phrase in Authorized Version, "flagons of wine," is in the Revised Version correctly "cakes of raisins." (Comp. Gen. 49:11; Num. 6:3; Deut. 23:24, etc., where this Hebrew word is rendered in the plural "grapes.")

    (6.) Mesekh, properly a mixture of wine and water with spices that increase its stimulating properties (Isa. 5:22). Ps. 75:8, "The wine [yayin] is red; it is full of mixture [mesekh];" Prov. 23:30, "mixed wine;" Isa. 65:11, "drink offering" (R.V., "mingled wine").

    (7.) Tirosh, properly "must," translated "wine" (Deut. 28:51); "new wine" (Prov. 3:10); "sweet wine" (Micah 6:15; R.V., "vintage"). This Hebrew word has been traced to a root meaning "to take possession of" and hence it is supposed that tirosh is so designated because in intoxicating it takes possession of the brain. Among the blessings promised to Esau (Gen. 27:28) mention is made of "plenty of corn and tirosh." Palestine is called "a land of corn and tirosh" (Deut. 33:28; comp. Isa. 36:17). See also Deut. 28:51; 2 Chr. 32:28; Joel 2:19; Hos. 4:11, ("wine [yayin] and new wine [tirosh] take away the heart").

    (8.) Sobhe (root meaning "to drink to excess," "to suck up," "absorb"), found only in Isa. 1:22, Hos. 4:18 ("their drink;" Gesen. and marg. of R.V., "their carouse"), and Nah. 1:10 ("drunken as drunkards;" lit., "soaked according to their drink;" R.V., "drenched, as it were, in their drink", i.e., according to their sobhe).

    (9.) Shekar, "strong drink," any intoxicating liquor; from a root meaning "to drink deeply," "to be drunken", a generic term applied to all fermented liquors, however obtained. Num. 28:7, "strong wine" (R.V., "strong drink"). It is sometimes distinguished from wine, c.g., Lev. 10:9, "Do not drink wine [yayin] nor strong drink [shekar];" Num. 6:3; Judg. 13:4, 7; Isa. 28:7 (in all these places rendered "strong drink"). Translated "strong drink" also in Isa. 5:11; 24:9; 29:9; 56:12; Prov. 20:1; 31:6; Micah 2:11.
    (10.) Yekebh (Deut. 16:13, but in R.V. correctly "wine-press"), a vat into which the new wine flowed from the press. Joel 2:24, "their vats;" 3:13, "the fats;" Prov. 3:10, "Thy presses shall burst out with new wine [tirosh];" Hag. 2:16; Jer. 48:33, "wine-presses;" 2 Kings 6:27; Job. 24:11.

    (11.) Shemarim (only in plural), "lees" or "dregs" of wine. In Isa. 25:6 it is rendered "wines on the lees", i.e., wine that has been kept on the lees, and therefore old wine.

    (12.) Mesek, "a mixture," mixed or spiced wine, not diluted with water, but mixed with drugs and spices to increase its strength, or, as some think, mingled with the lees by being shaken (Ps. 75:8; Prov. 23:30).
    In Acts 2:13 the word _gleukos_, rendered "new wine," denotes properly "sweet wine." It must have been intoxicating.


    In addition to wine the Hebrews also made use of what they called _debash_, which was obtained by boiling down must to one-half or one-third of its original bulk. In Gen. 43:11 this word is rendered "honey." It was a kind of syrup, and is called by the Arabs at the present day dibs. This word occurs in the phrase "a land flowing with milk and honey" (debash), Ex. 3:8, 17; 13:5; 33:3; Lev. 20:24; Num. 13: 27. (See HONEY.)
    Our Lord miraculously supplied wine at the marriage feast in Cana of Galilee (John 2:1-11). The Rechabites were forbidden the use of wine (Jer. 35). The Nazarites also were to abstain from its use during the period of their vow (Num. 6:1-4); and those who were dedicated as Nazarites from their birth were perpetually to abstain from it (Judg. 13:4, 5; Luke 1:15; 7:33). The priests, too, were forbidden the use of wine and strong drink when engaged in their sacred functions (Lev. 10:1, 9-11). "Wine is little used now in the East, from the fact that Mohammedans are not allowed to taste it, and very few of other creeds touch it. When it is drunk, water is generally mixed with it, and this was the custom in the days of Christ also. The people indeed are everywhere very sober in hot climates; a drunken person, in fact, is never seen", (Geikie's Life of Christ). The sin of drunkenness, however, must have been not uncommon in the olden times, for it is mentioned either metaphorically or literally more than seventy times in the Bible.

    A drink-offering of wine was presented with the daily sacrifice (Ex. 29:40, 41), and also with the offering of the first-fruits (Lev. 23:13), and with various other sacrifices (Num. 15:5, 7, 10). Wine was used at the celebration of the Passover. And when the Lord's Supper was instituted, the wine and the unleavened bread then on the paschal table were by our Lord set apart as memorials of his body and blood.
    Several emphatic warnings are given in the New Testament against excess in the use of wine (Luke 21:34; Rom. 13:13; Eph. 5:18; 1 Tim. 3:8; Titus 1:7
     
  3. Gerry

    Gerry Jesus Paid It All

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    This is GREAT information Alta! Thanks for posting this!
     
  4. Gerry

    Gerry Jesus Paid It All

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    This is am awesome post with deep spiritual significance about communion.
     
  5. Serving4Christ

    Serving4Christ Humble Servant

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    Every thread like this I read only makes me become more spiritually prepared to take communion. It's not just a cup of wine or bread.

    I serve communion in my church, and no one really goes in depth like this as to why we take communion and its true significance. They usually read Matthew 26:27-29, In remembrance of me, etc...talk a little about it, then take the bread and wine.

    Next time I go to communion, I'll have a much greater understanding as to why I commune, and the true meaning of communion.

    Keep these threads coming!
     
  6. Gerry

    Gerry Jesus Paid It All

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    Glory to God! This is an awesome revelation we all need to grab hold of. It is the Spiritual communion with our God and Saviour that makes the communion celebration moving, meaningful, and relevant. Thanks for pointing this out!
     
  7. GraftMeIn

    GraftMeIn The Masters Gardener

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    Thanks for posting all that info on wine Altya. It makes me consider the properties of wine more, and what It means to be Drunk in the Spirit. Especially in light of the following scripture.

    1 Corinthians 11:20-22
    When therefore ye assemble yourselves together, it is not possible to eat the Lord's supper: for in your eating each one taketh before other his own supper; and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What, have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and put them to shame that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you? In this I praise you not.

    I'm sure at one time or another we have all experienced what it's like to be drunk in the Spirit, or at least have seen the effect of it on others at church.

    When someone is drunk in the Spirit they get all silly, giggly and have a hard time controlling their laughter. Much like someone who has had a glass or two of real wine and isn't used to drinking it. The problem with being drunk in the Spirit at church is that it only serves as a distraction to those around us who are trying to learn. This can be disruptive of the entire service. Just one more reason we should be experiencing the workings of the Holy Spirit at home, and not just when we attend services at church.
     
  8. altya

    altya Servant of God

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    I love to be drunk in the Spirit - it's an awesome experience.
     
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