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Dream About The Russia-Ukraine War

Discussion in 'Sign Gifts' started by Hidden In Him, Jun 11, 2022.

  1. Hidden In Him

    Hidden In Him Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yeah, I'm not sure what I would make of those either. Never heard either of those before.
    I'm simply saying that before men can have ears to hear, many must come to the place where they feel the need for God in their lives. When things are fine they have no need. But being in the midst of a war where one's life is being threatened, or not knowing where your next meal will come from, these are the types of situations that can cause men to call out to God in their need.
     
  2. ValeriyK2022

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    I thought so too during the coronavirus epidemic. Many people died. It has been shown on TV and in the news on the Internet. I thought that people would go to temples en masse. But no. Because of the fear of getting infected, they began to walk even less.

    The same is observed during the war. There is no visible remorse. There are even fewer people in churches than before the war.

    In the USSR, people were brought up in such a way that the priest was associated with the funeral. In the 90s there was more freedom, the wedding became fashionable. Many people turn to a priest 3 times in their lives: at baptism, at a wedding and at a funeral. The gospel is studied very little. Very few know their faith. Is it possible to call a Christian a person who does not know his faith? Even if he makes donations.

    Many temples were built with donations over the course of 30 years. This is good. It seemed that the revival of Christianity began. But no. Very few baptized people have come to know the Christian faith. Even fewer know how to live with it. Now baptized people from Russia are shelling churches in Ukraine with rockets and shells. They destroy churches. God allows it. It is not pleasing to God that the temples are adorned, and the commandments are not fulfilled.
     
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  3. Hidden In Him

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    I think what you are dealing with is a resistance to the Christian faith that is very engrained in Ukrainian society, but that is precisely why I think it may take something drastic like the country's destruction to awaken them from their spiritual apathy. It has been much the same way in nations like Haiti, where a form of Catholicism combined with Voodoo has kept them blind to the truth, and it has taken several decades now of severe hardships to soften their hearts to the truth. It is happening, but it is happening slowly.

    As one article put it, "Through the disastrous hurricane seasons of 2004, 2008 and the earthquake of January 2010 the message of the gospel of Jesus Christ has been dramatically spread. It remains to see what the long term impact of these events is for the Gospel."

    Trouble is, they apparently still need to go through more hardships, because the country has more recently been hardening its heart to Christianity once again, and attacking Christian pastors and families as the following article talks about:

    Yet Again, Haitian Christians Are Confronting Turmoil
    How the church persists in the midst of political unrest, violence, and poverty.
    MORGAN LEE | JULY 9, 2021

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    On Wednesday, Haiti’s president Jovenel Moïse was assassinated. His death came after protesters had demanded his departure for months. Moïse had governed the country of 11 million by decree, even as constitutional scholars and legal experts argued that his term in office had already expired.

    While the country has long struggled with poverty and unrest, the situation had been exacerbated in recent months as violent gangs had kidnapped children and pastors. Haiti first became a nation after its enslaved population overthrew their French enslavers. But Western nations, scared lest they send the wrong message to the enslaved, launched a trade boycott against the country, greatly impoverishing it for decades. During the 20th century, the US occupied the island from 1915 to 1934. After it left, the country endured several dictatorships and western powers-supported government overthrows.

    The country has also not been rebuilt after an earthquake devastated it in 2011.
     
  4. ValeriyK2022

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    On this issue, I do not agree with you at all. The Russians are now killing our people. This is victim blaming.
    Do you think Ukrainians are more sinful than people in other post-Christian countries? Not at all. Here are the words of Jesus Christ:
    «At that very time there were some present who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2 He asked them, “Do you think that because these Galileans suffered in this way they were worse sinners than all other Galileans? 3 No, I tell you, but unless you repent you will all perish as they did. 4 Or those eighteen who were killed when the tower of Siloam fell on them—do you think that they were worse offenders than all the other people living in Jerusalem? 5 No, I tell you, but unless you repent you will all perish just as they did.”». (Luke 13:1-9)

    Ukraine is not Haiti. Ukraine for Russia is like Great Britain for the USA. Russia is a child, which many times stronger for the mother.

    Kyiv gave birth to Moscow and Kyiv is bleeding from the blows of Moscow.

    Russia is 16 times larger than Ukraine. For 4 months, hundreds of thousands of people were killed and injured, millions lost their homes and jobs.
     
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  5. Hidden In Him

    Hidden In Him Well-Known Member Supporter

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    No, no. That's not my point at all. It's actually quite the opposite, but since we seem to be in disagreement I think I will let it go.

    God bless, and I wish you the very best.
    - H
     
  6. Pioneer3mm

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    Greetings,
    I have a question (not from your post #45)..
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    How much impact (the war) on 'Protestants' in Ukraine?
    - It is known...many people (65%?) are Eastern Orthodox.
    - Protestants..less than 3%?
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    Any different.. impact on Protestants?
    - Before the war & during the war?
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    *Maybe you already addressed the issue..on this thread.
    - I did not have time to read all posts..
     
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  7. ValeriyK2022

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    Hallo, have a Good day. I have not familiar Protestants now. But I think that the war affects they, as all other people in Ukraine as well: some have become refugees, some have been mobilized into the army, some have lost their homes or jobs. Many people have broken the usual ties with their groups. People found themselves among new people with whom they had not known before. Regardless of faith and views. United by war.
     
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  8. ValeriyK2022

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    And I wish you all the best too
     
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