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Donald J. Trump campaign releases plan for Veteran Administration reform

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by NightHawkeye, Nov 1, 2015.

  1. Fantine

    Fantine Dona Quixote Supporter

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    The VA has been studied and found to be one of the most efficient health care delivery systems in the country. They have thought of many innovations long before other insurance plans did.

    For example--barcoding medicines and matching them to hospital ID bracelets, thereby insuring patients didn't get the wrong medicine.

    And now if veterans can't be seen in a reasonable time span they have a card which allows them to go to another local doctor (I think they have to call first, but I'm not sure).

    My husband has used the VA for about 10 years. He has Medicare now, but he prefers the VA doctors. His cataract surgery and prostate cancer treatment were outsourced through Humana to eliminate long wait times. His angioplasties were performed at a VA hospital by a cardiovascular surgeon that had received awards for being the best doctor in the local hospital.

    The problem I see with the VA involves Iraq and Afghanistan veterans--but it's the fault of the military, not the VA.

    Here it is: An active duty soldier gets PTSD while in the war zone. His commanding officers recognize that (s)he is suffering from PTSD. They COULD get him/her the help she needs....or they could do nothing! With a little bit of luck, the soldier will act out while under PTSD. They can then give the soldier a general or dishonorable discharge, thereby depriving him/her of any future educational, medical, or pension benefits through the VA.

    Shame on the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines! The information I have is anecdotal, of course, but I have heard it from a number of families. I'm a good listener.

    My husband was in Vietnam, and by the time they recognized many Agent Orange disabilities he had been out of the Army for 32 years--and afflicted with for 5.

    He never had PTSD--well, maybe for a few months, but he got over it quickly. And fortunately he had an honorable discharge.

    The stories my hairdresser and others tell about their brave sons are heartbreaking. If Trump really wants a crusade, he should look for justice for these young veterans.

    If you are the parent of a soldier and fear (s)he has PTSD, save every letter and email in which they talk about their symptoms. Ask them to write about and document any signs of PTSD they see in themselves.

    My hairdresser knew her son had PTSD in between his two deployments, but off he went to his second tour in a war zone, where his PTSD caused him to act out and get a less-than-honorable discharge. Unfortunately, they didn't have documentation.

    If you or your children are between deployments, and you are having adjustment problems, see a psychologist. Get your symptoms documented.

    I am embarrassed for America that we are treating our soldiers this way.
     
  2. Willtor

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    They aren't competing for the business of veterans. They're competing for the business of the government. Both systems are single payer.
     
  3. essentialsaltes

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    Trump administration breaks campaign promise, purges 200,000 VA healthcare applications

    "In purging this massive backlog of applications, the VA is declaring the applications to be incomplete due to errors by the applicants, despite the OIG findings and in violation of the promise Trump made to fix the system. This purge has the dual effect of letting the VA avoid the work of processing the applications and absolving the agency of any responsibility for veterans’ delayed access to health and disability benefits."
     
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  4. LoAmmi

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    Then you should have zero problem with Medicare for All, which allows people to choose from among multiple independent medical providers. Glad you are with us! Want a hat?
     
  5. iluvatar5150

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    Maybe Trump doesn't like losers who come home from war not 100% healthy.
     
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  6. cow451

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    Why not? The Armed Forces use socialism as an organizational plan.
     
  7. cow451

    cow451 Individual-2 Supporter

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    Whose premiums are paid by ....?
     
  8. cow451

    cow451 Individual-2 Supporter

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    Universal healthcare. Great idea.
     
  9. Aryeh Jay

    Aryeh Jay Veteran Supporter CF Senior Ambassador

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    You can’t make America Great Again by paying for other people’s health care.
     
  10. Silverback

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    Not all veterans can use the VA, it's a complex system, that depends on service connected disabilities compensated at various levels mixed with means testing.

    I worked for the VA, and the problems are with the senior management, who are not held accountable.

    Competition between federal agencies in delivering healthcare probably will not have a real effect. Sending one of two to Otisville will Michael Cohen wil.
     
  11. Fantine

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    Great nations are healthy nations. Educated nations. No wonder why we are so far behind other nations in quality of life issues.
     
  12. Nithavela

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    Always a sign that things are going well when something the government does is called a purge.
     
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  14. Silverback

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    I feel for those veterans, however, most Commanding Officers are not qualified to diagnose PTSD. Additionally, most people in the military will not seek treatment for this, because they know it could end there time in the service, make them non deployable, and they don't want to let the other people in their unit down. If you have never been in a war zone, or, been a Police Officer, or, a Fireman it's difficult for most people to understand.

    Many people in the military keep serving in spite of physical, and mental health issues, many of which are severe.

    We fought, and still fight for each other, the mission is always there, but it's the person next to you that's important.

    Some folks could not live with themselves if they thought they let someone down, so, they suffer in silence, and take one for the team.

    There is no conspiracy to take soldiers with known mental health issues back to a war zone, hoping they mess-up, so they can give them a bad discharge, thereby denying them veterans benifits.

    If they did that, it puts everyone in danger, and if nothing else puts the mission in danger. But sometimes decisions have to be made with imperfect information. You can send someone to a mental health professional, but if the patient is not willing to spill is guts, then...what do you do? The unit has to deploy, it has to fight, it has to win.

    Lastly, I worked for the VS for nine years after I retired from the military, the problem is a corrupt culture within the senior leadership, until that is addressed nothing will change.
     
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  15. cow451

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    Support the troops!
     
  16. DaisyDay

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    Sure, but let their survivors support themselves...After you cut taxes on corporations and the rich, you have to make it up somewhere.
     
  17. cow451

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    Losers pay, right?
     
  18. Nithavela

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    I think thats on the trump family crest, right beneath the burger.
     
  19. DaisyDay

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    God bless the child that has got his own.

     
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