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Dominion vote switching physically impossible

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Tanj, Nov 23, 2020.

  1. Erik Nelson

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  3. Sparagmos

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    But not in Philly, where Trump’s lawyers are claiming fraud.
     
  4. TLK Valentine

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    Which has what to do with Philly?
     
  5. MIDutch

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    Well, there's your problem. Facts/evidence/math/science/etc. are anathema to some people.

    Creationist Playbook, Page 5: No matter how much evidence/science/facts/math are thrown at you, pretend it doesn't exist or merely claim that it is all fake.
     
  6. chad kincham

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    The printout received has the name of the candidate the voter selects, but the voting machine puts a bar code on it that we can’t read.

    The switch to another candidate can’t be caught by the voter, because the actual part of the receipt that the computer reads when it’s scanned, is a code that the voter can’t read.

    If there’s a recount, the scanner reads the code, not the printed name of the candidate, thus a recount continues the scam by reading the name that is encoded, not the name printed on it.

    The user guide for Dominion is online, which I’m going to post.

    In Chapter 11 in the guide, theres a feature a feature called RCV, ranked choice voting, and the user guide shows how to set it to take votes from one candidate, and transfer them to the chosen winner.

    It also has a tie breaker feature, that allows the user to break a tie manually, and select who wins.

    https://www.oann.com/files/UG-RTR-UserGuide-5-11-CO.pdf#page77
     
  7. chad kincham

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    There’s three voting machines used, all three have the identical software that dominion uses. One of the other two is called Smartmatic.
     
  8. Tanj

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    right.

    And then when they do a full hand recount in Georgia (using the name bit) which uses Dominion 100% and it tallies with the machine count you know there's no vote switching.

    Not relevant in the Georgia hand recount

    Don't care. The evidence from the Georgia hand recount CONCLUSIVELY shows that none of this right wing fantasy nonsense happened.

    Also, anything in that PDF that tells you how to make the barcode different from the human readable bit but only for the presidential race, which is what you are claiming?

    Yeah, didn't think so.

    And I'll mention again the number of Dominion voting machines in Philadelphia is 0
     
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  9. Tanj

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    Hey Chad, if you are going to insert yourself into a conversation, do try to read all of it. Here's the article I was responding to.

     
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    That’s already been exposed as to how that part of the voter fraud works.

    Dominion changes the candidate selected by the voter in the bar code on the receipt, but prints the correct name on the paper - thus if there’s a recount, the bar code is scanned, and it reads the name encoded on the paper, not the name printed on the receipt.

    The dominion user guide is online, which I shall post.

    Chapter 11 shows how it is designed to rig elections.

    It’s called RCV, ranked choice voting. Read it.

    https://www.oann.com/files/UG-RTR-UserGuide-5-11-CO.pdf#page77
     
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  11. chad kincham

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    They didn’t use just one method of cheating.

    They also had a large number of fake mail in ballots that witnesses saw dumped at 3:30 AM.

    Signature matching was disabled, so the mail in ballots weren’t verified as they’re supposed to be.

    PA officials refused to enable signature matching for the recounts - thus they just recounted the real and the fake ballots a second time.

    My correct point in the first comment was responding to Dominions claim that no votes can be switched by Dominion.

    This is an easily disproved lie, because chapter 11 in the Dominion user guide show how it can steal votes using a weighted algorithm called Ranked Choice Voting.

    https://www.oann.com/files/UG-RTR-UserGuide-5-11-CO.pdf#page77
     
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  12. Tanj

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    Mate seriously. I live in Australia. We use RCV as our voting system. It's not a rig, it's an alternative to the FPTP that you guys use.
     
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  13. Tanj

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    the Dominion voting switching is, as I have said twice now and you have evaded both times, is CONCLUSIVELY shown by the Georgia hand recount to not be any kind of cheating at all, not even a little bit. 0, nada, zip, zilch, nil.

    Rubbish. They dropped mail ballots counts in batches rather than continuously.

    That is completely false.

    Because the USA, like all other Western Democracies, uses private ballots where no-one knows how you voted. Signatures have to be removed prior to counting for that to happen. How is it possible you are this ignorant of the process? My 5 year old nephew understands the concept of private ballots.

    And utterly destroyed by the Georgia recount which CONCLUSIVELY showed it didn't happen even a little bit.

    This is indeed a lie.. As I said, RCV is the counting system we use in Australia. It's not a steal, it's a methodology that some places use..including numerous locations in the USA

    Ranked-choice voting in the United States - Wikipedia

    Of course a voting system has the capability to use different methodologies.
     
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  14. chad kincham

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    The dominion voting machine has an option called Ranked Choice Voting, which the User Guide shows is used to rig elections with a weighted algorithm.

    Dominion has been used worldwide. It’s been used to steal elections for years.

    Here’s an excerpt from the user guide that blatantly shows it rigs votes:

    RCV Method: This will select the specific method of tabulating RCV votes to elect a winner, the following methods are supported:
    • IRV: Instant Runoff-Voting.
    • STV: Single Transferable Voting, more specifically the Weighted Inclusive Gregory Method, which implements fractional surplus transfer of elected candidates.
    • Points IRV: a modified form of Instant Run-off Voting where ranked choice voting results are evaluated on a district per district basis and each district has a set number of points (100). Elimination and declaration of winners is done on basis of points, not votes.
     
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  15. Tanj

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    How many times do I have to repeat that it is not a rig, it's an alternate method of voting which is used in the USA and Australia?


    For the 4th time, that's not cheating, it's alternative methods of voting. the Weighted Inclusive Gregory Method is used in Australia.
     
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    Mail in ballots legally must be verified by signature matching.

    The signature on the envelope must match the signature on file, to verify who sent in that ballot.

    They deliberately disabled the signature matching in both the first count and the recount, thus all they did was recount the fraudulent ballots again.

    There’s no possible reason to disable signature matching, other than deliberate fraud.

    Hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots were dumped and were witnessed being dumped, on November 4th at 3:30 AM.

    Your 5 year old, and you, need to learn how Mail in ballots work.
     
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  17. Tanj

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    They were.

    That happened.

    That first part is entirely untrue, the second part, as I guess my 5 year old nephew could explain to you, is because the USA uses a private ballot system, in which signatures are removed before the ballot is counted.

    Or because you are using a private ballot system as you have done for the last 200 years. So yeah, either fraud or complete ignorance of how democracy works. One of the two

    No, they weren't.

    I have forgotten more about how elections work than you, based on the last few posts, are capable of learning.
     
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  18. chad kincham

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    You can say that all day long, but it’s a method of voter fraud, that uses points, not votes.

    The keyword is WEIGHTED - a fractional value can be assigned to a candidate such as 1.25 to A and .75 to B, thus candidate A gets one and a quarter of the number of votes that are cast, and B only gets 3/4 of them.
     
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    Before the ballot is removed, the signature on the envelope must match the signature on file.

    That’s how it’s supposed to work, WHICH IS WHY ITS CALLED SIGNATURE MATCHING.
     
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  20. Tanj

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    I can say that we use this system in Australia all day long and you are going to ignore me and keep uttering this falsehood about fraud?

    Well, good to know, I guess.

    Right, that is indeed the basis of one method of performing proportional voting. Like we also do in Australia.
     
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