DOJ to announce special counsel for Trump-related Mar-a-Lago and January 6 investigations

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How many convictions of Trump? You know, the epicenter of all bad things (if you listen to certain propaganda)?
Refer to post #41. Again.
You were referring to random connected individuals. I am referring to the whole "Trump is a russian asset" disinformation.
Random individuals he defrauded? If Donald did not want to be investigated for being a "Russian asset" perhaps he should not have lied about his Russian connections and his campaign's (Mike Flynn, Don Jr. & Jared) secret meetings with Russian operatives.
 
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Trump is in prison now? Source?
Huh? The Russian investigation was never about Donald Trump. The success of the investigation has nothing to do whether D Trump got convicted or not. They were never going to indict a sitting president. Instead they were investigating Russians and non D Trump members of the Trump presidential campaign. For which they charged and convicted many people and discovered and disclosed and assessed the criminality of many interactions between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians in the lead up to the election.
 
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Huh? The Russian investigation was never about Donald Trump. The success of the investigation has nothing to do whether D Trump got convicted or not. They were never going to indict a sitting president. Instead they were investigating Russians and non D Trump members of the Trump presidential campaign. For which they charged and convicted many people and discovered and disclosed and assessed the criminality of many interactions between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians in the lead up to the election.

Then why were all the libs so excited about the investigation and so excited to find out the outcome? Just cause they were hoping a couple of dudes would be charged with lying?

You guys crack me up.

You might want to go back and revisit all the threads and news media stuff on this.

Lol, and Mueller admitted there wasn't anything to charge him with anyway.
 
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No, that's not what Mueller stated.

Yes it is. He said he did not conclude the president committed any crime. And how many years later? We still haven't concluded he committed any crime. Much to the chagrine of all you leftists who were desperately hoping Mueller would report that the president did. Now we've moved on to Jan 6 in which you are still hoping it will be found he committed some sort of crime.

And it still hasn't happened.

I'm so over you guys all claiming something. You are even all disagreeing with yourselves. The investigation want about Trump. Trump was shown to commit crimes. Which is it?
 
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Then why were all the libs so excited about the investigation and so excited to find out the outcome? Just cause they were hoping a couple of dudes would be charged with lying?

You guys crack me up.

You might want to go back and revisit all the threads and news media stuff on this.

Lol, and Mueller admitted there wasn't anything to charge him with anyway.
There was a lot of speculation going on in the media about D Trump's culpability and potentially criminal charges.
However, the media aren't the people that were carrying out the investigation. The FBI, then the special council under the Republican Acting Attorney General were in charge of the investigation.
Both of them were very quiet to the media.
It wasn't until much later on that the media learned that the DoJ and Special Council would not indict a sitting president.
 
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There was a lot of speculation going on in the media about D Trump's culpability and potentially criminal charges.
However, the media aren't the people that were carrying out the investigation. The FBI, then the special council under the Republican Acting Attorney General were in charge of the investigation.
Both of them were very quiet to the media.
It wasn't until much later on that the media learned that the DoJ and Special Council would not indict a sitting president.

They didn't even find probable cause to indict him on anything anyway. So the point was moot. And even after he wasn't indicted on anything. Even with a Democratic President and AG.

Anyway, done with this conversation. No reason to rehash something that was already hashed to pieces and still no.prosecution filed.
 
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They didn't even find probable cause to indict him on anything anyway. So the point was moot. And even after he wasn't indicted on anything. Even with a Democratic President and AG.

Anyway, done with this conversation. No reason to rehash something that was already hashed to pieces and still no.prosecution filed.
Sorry to keep going back to facts, but I feel many on the right have gotten quite confused about some of the facts. I'm happy to argue about differences of opinions, but really we do need to ground our understanding in the facts.

This right wing talking point of "nothing being found to indict president Trump on" is not factually accurate. The Mueller report explicitly stated that it does not exonerate D Trump with regards to Obstruction of Justice and that they did not make a determination due to DOJ guidelines on sitting presidents.

"D Trump not being indicted even under a Democratic President and AG", makes no sense at all as a right wing complaint, because Biden has shown his independence from the AG. He has not interfered or tried to rig the game. He has not (as far as I know) tried to interfere in the Hunter Biden laptop investigation (he certainly has not taken it upon himself to cry before the media about the investigation, or about it being a witchhunt or unfair), nor has he put pressure on the AG to investigate D Trump for the insurrection, nor tried to get the DoJ to revisit the obstruction now that D Trump is no longer the sitting president. Joe Biden has not even tried to interfere or complain about the Duram investigation, which has gone on for three years and failed twice in court. You don't hear much about it, because Biden isn't whinging and whining like a spoilt rich kid. He's not running around trying to fire people in order to shut it down. He's not putting pressure on anyone in the Justice system.
There is a massive difference between Biden and Trump with regards to acting with dignity and ethics and respecting people doing their job even if they are investigating the president and/or his family.
 
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Huh? The Russian investigation was never about Donald Trump. The success of the investigation has nothing to do whether D Trump got convicted or not. They were never going to indict a sitting president. Instead they were investigating Russians and non D Trump members of the Trump presidential campaign. For which they charged and convicted many people and discovered and disclosed and assessed the criminality of many interactions between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians in the lead up to the election.

The assertion upthread was that "Trump was a Russian asset". This is not true.
 
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Well no, it's not. My reference is not McCabe. McCabe uses that word in intel speak with a distinct definition. I speak of it in terms of Trump being an asset to Putin, or a liability given Trump's actions himself regarding Russia. That including his desire to withdrawal from NATO, and had to be stopped. His defense of Putin given his meddling in our elections. His actions in not implementing sanctions on Russia. Putin's leverage knowing Trump was lying about not having business interests in Russia. Clearly he to Putin was an asset so much he tried his best to get Trump elected....twice.
 
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