Does the Bible teach us there is a Hell?

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There is a Temporal Hell and a Permanent one, as documented in the following:

The Bible teaches us, the real existence of hell is irrefutably taught in Scripture as both a place of the wicked dead and a condition of retribution for unredeemed man. It is plain that 'to die in sin' is a dreadful thing. [e.g. Ez.3:18; NIV footnote].

The nature of hell is indicated by the repeated reference to eternal punishment [Mt.25:46], eternal fire [Mt.18:8, Jude 7], everlasting chains [Jude 6], the pit of the Abyss [Rev.9:2, 11], outer darkness [Mt.8:12], the wrath of God [Rom.2:5, second death [Rev.21:8], eternal destruction from the face of God [2 Thes.1:9], and eternal sin [Mk.3:29]. While some of these terms are symbolic and descriptive, they connote real entities, about whose existence there can be no doubt."

To start from the beginning, both the English term Hell, as well as the Greek term Hades come from the transliteration of the OT Hebrew term, Sheol - which has several meanings. Therein was the problem.

First of all, the direction for Sheol is always downward, into the earth below. The first meaning for Sheol, is simply reference to the grave for the dead body. All in all, Sheol was temporary, but thought to be final, in connection with the wicked, but not the righteous, which will be covered a little later on.

Secondly, both the wicked as well as the righteous spirit/souls went to Sheol when the body died. [See Jesus narrative in Lk.16:19-31 about Lazarus and the rich man, which is a perfect profile of Sheol]. The righteous went there because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Therefore, the righteous ones in Sheol, had to await Jesus death and resurrection before the sins of the righteous ones there, could be forgiven them. As in Ps.49:14-15.

Thirdly, Sheol was the place where the wicked went, separated from God and awaiting judgement. As in Ps.6:5; 30:3, 9; 88:3-6; Job 17:13-16 and Isa.38:18.

The next important element in the development of Hell, comes from the Hebrew term, 'Topheth,' which means, 'Place of fire,' that was located in the Valley of [ben] Hinnom,' or the Valley of the son of Hinnom,' or just plain, 'the Valley of Hinnom.'

It received its name from the wicked kings of Judah, Ahaz and Manasseh, who sacrificed their own children to the god, Molech, through the fire at that location, which formed part of the border between Judah and Benjamin. [2 Kgs.16:3 and 2 Chr.28:3 re Ahaz, and 2 Kgs.21:6 and 2 Chr.33:6 re Manasseh].

The Greeks used the term, Gehenna [Also geenna], to describe the Valley of the son of Hinnom, meaning, the 'place of fire,' or, 'The Lake of Fire," the place of permanent punisment for the wicked. Jesus used this very term in the following passages of Scripture that were rendered 'Hell' in the KJV. [Mt.5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33; Mk.9:43, 45, 47; Lk.12:5. James also used it in Jas.3:6].

The Greek term Hades is used to describe the 'state of the dead,' and was considered temporal, in contrast to the permanent punishment of the wicked. Hades was the Greek god of the lower regions. The KJV rendered it 'Hell' ten times.

Therefore, there are two parts to Hell: those in [temporal] Sheol, Hades and Hell, awaiting the second resurrection and great white throne judgement, and those whose names are not found written in the book of life, will be thrown into the Lake of Fire - along with death, and [temporal] Hades [Sheol and Hell]. Rev.20:11-15.
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There is a Temporal Hell and a Permanent one, as documented in the following:

The Bible teaches us, the real existence of hell is irrefutably taught in Scripture as both a place of the wicked dead and a condition of retribution for unredeemed man. It is plain that 'to die in sin' is a dreadful thing. [e.g. Ez.3:18; NIV footnote].

The nature of hell is indicated by the repeated reference to eternal punishment [Mt.25:46], eternal fire [Mt.18:8, Jude 7], everlasting chains [Jude 6], the pit of the Abyss [Rev.9:2, 11], outer darkness [Mt.8:12], the wrath of God [Rom.2:5, second death [Rev.21:8], eternal destruction from the face of God [2 Thes.1:9], and eternal sin [Mk.3:29]. While some of these terms are symbolic and descriptive, they connote real entities, about whose existence there can be no doubt."

To start from the beginning, both the English term Hell, as well as the Greek term Hades come from the transliteration of the OT Hebrew term, Sheol - which has several meanings. Therein was the problem.

First of all, the direction for Sheol is always downward, into the earth below. The first meaning for Sheol, is simply reference to the grave for the dead body. All in all, Sheol was temporary, but thought to be final, in connection with the wicked, but not the righteous, which will be covered a little later on.

Secondly, both the wicked as well as the righteous spirit/souls went to Sheol when the body died. [See Jesus narrative in Lk.16:19-31 about Lazarus and the rich man, which is a perfect profile of Sheol]. The righteous went there because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Therefore, the righteous ones in Sheol, had to await Jesus death and resurrection before the sins of the righteous ones there, could be forgiven them. As in Ps.49:14-15.

Thirdly, Sheol was the place where the wicked went, separated from God and awaiting judgement. As in Ps.6:5; 30:3, 9; 88:3-6; Job 17:13-16 and Isa.38:18.

The next important element in the development of Hell, comes from the Hebrew term, 'Topheth,' which means, 'Place of fire,' that was located in the Valley of [ben] Hinnom,' or the Valley of the son of Hinnom,' or just plain, 'the Valley of Hinnom.'

It received its name from the wicked kings of Judah, Ahaz and Manasseh, who sacrificed their own children to the god, Molech, through the fire at that location, which formed part of the border between Judah and Benjamin. [2 Kgs.16:3 and 2 Chr.28:3 re Ahaz, and 2 Kgs.21:6 and 2 Chr.33:6 re Manasseh].

The Greeks used the term, Gehenna [Also geenna], to describe the Valley of the son of Hinnom, meaning, the 'place of fire,' or, 'The Lake of Fire," the place of permanent punisment for the wicked. Jesus used this very term in the following passages of Scripture that were rendered 'Hell' in the KJV. [Mt.5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33; Mk.9:43, 45, 47; Lk.12:5. James also used it in Jas.3:6].

The Greek term Hades is used to describe the 'state of the dead,' and was considered temporal, in contrast to the permanent punishment of the wicked. Hades was the Greek god of the lower regions. The KJV rendered it 'Hell' ten times.

Therefore, there are two parts to Hell: those in [temporal] Sheol, Hades and Hell, awaiting the second resurrection and great white throne judgement, and those whose names are not found written in the book of life, will be thrown into the Lake of Fire - along with death, and [temporal] Hades [Sheol and Hell]. Rev.20:11-15.
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Jacob thought his son had been devoured by a wild
beast, ye he stated that he would go to his son/Joseph.

David's young son died and he stated that he could not return to him, but that he would go to him.
Correct. Salvation is by way of Covenant. Joseph died (supposedly) in good standing with the Abrahamic covenant, and King David's infant of adultery was in the Mosaic covenant when he died.
 
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Are you wanting to discuss various Traditional perspectives on your post here? Or are you just sharing your thoughts?


Did I get the thread in the wrong slot? If so, please accept my apology. I suspect if that is the case, the mods will move it if they so desire to do so, don't you think?

The thread was placed here to share what the Scripture teach us about Hell.


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Did I get the thread in the wrong slot? If so, please accept my apology. I suspect if that is the case, the mods will move it if they so desire to do so, don't you think?

The thread was placed here to share what the Scripture teach us about Hell.


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It seemed more like an explanation rather than a question, so I wasn't sure what you wanted to get out of the thread. If you are interested in us sharing with eachother our perspectives on Hell from a Traditional perspective, then this is a good place for it - It just depends on what you want the thread to be :)

Btw, welcome to Traditional Theology!
 
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It seemed more like an explanation rather than a question, so I wasn't sure what you wanted to get out of the thread. If you are interested in us sharing with eachother our perspectives on Hell from a Traditional perspective, then this is a good place for it - It just depends on what you want the thread to be :)

Btw, welcome to Traditional Theology!


The OP apparently is in the wrong forum. My apology, and I suppose the mods will move it if they so desire to do so.

Thanks for your kind welcome.

The OP is not a question, but rather a sharing of Scriptural facts for all who have questions about hell.


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Acts 1:25

“That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.”

Where do you think he went?


From the Scriptures, there is little doubt he was a condemned man and went to hell. At the Great White Throne judgment in Rev.20:11-15, he went from hell to the lake of fire, permanent death.


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“Our father died in the wilderness, and he was not in the company of them that gathered themselves together against the LORD in the company of Korah; but died in his own sin, and had no sons.”
Numbers 27:3

What did the OT say when a person died that was just?


No one went to heaven during OT times. Because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins, according to Heb.10:4. Review Lk.16:19-31 for Jesus perfect profile of Sheol/Hell, that tells the story well.

When Jesus died on the cross, He went directly to Sheol/Hell, after first returning to our Father in heaven, according to Lk.23:46 and 1 Pet.3:18-20. Where He preached the Gospel to them there. For those OT saints who received/believed in Him, He took with Hin to heaven, when He ascended, according to Acts 1:9, Eph.4:7-10, confirming Ps.68:18.
eph.4:7


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What do you think of Psalms 49:19 as to go to the generation of thy fathers? Strong's shows the word for "generation" can mean - dwelling

go - enter - come

It is poetry - Gods people talking to God...
 
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No one went to heaven during OT times. Because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins, according to Heb.10:4. Review Lk.16:19-31 for Jesus perfect profile of Sheol/Hell, that tells the story well.

When Jesus died on the cross, He went directly to Sheol/Hell, after first returning to our Father in heaven, according to Lk.23:46 and 1 Pet.3:18-20. Where He preached the Gospel to them there. For those OT saints who received/believed in Him, He took with Hin to heaven, when He ascended, according to Acts 1:9, Eph.4:7-10, confirming Ps.68:18.
eph.4:7


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Sheol is not another word for hell. Sheol is a poetic word used in the Old Testament to where people went when they died. Please give Hebrew Scriptures the respect they deserve.
 
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Are you wanting to discuss various Traditional perspectives on your post here? Or are you just sharing your thoughts?


The purpose of my OP was to share the Scriptural facts about Hell. It is my hope my efforts are not in vain.


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The purpose of my OP was to share the Scriptural facts about Hell. It is my hope my efforts are not in vain.


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It's a good topic :) It's just good to have it placed in the right forum.

Blessings to you!
 
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