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Does the Bible teach there is a Hell?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Quasar92, Sep 22, 2017.

  1. Quasar92

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    The real existence of hell is irrefutably taught in Scripture as both a place of the wicked dead and a condition of retribution for unredeemed man. It is plain that 'to die in sin' is a dreadful thing. [e.g. Ez.3:18; NIV footnote].

    The nature of hell is indicated by the repeated reference to eternal punishment [Mt.25:46], eternal fire [Mt.18:8, Jude 7], everlasting chains [Jude 6], the pit of the Abyss [Rev.9:2, 11], outer darkness [Mt.8:12], the wrath of God [Rom.2:5, second death [Rev.21:8], eternal destruction from the face of God [2 Thes.1:9], and eternal sin [Mk.3:29]. While some of these terms are symbolic and descriptive, they connote real entities, about whose existence there can be no doubt."

    To start from the beginning, both the English term Hell, as well as the Greek term Hades come from the transliteration of the OT Hebrew term, Sheol - which has several meanings. Therein comes the problem.

    First of all, the direction for Sheol is always downward, into the earth below. The first meaning for Sheol, is simply reference to the grave for the dead body. All in all, Sheol was believed to be temporary, in connection with the wicked, but not the righteous, which will be covered a little later on.

    Secondly, both the wicked as well as the righteous spirit/souls went to Sheol when the body died, in the OT [See Jesus narrative in Lk.16:19-31 about Lazarus and the rich man, which is a perfect profile of Sheol]. The righteous went there because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins, according to Heb.10:4. Therefore, the righteous ones in Sheol, had to await Jesus death and resurrection before their sins were forgiven them, as Paul explains in Rom.3:25-26, as well as in Ps.49:14-15.

    Thirdly, documentation Sheol was the place where the wicked went, separated from God and awaiting judgement, in Ps.6:5; 30:3, 9; 88:3-6; Job 17:13-16 and Isa.38:18.

    The next important element in the development of Hell, comes from the Hebrew term, 'Topheth,' which means, 'Place of fire,' that was located in the Valley of [ben] Hinnom,' or the Valley of the son of Hinnom,' or just plain, 'the Valley of Hinnom' [It is now nothing but a rubbish dump, with the fire going continually as a reminder of its origins, as follows:

    It received its name from the wicked kings of Judah, Ahaz and Manasseh, who sacrificed their own children to the god, Molech, through the fire at that location, which formed part of the border between Judah and Benjamin. [2 Kgs.16:3 and 2 Chr.28:3 re Ahaz, and 2 Kgs.21:6 and 2 Chr.33:6 re Manasseh].

    The Greeks used the term, Gehenna [Also geenna], to describe the Valley of the son of Hinnom, meaning, the 'place of fire,' or, in English, 'The Lake of Fire," the place of permanent punisment for the wicked. Jesus used this very term in the following passages of Scripture that were rendered 'Hell' in the KJV. [Mt.5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33; Mk.9:43, 45, 47; Lk.12:5. James also used it in Jas.3:6]. In each case, Jesus clearly meant, permanent punishment.

    The Greek term Hades is used to describe the 'state of the dead,' and was considered temporal, in contrast to the permanent punishment of the wicked, described by their term, "Gehenna." Hades was the Greek god of the lower regions. The KJV rendered it 'Hell' ten times.

    Therefore, there are two parts to Hell: those in [temporal] Sheol, Hades and Hell, awaiting the second resurrection and great white throne judgement, and those whose names are not found written in the book of life, will be thrown into the Lake of Fire - along with death, and [temporal] Hades [Sheol and Hell]. Rev.20:11-15.

    See also: Hell | Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry

    Blessings,

    Quasar92
     
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  2. Tolworth John

    Tolworth John Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Many people debate the meaning of the words used to discribe hell and often come to the conclusion that there is no hell.

    What these learned people seem to miss is that Jesus came not just to show us that God loves us but to save us from the very real consquences of the wrath of a Holy God against those who hate him(sinners)

    What is hell but an eternal separation from God and from every good thing that God bountifully supplies us.

    What is a suitible punishment for those who reject Gods offer of mercy? God is infinite and the offence against God is also infinite, deserving an infinite punishment.
     
  3. ZJChristianJesus26

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    Hell is a very complicated topic. Yes it's in scripture but let me explain in detail what Hell is.

    In the Old Testament (before Christ) there was a place called ''Abraham's Bosom''. In the story of the Rich Man and Lazarus in Luke 16'' you can see a great gulf between Paradise and Hades. The Rich Man went to Hades and the Poor Beggar ''Lazarus'' went to Paradise. When Christ died on the Cross, he descended into lower regions of the earth (Eph. 4:8-10) Abraham's Bosom was a waiting place for the Old Testament Saints, because their sins weren't completely washed away. There was a place of comfort which was Paradise and then there was a place of torment which was Hades. Christ took people out of the place into Heaven.

    Hell is referred to as Hades or Sheol, which is the state of the dead. Right now Hell is a waiting place until the resurrection and judgment. The spirits in Hell will be judged and thrown into the Lake of Fire with the Devil and his angels. Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
     
  4. Mark51

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    The ancient Babylonian and Assyrian have been identified mostly as the ancient peoples whose religious beliefs of a “nether world…place of horrors” gave birth to this fallacy. The ancient Egyptian added to this with a “fiery aspect.” Buddhism, in time, evolved a concept of “hot and cold hells.” More importantly, modern translators of the Bible have nurtured this doctrine by not rendering an accurate translations of the Hebrew word “Sheol” (she’ohl’) and the Greek word “Hades” (hai’des) (ancient mythological name for the god of the underworld) and “Gehenna” (ge’en na); and, within the various editions of the Bible; these same translators are not even consistent in their different applications in the various context of the scriptures. Theological doctrine such as this is one of mankind’s fictional concepts, fears, beliefs, folklore, traditions, superstitions, imaginations, and misunderstandings.

    God warned the human families’ first parents what the results for disobedience would be: death and returning to dust. (Genesis. 2:17; 3:19) Other than the conditions that imperfection brings, no other conditions were given as a warning to be imposed after death. Apostle Paul counseled that death acquits us of our sins; furthermore, he stated that the wages for sin is death-nothing else. (Romans 6:7, 23; Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10; Psalms 146:3, 4) Theological doctrine as “Hell/Hades.” is only one of Satan (Opposer) the Devil’s (Slanderer) ploys to mislead many. (Revelation 12:9) Remember that he is the “father of the lie” and the god of this system of things. (John 8:44; 12:31; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Ephesians 6:11; 1 Peter 5:8; 1 John 5:19) The correct translations are the common grave or pit. (Job 17:16; 34:15; Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 3:20; Isaiah 14:11) These are only a few scriptures comforting us of the condition of the dead.

    Christians, with accurate knowledge, understand that Jesus was in “Hades” for three days but did not suffer torment. (Acts 2:31) The reconciliation the Jesus made between mankind’s sin and his heavenly father ended when he expired on the torture stake. Certainly God would not submit his son to further torment while in the grave. Apostle John aptly identified our creator when he wrote: “God is love.” (1 John 4:8) A loving creator/father would not subject anyone to eternal pain and suffering. There are numerous scriptures that support His many characteristic of love and compassion. The accounts in the following scriptures gives reasoning to this mistranslation/belief.-Deuteronomy 12:31; 2 Kings 16:3, 17:16, 21:6; 2 Chronicles 28:3; Psalms 106:34-39; Jeremiah 7:31, 19:5, 32:35.
     
  5. Albion

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    The Bible does seem to say that there is a hell. There is some question about who goes there, what the deprivation that is inherent in the idea of hell consists of, and even whether it truly lasts forever; but its existence is hard to deny, Biblically speaking.
     
  6. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    "Many people" have no reason to believe , from what they are 'taught' growing up and all around them.
    The ideas and principles and truth in Yahweh's Word has been lost to most people,
    and they normally won't keep seeking until they find it - they stop after they find something that makes them "COMFORTABLE".... even though it may not be (and usually is not) TRUE.
     
  7. Babe Ruth

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    For whatever it's worth, I read an interesting book a while back: The Geography of Heaven. Mark Johanssen. Johanssen uses the Bible to describe & discern different locations of the afterlife. It was a concept I had never really thought about. I basically came from the thinking of a strictly binary Heaven or Hell paradigm.. He examines differences in the descriptions of Hades vs. a Lake of Fire etc..
    May be of interest to people here
     
  8. BobRyan

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    There is a hell -- real and literal John calls it "The Lake of Fire" in Rev 20 and it takes place after the judgment of Rev 20... after the millennium of Rev 20. In it will be all the wicked and all of the evil angels including Satan.
     
  9. Michael Collum

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    Dante's Inferno is fictional. Scripture is not fictional. There is a lake of fire, it is the second death illustrated in the parable of Luke 19:27. The sequence in Revelation is similar to Genesis in that there are figures of the seven days of creation throughout scripture, including the rest during the millennium, where in Genesis, there was a rebellion, a judgment, and an entering into a new world, this one. In Revelation, there is a rebellion after the day of rest, a judgment, and an entering into a new world, a world where God is the foundation for everything. Isaiah 66:15-24 indicates that God is that consuming fire that is embedded into everything in the new creation .. much like sin is in the current creation.
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    In a world where God is the foundation, sin has no place, so however you might visualize it ... it will probably look like something else anyway. However, in the end, the sinner will die, so dealing with sin now is really important.
     
  10. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Yes, "hell" (in quotes, since it's not original language), is real.
    Yahweh's Word describes something enough and fully for His children.

    Now, then, what makes it complicated (in His Word this is very very simple). ?

    Mythology.

    Mythology is many many times more prevalent than Yahweh's Word on earth.

    Mythology infiltrated greek then religious man's ways of thinking,

    and thus what man thinks of mythology became a bigger part of

    what people today even think "hell" is. It is all mixed up with what

    Yahweh Says in His Word. Most people never find out. Most people never

    even read Yahweh's Word for that matter, for any matter.

    Even the 'illustrations' used already in this thread show a failure to understand

    what a parable and other parable-like stories are as Jesus Spoke,

    mistaking His Illustrations , which He Spoke from Yahweh, for reality.
     
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