Does Israel get taken over again?

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NO one who wrote biblical scripture was in America , Australia , or Mexico ,Hawaii, Antarctica , Central America , so no it was not Daniel ;)
Daniel wasn't the ultimate author. It was the Holy Spirit. Where do you think He got the idea?
 
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I am not going to bother with it, for two reasons. one, it makes no difference, for even if what you said is mostly correct, your own allegations do not match the prophecy. And second, you would still believe what was said by the people you want to believe.
They aren't my allegations. They're the testimonies of the clear majority of historical specialists. I've done nothing more than reiterate them.

Until your evidence can outweigh their evidence, it is their evidence that prevails.
 
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Daniel wasn't the ultimate author. It was the Holy Spirit. Where do you think He got the idea?
Show me the scripture that says Greece and Rome ruling over nations that includes the names of Australia , or Mexico ,Hawaii, Antarctica , Central America, South America
You know there is none so why not just admit it :)
 
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They aren't my allegations. They're the testimonies of the clear majority of historical specialists. I've done nothing more than reiterate them.

Until your evidence can outweigh their evidence, it is their evidence that prevails.
nonsense to call the opinions of a group of histoicicists "the clear majority of historical specialists." I could, with just as much validity, list a large number of Dispensational writers stating an opinion, and call that "the clear majority of prophetic specialists."

And neither statement would have ANY probative value whatsoever.
 
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I could, with just as much validity, list a large number of Dispensational writers stating an opinion, and call that "the clear majority of prophetic specialists."

You could. But you couldn't call them the clear majority of historical specialists. Just like I couldn't (nor would ever wish to) call a large number of historicists the clear majority of "futurical" specialists.
 
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Show me the scripture that says Greece and Rome ruling over nations that includes the names of Australia , or Mexico ,Hawaii, Antarctica , Central America, South America
You know there is none so why not just admit it :)
Ask the Holy Spirit why He used the term "earth". You know He used it so why not just admit it. :)
 
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Ask the Holy Spirit why He used the term "earth". You know He used it so why not just admit it. :)
Maybe you just mistook it as all continents, logic shows that they did not have access or any narrative of any of the countries I mentioned :)
 
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Maybe you just mistook it as all continents, logic shows that they did not have access or any narrative of any of the countries I mentioned :)
If I could mistake it, then so could you. :)
 
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If I could mistake it, then so could you. :)

Other earth kingdoms in Daniel:

Daniel 4:1
Nebuchadnezzar the king, unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you.

Daniel 4:22
It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.

Daniel 6:25
Then king Darius wrote unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you.
 
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Other earth kingdoms in Daniel:

Daniel 4:1
Nebuchadnezzar the king, unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you.

Daniel 4:22
It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.

Daniel 6:25
Then king Darius wrote unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you.

This simply shows the limited application of the Hebrew word translated "earth." it simply does not mean every spot on the globe. The same is true of the Greek word translated "earth." This is clearly shown by the following scriptures:

"Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever You had formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God." Psalm 90:2

And:

"For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." Revelation 16:14
 
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This simply shows the limited application of the Hebrew word translated "earth." it simply does not mean every spot on the globe. The same is true of the Greek word translated "earth." This is clearly shown by the following scriptures:

"Before the mountains were brought forth, Or ever You had formed the earth and the world, Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God." Psalm 90:2

And:

"For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." Revelation 16:14
Agreed; that is the point I was making. An earlier post claimed that Daniel 2:39 and 7:23 did not qualify as fulfilled prophecy because the "earth" to which they referred was not the entire physical earth. Your and my citations, and your explanation, demonstrate its applicable meaning.
 
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