Does Holy Spirit Convict Sin Once Saved

[redleghunter]

It is evidence of salvation that you feel your own sinfulness with more intensity than before. Before you accepted Christ you didn't care and did not sense your own sinfulness at all. Then the Holy Spirit showed you that you needed Jesus to be your Saviour, and so you accepted Him. Then, you become very aware of your own sinfulness. This is because Jesus wants you to have more faith in Him than in yourself. Paul the apostle said, "In me dwells no good thing." He realised that his own righteousness was detestable to God and this drove him deeper into Christ so that his full faith and trust was in Christ and not in himself. It was then that he realised that there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ.

The sense of your own sinfulness is there to drive you into the arms of Christ, to come boldly to God's throne of grace to find mercy and grace to help in your time of need. It is there to humble you under the mighty hand of God. The guilt, shame and punishment of sin has been removed from you, so you don't have to be afraid of coming close to Christ and sharing your sins openly with Him. He says in 1 John 1:9 that when we talk openly about our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us and to cleans us from all unrighteousness.

You have the sentence of death in yourself so that you don't trust in yourself but in God who raises the dead. The reason why you feel your sinfulness is that you have a new heart and your spirit is alive to God, and so the flesh wars against the spirit. This is why there is a conflict in you over your sinfulness.

The above has to be the best Biblical explanation I've seen in years. God Bless!

 

[lamb7]

When the Lord first revealed Himself to me in the middle of a golf course in 1969, one of the things I did was that I talked about every sin and negative event as far back as I could remember - even right back into my childhood. At the end of two hours, I felt that I had told God everything and I felt as light as a feather, as if all the burden of those things had been lifted off me. I felt confident that in the Judgment if anyone accused me of anything, God would say, "I know all about that one, because he has already told me, and I have buried it in the deepest sea of my forgetfulness." When we tell God about our shortcomings and failures, there will be no surprises when we see Him face to face.

The story about the Pharisee and the Publican is very encouraging for those who feel the burden of their own sinfulness. Coming in humility to God and praying, "God forgive me, a sinner." is the shortcut way of getting right into His welcoming presence. Adam sinned and ran away from God because he was scared. When we accept Christ and strike out, we run to Christ because we are not afraid to accept that we are sinners needing forgiveness and cleansing, because He has taken our guilt, shame and punishment from us.

Love your story, thank you for sharing that, and I agree, He knows, no one can accuse you or has any power over you. I too love and relate to the Pharisee & the Publican, it is a good reminder to not be self-righteous.

 

[lamb7]

EXACTLY!!!! Yes, we runnnnnn to Him. And it is right in sync with this verse that comes to mind:

"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." ~James 4:7

This IS the "key", the "remedy". Running to Jesus is submitting ourselves to God and it is an actively "resisting the devil".

Reminds me of something someone said once...it was something along the lines of Jesus saying to the devil (when we runnnn to Him) that he gotta go through Jesus first. And of course, that would be the devil's worst nightmare, facing Jesus.

That's why he flees.

Yes! This! it is hard to remember when you are in a battle, you feel scattered but once you are grounded in Him, he flees.

 

[lamb7]

The above has to be the best Biblical explanation I've seen in years. God Bless!

I agree, when I read that peace overflowed within me ♥

 

[lamb7]

If deep inside you want him too, he will... He knows your will better than you do....

God Bless!

Yes this is true, I forget that He knows me better than I know myself.

 

[lamb7]

Frankly never heard of it that way. I think it is prudent to review the Holy Scriptures on the matter:

John 16: NKJV
5 “But now I go away to Him who sent Me, and none of you asks Me, ‘Where are You going?’ 6 But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.


12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you."

The Holy Spirit declares the Truth of Jesus Christ.

I think I saw it on YouTube, someone saying they are sick of people saying you have to keep repenting over and over... that you repented at salvation or something... I think it is a Hyper Grace thing? I could be wrong... have not looked into that too deeply. I was perplexed.

 

[lamb7]

Oscarr's story reminded me of how I came to faith, it was not so clear but it happened about 7-8 years before I finally Knew Christ, I always believed but it was not a personal relationship with Him.Would love to hear your coming to faith story/testimonies (I know I got off topic sorry)




Not sure what your views are on dreams(when asleep) but wanted to share.

When I was 19 I was having issues, I was dating a sex/inappropriate content addict and got drunk with him on weekends living in many sins.

I have such sympathy and compassion for people who struggle with sex addiction. I have since forgiven him for all his abuses against me.

During that time I had 2 strange dreams. One where I accidentally drove into a lake and I know I am going to die and I call my mom saying so I wake up before I die.
Then I had another dream I died again. I was outside my dorm room window. I can see across the way a beautiful out of this world landscape. I hear a authoritative voice (which I just trusted) This voice, it came from everywhere at once. I didn't know I was dead so I said let me get my things. The voice said no I can no longer access the physical world then I knew I was dead. So I come to a huge black bottomless gap, a divide between me and the other side where I see the beautiful landscape. (The only way I could get across would be a bridge but there was no bridge.)
I approach the edge of gap and to my surprise the voice says "walk" and I wad apprehensive at first but the I just trusted and walked on air as if there was a bridge over the bottomless gap to the other-side. Once I get there I am met by what looked like a man, golden hair dressed in all white robe with a golden belt seated upon a white horse.
He communicates by mind not moving his lips. He asks me to join him on his horse and we go on a journey and travel to what looks like old Israel or middle east like what you see in Bible movies, ancient culture. That is all I remember of that dream.

I didn't have a strict Christian upbringing. We didn't go to church.
When I was 19 I believed in God and Jesus but did not have a relationship with Him nor gave my life to Him. I had no knowledge of the Bible or Bible stories, angels etc.
"The Great Divide
This creates a gulf un-crossable (“unbridgeable,” to make up a word) by man because of sin, making the intended fellowship and glorification of God impossible.
The only solution is a divine bridge—that bridge is Christ."

When I came to Christ in 2013 I saw this image (see attachments) and that instantly reminded me of that dream which was at that time 7 or 8 years ago! I freaked out!

I know not to rely on feelings or experiences, as they can be wrong, but years later once I came to Christ and understood the dream this made me think this was God seeking me and trying to draw me to Him.

* I was in no way seeking a sign or a dream since I did not have the relationship with Him yet. It just happened before full conversion.

 

[redleghunter]

I think I saw it on YouTube, someone saying they are sick of people saying you have to keep repenting over and over... that you repented at salvation or something... I think it is a Hyper Grace thing? I could be wrong... have not looked into that too deeply. I was perplexed.

In my church small group adult Bible studies we get very personal about our sins. We do this so we can pray for each other. These small groups are powerful accountability sessions which continue throughout the week as we pray for each other.

 

[disciple1]

I heard somewhere, that the Holy Spirit only convicts the world of sin and that once you are saved the Holy Spirit does not convict sin anymore... Where does this come from?

I am confused on this as I feel convicted of my sins more now that I am saved and I don't think or believe my sinful flesh would ever tell me to not sin or be more holy... Thoughts? (Please keep it nice no harsh debating)

1 Peter chapter 4 verse 8
Love covers a great many sins.

Galatians chapter 5 verse 6
The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself in love.

 

[onjig]

I heard somewhere, that the Holy Spirit only convicts the world of sin and that once you are saved the Holy Spirit does not convict sin anymore... Where does this come from?

I am confused on this as I feel convicted of my sins more now that I am saved and I don't think or believe my sinful flesh would ever tell me to not sin or be more holy... Thoughts? (Please keep it nice no harsh debating)

You feel guilt-and maybe remorse? That's natural isn't it. Living a Christian live some things you've done might be heavy on you mind. But convicted,,, that's in a court of law.
If you're a Christian, enjoy it, yes feel the wrong of what you may have done in the past, but you're not living there anymore, are you.
Stop making more out of this than there is,,forget the word convicted, that is for the debating team.

onjig

 

[Rescued One]

I'm grateful for the guidance of the Holy Spirit! I used to think, "I'm more righteous than that person who claims to be a Christian." I'm so glad God dealt with me. I read my Bible more and more because I want to learn God's will for my life. No, I'm NOT better than anyone else.

 

[Rescued One]

In my church small group adult Bible studies we get very personal about our sins. We do this so we can pray for each other. These small groups are powerful accountability sessions which continue throughout the week as we pray for each other.

You can overcome sin with God's help and not reveal every single sin to a group of people. How depressing it could become listening to five or six people talking about their sins!

Philippians 4
8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

 

[dqhall]

Jesus said he could do nothing without his father (John 5:19). I have been saved from disaster numerous times. I should not be going astray, but if a take a wrong turn on the highway, I need correction. God advised me to keep trying until I learned to use my cell phone navigation assistant Siri to advise me of upcoming turns while returning from hurricane evacuation. Most of the time I do not go more than ten miles from my home.

A week ago I had a confusing dream about a lady I used to date. I prayed for another dream to clarify the situation. Last night I had a dream about her and decided to curtail communication with her as she is trying to marry someone else. I count this dream as part of my daily salvation.

I do not believe in being saved once for eternity. My walk on this earth is contingent on daily obedience. If I am going too fast on a country road and a lady pulls out of her driveway without looking, I might lose my life and my salvation, if I do not stop in time or swerve onto the grass shoulder to avoid her.

 

[RDKirk]

Jesus said he could do nothing without his father (John 5:19). I have been saved from disaster numerous times. I should not be going astray, but if a take a wrong turn on the highway, I need correction. God advised me to keep trying until I learned to use my cell phone navigation assistant Siri to advise me of upcoming turns while returning from hurricane evacuation. Most of the time I do not go more than ten miles from my home.

A week ago I had a confusing dream about a lady I used to date. I prayed for another dream to clarify the situation. Last night I had a dream about her and decided to curtail communication with her as she is trying to marry someone else. I count this dream as part of my daily salvation.

I do not believe in being saved once for eternity. My walk on this earth is contingent on daily obedience. If I am going too fast on a country road and a lady pulls out of her driveway without looking, I might lose my life and my salvation, if I do not stop in time or swerve onto the grass shoulder to avoid her.

So you're saying you believe you could lose your salvation by accident?

 

[SBC]

I heard somewhere, that the Holy Spirit only convicts the world of sin and that once you are saved the Holy Spirit does not convict sin anymore... Where does this come from?

I am confused on this as I feel convicted of my sins more now that I am saved and I don't think or believe my sinful flesh would ever tell me to not sin or be more holy... Thoughts? (Please keep it nice no harsh debating)

You sound like maybe you are a fairly new convert. Would that be accurate?

God Bless,
SBC

 

[SBC]

Jesus said he could do nothing without his father (John 5:19). I have been saved from disaster numerous times. I should not be going astray, but if a take a wrong turn on the highway, I need correction. God advised me to keep trying until I learned to use my cell phone navigation assistant Siri to advise me of upcoming turns while returning from hurricane evacuation. Most of the time I do not go more than ten miles from my home.

A week ago I had a confusing dream about a lady I used to date. I prayed for another dream to clarify the situation. Last night I had a dream about her and decided to curtail communication with her as she is trying to marry someone else. I count this dream as part of my daily salvation.

I do not believe in being saved once for eternity. My walk on this earth is contingent on daily obedience. If I am going too fast on a country road and a lady pulls out of her driveway without looking, I might lose my life and my salvation, if I do not stop in time or swerve onto the grass shoulder to avoid her.

I do not believe in being saved once for eternity.

I totally disagree with you.

God Bless,
SBC

 

[RDKirk]

I totally disagree with you.

God Bless,
SBC

I'm not convinced it's impossible to reject salvation.

But I sure don't believe it's possible to lose it accidentally.

 

[SBC]

I'm not convinced it's impossible to reject salvation.

Reject it?
Do you mean - not become saved ?
or
Become saved - then change your belief and "reject" it?

But I sure don't believe it's possible to lose it accidentally.

Ok, agree on that.

God Bless,
SBC

 

[dqhall]

So you're saying you believe you could lose your salvation by accident?

Jesus did not preach licentiousness. I do not think I have a license to do any sin I want and to be saved in spite of it.

What hope is there for one who having been forgiven turns back to his/her sin? Jesus forgave an adulteress, but told her to go and sin no more. You may say you repent a thousand times, but some sins lead to grief and loss and are not easy to repair. One who gambled away a fortune does not have as good a chance of getting it back from the lottery or casino that took it away. Someone who wrecks a ship during his watch, may not get to command a ship again. Some were court-martialed weeks before gaining full retirement benefits. One who failed to repent of smoking was diagnosed with lung cancer and only had months to live. Salvation or perdition?

 

[RDKirk]

Jesus did not preach licentiousness. I do not think I have a license to do any sin I want and to be saved in spite of it.

What hope is there for one who having been forgiven turns back to his/her sin? Jesus forgave an adulteress, but told her to go and sin no more. You may say you repent a thousand times, but some sins lead to grief and loss and are not easy to repair. One who gambled away a fortune does not have as good a chance of getting it back from the lottery or casino that took it away. Someone who wrecks a ship during his watch, may not get to command a ship again. Some were court-martialed weeks before gaining full retirement benefits. One who failed to repent of smoking was diagnosed with lung cancer and only had months to live. Salvation or perdition?

None of those material consequences = loss of salvation.