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Does God work His plan through non-believers as well

Discussion in 'Baptists' started by daveleau, Dec 26, 2004.

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  1. daveleau

    daveleau In all you do, do it for Christ and w/ Him in mind

    To what extent do you believe that God works through non-believers to fulfill His plan for the world?

    God bless,
  2. rural_preacher

    rural_preacher Well-Known Member

    I believe God's plan is absolutely comprehensive. No one is outside of His sovereign reign whether they know it or not...whether they admit it or not...whether they submit to it or not.

    God sets up and uses the government for His purpose...even evil governments. Romans 13 tells us to be submissive and obedient to the gov't. This was said during the time of the pagan Roman gov't.

    In the OT, God used wicked, pagan nations to bring judgment on Israel by invading them and taking them captive. Those pagan people did not know they were being used by God, they thought they were acting on their own desires and impulses.

    I believe that is just as true today. All of us, believers and unbelievers, go about living our lives according to our own decisions and desires, but God is in control of the Plan and Purpose. He will accomplish His sovereign will through it all whether we bow down or not.

    Also, read Psalm 139. This is an excellent Psalm regarding the absolute Sovereignty of our Great and Wonderful God!

    I am not saying that God causes all, I am saying He uses all in the accomplishment of His plan. God is not the author of evil; therefore, we cannot assign causation to Him in regard to sin. But He allows such and uses it to work all things together according to His Plan.

    This is true in a very specific way for believers as seen in Romans 8:28...

    For His children all things work together for good (not all things are good, but all things work together for good). That's not true for the unbeliever...all things will work together, but not for their good (Prov. 16:4). But all things will always work together for His glory in the end.

  3. eldermike

    eldermike Pray Supporter

    Great question! God can use even a donkey as a witness.
    Zec 9:9
    Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

    Mt 21:2 Saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an ass tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me.
    Mt 21:3
    And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them.

    Any man is clear to me. God will make the lost give up the donkey, just as He will make the saved.
  4. staugustine68

    staugustine68 Greyhounds as pets

    God has a plan for everyone he has created. Everything happens for a reason.
    My purpose in life is to worship(anything you do to please God), It is a rehersal for what we do when we get to Heaven (That's all we will be doing).
  5. Gwenyfur

    Gwenyfur Legend

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    Everywhere throughout the Bible we see example after example of the Lord using non believing nations, governments and people to His purpose. So, yes I believe He does use even the lost and ungodly for His purpose.

    IE: Isreal's slavery in Egypt, banishement in Babylon, the ammonites etc.

    Hope this answers...
  6. C.I. Scofield

    C.I. Scofield Member

    Sure he does! Everytime I do something that isn't "Christ-like" My Dad likes to remind me that I am a Christian. ^_^ :D :) :p
  7. CFoster

    CFoster Member

    You must spread some reputation around before giving it to rural preacher again!
  8. BBAS 64

    BBAS 64 Contributor Supporter

    Good Day, Daveleau

    Yes, God uses all of his creation to bring his plan and purposes to pass.

    Peace to u,

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