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Does God Love Everybody?

Discussion in 'Christianity and World Religion' started by franklin, Aug 5, 2002.

  1. franklin

    franklin Sexed up atheism = Pantheism

    It has been customary to say God loves the sinner though He hates his sin, but that is a meaningless distinction. What is there in a sinner but sin? If it be true that God loves every member of the human family then why did our Lord tell His disciples "He that hath My commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth Me: and he that loveth Me shall be loved of My Father... If a man love Me, he will keep My words: and My Father will love him" (John 14:21, 23)? Why say, "he that loveth Me shall be loved of My Father",  if the Father loves everybody? Are everyones sins forgiven? When we tell the Christ-rejecter that God loves him aren't we affording him a sence of security in his sins? 
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  2. seebs

    seebs God Made Me A Skeptic

    To claim that He doesn't love anyone produces worse apparent contradictions. To love someone, and to be able to stand them, are not always the same thing.
  3. Job_38

    Job_38 <font size="1"> In perfect orbit they have circled



    &nbsp;&nbsp; In saying that, you are limiting what God can do. Because He can do what he will.


    &nbsp;(Sorry about the flame, wasn't thinking)
  4. LouisBooth

    LouisBooth Well-Known Member

    *mod hat on*

    Job-38 that comment is not acceptable per the forum rules. Do not flame other posters. If you wish to address the truth of the comment, do so, but do NOT break rules doing it.

    *mod hat off*
  5. franklin

    franklin Sexed up atheism = Pantheism

    Booth, You &amp; I don't always agree but I just want to thank you for that! :)&nbsp;&nbsp; I just thought the questions in my post would motivate some good answers and discussion... thanks again brother.....
  6. LouisBooth

    LouisBooth Well-Known Member

    Just doing my job :)
  7. Warrior4Jah

    Warrior4Jah Conservative on a mission

    God loves anyone and anybody. He loves His children with all His heart. God loves the sinner, he loves them all. Would you not die for YOUR children because you loved them? Through Christ God did this very thing, He sacrificed His only begotten Son, therefore sacrificing His very self. If Jah did not love everyone, including the sinner, then why would He die for them?
  8. franklin

    franklin Sexed up atheism = Pantheism

    ....because the Lord disciplines those he loves,... (Heb12:6) hello warrior, does God discipline the lost?&nbsp; Maybe this will get you to&nbsp;think..... The scripture is clear that those who continue to reject God's gift (his Son) the wrath of God remains on them!&nbsp; "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him."&nbsp;(Jn3:36)


    Bingo! absolutely!&nbsp; that contradicts your first quote!&nbsp; Are the lost God's children?&nbsp; &nbsp;

    Yes, for my children, in my family, yes, I would do everything for them including laying down my life for them because they are my family!&nbsp;

    Your on the right track in the first part of your quote about God sending His Son to die for us, when I say US, I'm referring to those who have accepted God's gift, His Son, not those who reject Him... God sacrificed His Son, God didn't sacrifice himself.&nbsp; To answer your question, I'll let the scripture do that for me: "He that hath My commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth Me: and he that loveth Me shall be loved of My Father... If a man love Me, he will keep My words: and My Father will love him" (John 14:21, 23
  9. Chris†opher Paul

    Chris†opher Paul Based on a True Story


    Ok, I could possibly see where you think Jesus isn't God. But now with this post, I am totally confused as to where you are coming from...what is your denomination? Franklinism? :)
  10. goodnewsinc

    goodnewsinc Senior Member Supporter

    Yes! God LOVES Everybody

    Franklin: It has been customary to say God loves the sinner though He hates his sin, but that is a meaningless distinction.

    "Meaningless distinction" is your human conclusion. Your thoughts are not God's thoughts and your ways are not his ways. Here are Father's own Words from His own mouth about his Love which He knows and you do not know!

    Jeremiah 31:3 The Lord hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.

    John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

    John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

    Isaiah 57:16 For I will not contend for ever, neither will I be always wroth: for the spirit should fail before me, and the souls which I have made. 17 For the iniquity of his covetousness was I wroth, and smote him: I hid me, and was wroth, and he went on frowardly in the way of his heart. 18 I have seen his ways, and will heal him: I will lead him also, and restore comforts unto him and to his mourners. 19 I create the fruit of the lips; Peace, peace to him that is far off, and to him that is near, saith the Lord; and I will heal him.

    Mal 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. 17 And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

    Romans 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, 21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

    Sin shall not separate us from the love of God! Unbelief and non-belief cannot separate us from the love of God! Possession by devils cannot separate us from the love of God! Human thought and narrowminded conclusions (as in your post) cannot separate us from the love of God. In fact nothing can separate us from the love of God! The fact is God's LOVE is an everlasting LOVE and He "changes not". "Sinners" shall be spared as if the were sons who serve Him all the time. They shall be His when He makes up His jewels. Father will not contend forever over man's ignorance and miscues because all souls would fail before Him. Instead He has ordained peace for all by the sacrifice of one to SAVE ALL, Romans 5:18. The creation was made subject to vanity by the Creator Himself and He shall deliver them all into the glorious liberty of the children of God!

    Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: 28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

    Matthew 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

    Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

    Since TRUTH is every Word that proceeds out of the mouth of God not "your thoughts", what shall we think? We have your conclusions and Father's own Words where He Himself addresses us in the first person, Words from His own mouth. Let all readers choose whom they should believe. And Franklin, perhaps you need to rethink your conclusion because you used tunnel vision and focused very narrowly on the few texts you used while not using WIDE VISION to incorporate the scriptures you missed into your conclusion. NEVER, NEVER get to close to one or two trees (texts) so that you miss seeing the huge forest (the whole body of scriptures). Then you will not come to narrow conclusions that are incorrect!

    1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

    Romans 8: 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

    2 Corinthians 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

    Hey, Franklin! Can you keep this command from your father?

    Isaiah 40:1 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God. 2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the Lord's hand double for all her sins.

    That may be a tough proposition for YOU, if you do not believe Father's direct testimony of His kind of love from His own mouth!

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  11. franklin

    franklin Sexed up atheism = Pantheism

    Hi goodnews, I appreciate your comments and scripture references and I would have to say that everything you have quoted scripturally does not contradict any of the scriptures that I have posted.&nbsp;Scripture does not contradict itself.&nbsp;Most of the scriptures you are referring are speaking of those whom God loves and those who love God in return.&nbsp; That is just my point that I was trying to bring out in my initial post that started this thread.&nbsp; In Romans, who is Paul coveying the message to?&nbsp; Those who love God!&nbsp; Yes, we were once sinners and God's wrath remained on us until we accepted His gift, Christ Jesus into our lives.&nbsp; 1 Timothy 4:10, "For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe."This brings me back to my original question: When we tell the Christ-rejecter that God loves him&nbsp;or that God loves everyone no matter what,&nbsp;aren't we affording him a sence of security in his sins?&nbsp;Again, thanks for your comments.....

  12. Job_38

    Job_38 <font size="1"> In perfect orbit they have circled

    I don't know if God loves everybody. There are many parts in scripture that seem strange, yet until you put them together. My belief is that God loves and hates who he chooses, such as in Romans(forgot where) "And Jacob I loved, Esauh(spelling error) I hated.
  13. Judy B.

    Judy B. Member

    I truly believe He does love All of us! He may not like the sins of people, but We are His creation and I don't believe He would despise His handiwork. God loves the sinner and hates the sin!
  14. wannabe

    wannabe Member

    We are NOT God's creation. Let me repeat my self... We are NOT Gods Creation, Why? because of the "translaters" and transliteraters" you cannot see without the proper research "God" is just a translieration!
    Of what? You mean to tell me wannabe we are "worshiping a "transliteration? YES! God is Gad is Gud is Gawd, PERIOD. There is no distinction in meanings! To say 'God' created us is to say "Gad" created us.

    Gad was a very popular Deity that was being worshiped by A postate Jews and spread world wide. This deity involved FORTUNE...MONEY...WELL BEING...PROSPERITY. And my I ask everyone, to this day what has a "hold" on people the most? MONEY!

    "In GOD we trust" is "In Gad we Trust"

    The one that DID create us and EVERYTHING that people CHOOSE to ignore is the name that was written in stone... YAHWEH

    carefully read Isaiah 65:11 about the worship of "'Gad" in the
    -New Jerusalem Bible.

    If you read Malachi 1:6-9 You will see what YAHWEH has to say about the people and calling on GOD!

    You need to read from at least the bible that puts YAHWEH's name back where His name belongs and NOT with "the LORD" because that will just confuse you more.
  15. franklin

    franklin Sexed up atheism = Pantheism

    Wannabe,&nbsp; I'd appreciate it if you would stay within the subject of this thread!&nbsp; I don't see where anything you quoted has anything to do with&nbsp;the topic in&nbsp;this thread.&nbsp; If you would like to start a discussion regarding the message you are trying to convey, may I suggest that you start up your own thread in another forum.

    .... thank you...
  16. wannabe

    wannabe Member

    I do beleive, Franklin, GOD(GAD) is the "topic" of this thread and that is exactly what I was addressing.
  17. goodnewsinc

    goodnewsinc Senior Member Supporter

    Hi, Franklin!

    "Saviour of all men" .... especially those that believe shows you two groups that are saved:

    (1) a huge group of non-believers and and unbelievers and

    (2) a smaller group of believers.

    To get to ALL you must add the total numbers of both groups. Jesus came to save the ignorant, blind and deaf captives ensnared by Satan at his own will. Attempting to limit salvation and God's love only to "believers" just will not cut it! In due time every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess God our Father. "Faith is a gift" and and being born in a nation where Christianity exists is also according to the discretion of the Creator. Without God no man can think or breathe. Consider Jeremiah 18:1-6, since you seem to want to dismiss non-believers and sinners. When Father is ready, I say He will FIX all our hearts. In your thinking and reasoning DO FIND A PLACE FOR THESE:

    Isaiah 28:17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place. 18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

    Jeremiah 31:31. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32. Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: 33. But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

    Ezekiel 20:32 And that which cometh into your mind shall not be at all, that ye say, We will be as the heathen, as the families of the countries, to serve wood and stone. 33 As I live, saith the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you: 34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out. 35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face. 36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God. 37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:

    Ezekiel 36:25. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

    The onus is not on man to somehow gain faith by osmosis on his own and by his personal will so that he can qualify for salvation as you and the "know in part disciples" attempted to allude. No man is personally in charge of His own destiny. To think so disregards the PLANS of the Creator and HIS WILL! All clay vessels are made according to the discretion on the Creator-Claymaster. "We all were made subject to vanity not willingly but by God who subjected all" according to His will! All shall be delivered into the glorious liberty of the children of God. It does not matter if you do not have "faith" in this life! This is what FATHER WILL DO. All block heads with stoney hearts will be transformed. Faithless men will be given a new hearts and a new mind by the Creator. He will write the truth in their minds, and all will know Him from the least to the greatest. He will DO THIS when He is ready. Paul showed you in Romans 9, "it is not of him that willeth or him that runneth, but God who shows mercy". I suggest that you forget about your attempt to downgrade faithless men and unbelievers. Their day will come! All prodigal sons have a "come uppance" on the agenda! Eventually everything that has breath will praise the Lord!

    Psalm 150:6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the Lord. Praise ye the Lord.

    Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

    Revelation 13:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in thesea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

    Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

    According to your theory this is impossible. Whom shall we believe, YOU or God? What do you say?

    Forget YOUR rationalization! It does not square with what God will do. No one needs to fear telling "the whole truth and nothing but the truth". "Comfort ye my people" means to comfort saint and sinner (prodigal) alike. It does not matter to God whether the message gives the sinner comfort in sin as YOU PUT IT or not. Changing hearts is the Father's job and He will do so when He is ready, not when we think it should be done!

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  18. franklin

    franklin Sexed up atheism = Pantheism

    Wannabe, I know the discussion is about God, just like every other subject in this forum relates to God and other spiritual matters, however, the specific subject that is being discussed in this thread has nothing to do with what you are trying to convey and I think all the other participants within this discussion would also appreciate it if you would stay within the boundaries of this thread.&nbsp; If you have something to contribute that is related to the title:&nbsp;"Does God Love Everybody",&nbsp;as the others have demonstrated, then we all welcome your thoughts.&nbsp; All this is in an expression of brotherly love for you and my other fellow brothers in Christ also.

    May God bless you,

  19. Simonline

    Simonline The Inquisitor

    Franklin, have a read of this:

    The Law of Love

    When different religions all claim to be the one and only true religion, it is necessary that there be some test of Divine truth to which the claims of each must be submitted, that the one true religion may be distinguished from the false. It is self evident that only God himself can supply this test, for all true knowledge of God relies upon His self-revelation. Since God’s glory in man and man’s spiritual well-being alike depend on his possessing a true knowledge of God, it is certain that God has provided that Self-revelation, being in accordance with which is the test of true religion.

    The test of true religion

    The crucial test of true religion is the Law of God which says: “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself” (Deut.6:5; 10:12; 11:1,13,22; 13:3; 30:16,20; Lev.19:18; Deut.10:19).

    God has made perfect obedience to this Law of Love the condition of receiving eternal life: “Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgements: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the Lord” (Lev.18:5).

    Moreover, God has pronounced His curse on all who transgress this Law. This is necessary in order to reveal His infinite righteousness and implacable hostility to the rebellion of disobedience. “Cursed is he who does not conform to the words of this Law by doing them” (Deut.27:26).

    Since it is impossible for sinners to obtain or even help to obtain Eternal Life by their own merits, or to deliver themselves from condemnation, they are wholly dependent for salvation upon God meeting the twofold demands of His Law, both precept and penalty, on their behalf.

    The Law of Love reveals that God is Love

    Just as human laws are the irrefutable evidence of both the existence and character of human law-givers, so the Law of Love is the irrefutable evidence of both the existence and character of God. Only a God who is Love by Nature could require everyone to love Him and also all their fellow men. Because it is the nature of Love to meet the need of loved ones to the utmost of it's ability, regardless of cost, this law of Love infallibly assured God would meet man’s need as a sinner. It is impossible that God should command that everyone love Him unless He Himself loved everyone, and impossible that He should love everyone and not provide salvation for everyone. Thus the Law of Love was itself a prophesy of the Gospel, of God’s redemption for the human race. The one and only true religion will be that which reveals and proclaims that God has provided full redemption for sinners, all of grace, for all of them.

    It is impossible that God should not love everyone when only love in Him could have created the capacity to love everyone, and equally impossible that having created everyone in His image and after His likeness, with the capacity to know and love Him, He should not desire to be the supreme object of their love. He has created all things for His glory (Rev.4:11), and man’s loving Him secures Him greater glory than man’s not loving Him. If God intended some not to love Him, their not loving Him could not be sin. But since “all have sinned and come short of the glory of God” (Rom.3:23) and “sin is the transgression of the law” (1Jn.3:4), and because “sin is not imputed where there is no law” (Rom.5:13), there are none who are not included in the Law of Love.

    Since no one can therefore deny that God has commanded every one without exception to love Him, to deny, as A.W. Pink does, that God loves everyone, is grossly to libel the character of God. The theory that Christ only died to save the elect presents to us a God who:

    1. Commands everyone to love Him when He Himself does not love everyone.
    2. Who will condemn the non-elect in the Judgement Day – not for the rejection of Christ since He did not die to save them, but for transgressing the Law which commands them to Love Him when He never intended that they should love Him – as His excluding them from all hope of salvation only too clearly proves, and when the Scriptures show condemnation will only be for the rejection of Christ (Jn.3:14-19,36; 8:24; 2Thes.2:11,12);
    3. Who commands all to repent and believe the Gospel when for the non-elect there is no Gospel to believe (Mk.1:15; 1Jn.3:24; Acts.17:31; Mk.16:16);
    4. Who says “blessed are the merciful” when He is unmerciful to the non-elect in excluding them from salvation (the vast majority of mankind);
    5. Who invites everyone to receive His salvation (Dr. John Owen and Dr. J.I.Packer being witnesses) which He has intended not all should accept.
    6. Who by-passes Calvary in writing the names of the non-elect into the Lamb’s Book of Life only to blot them out again (Rev.3:5; 22:19);
    7. Who has two callings of sinners to repentance and faith, the one limited to the elect, for which reason it is termed “effectual”; the other being the “ineffectual calling” because it is not intended to be effective. Since this work is through the Holy Spirit He has been appointed to a work rendered ineffectual by Divine decree – a God who ordains His own ineffectiveness?! But the theory that all people, including the elect, are spiritually dead in their trespasses and sins in the sense that a corps is dead means it is as vain to call them as the non-elect. The theory that God implants saving faith and repentance to life in the elect as the only means of their salvation makes “effectual” calling impossible before they receive these gifts, and unnecessary after receiving them.
    8. Who calls people “fools” for only being concerned with the material interests of life, taking no interest in their spiritual and eternal welfare, when He Himself has taken no interest in their spiritual welfare as non-elect (Lk.12:16-21).

    Quoted from “Christ or Mohammed – The Bible or the Koran?” by F.S.Copleston. Published by Islam’s Challenge 1989.

    Food for thought?

  20. wannabe

    wannabe Member

    Let me remind you goodnewsinc, where you see "GOD" in those passages was put there in GREAT ERROR by the "translators" and YAHWEH's name is what belongs!

    Yashaiyah 65:11,12 (wrongly Isaiah) "But as for those of you who abandon YAHWEH, who forget my holy mountain, who lay the table for Gad (God), who fill cups of mixed wine for meni (god of fate), YOU I SHALL DESTINE TO THE SWORD AND ALL OF YOU WILL STOOP TO BE SLAUGHTERED, because I called and you would not answer, I spoke and you would not listen, you have done what I consider evil, you chose to do what displeases me.

    Why do you think YAHWEH is making this powerful statement?

    Malakyah 1:6-9 (wrongly Malachi) The son honours his father, the slave stands in awe of his master . But if I am indeed Father, where is the honour due to me? And if I am indeed master, where is the awe due to me? says YAHWEH Sabaoth to you priests WHO DESPISED MY NAME!.....
    9, In that case, TRY PLEADING WITH GOD to take pity on us (that is what you have done), AND WILL HE TAKE ANY NOTICE? says YAHWEH Sabaoth.

    Almost the whole world pleads with "God"
    What does YAHWEH think about "God" Gad" is quite simple and in the end when YAHWEH states "the great whore with blasphemous titles "
    and "a few men left" we might be around to see what he is reffering to.

    Goodnewsinc, from what you have written it sounds as if you are the unbeliever.

    And if you use "LORD" in place of YAHWEH's name, you are BLASPHEMING His name with a BLASPHEMOUS title.

    "Lord" is used for many deities including Satan.
    "Lord" came from the Old English "Hlaford" meaning: Keeper of the loaf, as in head of a feudal estate, OWNER OF SLAVES!

    which makes this title more appropriate for satan, because satan wants humans to be his "slaves" and wants"worship" from humans, meaning to bow down, kiss the ground, or "ones foot on another's neck!!

    The proper Hebrew word our Creator gave us was "cherish". Our Father wants us to to "love" and "cherish" Him, NOT TO WORSHIP HIM!